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I wouldn't know about a specific poster's history. I honestly try not to pay attention to who is posting what. I try to judge each post on it's own merits so I probably miss that kind of stuff.
As far as tin foil hat, it's logical that someone would not want to have bad information about them out there. If I had that kind of power, I'd probably be a maniac. hahahahaha
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well bro-tato...it's not "whining" when it's true. The moto-media is a joke and when they are no longer a joke, I'll compliment them (as I have done a multitude of times on a variety of their posted articles on this very site). But this very topic is yet another example of a giant story sitting right in front of the bro-media that they're not going to touch because, well, DC.
It is pure laziness and ignorant. Just asking for trouble
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Lol What is the "giant story sitting right in front of the bro-media"? These topics are 15 years old and have have been covered and discussed over and over again. Here's a 14 year old article from MXA for starters if you want to get yourself caught up: https://motocrossactionmag.com/deciphering-the-glen-helen-national-controversy/
You whine about shit that has been discussed by the media already but because they didn't dumb it down enough for you to understand you don't like it. Like when you cried like a bitch that ML didn't reach out to Rich Taylor about the track suing thing....in the fucking thread that had a quote that ML got from Rich Taylor.....it was literally right in front of your face but you were too fucking stupid to realize so you kept whining like a bitch.
There isn't a National at Glen Helen because the folks who run Glen Helen refuse to play by the stipulations that the other National tracks do and they want to be able to have their own VIP areas, sponsors, vendors etc.
That has been talked about many, many times in the moto media that you get a boner by bashing.
Does it make sense now? Need me to draw you a picture?
To roostbuckets reply and DC's excuse that it is too hot to hold races in the southeast, many pro mx riders live and train year round in the southeast, many if not most mx training facilities are in the southeast used year round. The top attended amusements parks in the USA are all in the southeast, many of their busiest days are in the summer. NASCAR events in the southeast are well attended as well as many other pro sports, such as baseball, held in the summer in the southeast. The argument holds no water.
I'm sure it's just a giant conspiracy and the truth is that DC just wants to fuck over the Southeast.
Soooo… if the “too hot” argument were being made for the benefit of the athletes, you’re right. Many of them live and train there. But I think the concern is about ticket sales. Sure, you listed some other sports and amusement parks that are successful despite the conditions, but none of those facilities are as ill-prepared to protect the audiences from the heat as 99% of motocross tracks are.
Speaking as an old dude who has raced and spectated at many races and now won’t drive 2 hours to bake in the sun at Budds Creek, I get it. But I see your point. Their argument might be better if Southern track owners were actually on the record saying they don’t want run any summer nationals.
Because I always look at both sides, I'm somewhat with him on the heat being an issue. Being a member of a thriving off road organization in Florida I know a lot of guys didn't want to go to WW Ranch because of the heat. I camped there and my one air conditioner on my 30 foot camper could not keep it comfortable, and I burned out a Predator 3500 generator. I had to go buy another generator or my dog would have died. The heat in Florida in the summer is no joke.
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Sounds like an admission that the Orphan National wasn't such a bad idea after all.
I tend to think it would be more about ticket sales in the SE in summer since we've all seen stupid high temps at CA Nationals over the years. So, heat being the common denominator at both locations, why would they have a CA heavy schedule versus a non-existent SE one?
I seem to remember the owner at Muddy Creek wasn't going to renew his contract because he said he wasn't making money under the contract terms. He eventually did but we see that didn't last too long.
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everytime you comment on something I post, I picture you red-faced, about to have a fucking heart attack, and drooling while hammering at your keyboard. Go outside, friend. There's much to be seen. It's ok if we don't see eye to eye on this or anything really - but you're going to hurt yourself w/ the raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage. Lastly, if the topic is "dead" because it's been thoroughly researched and reported on by the bro-media, why are we in a thread discussing the topic? Why is Glen Helen asking to "tell their side of the story" to the media? I'll wait.
Well, you're wrong. I'm actually laughing at you and how pathetic you look every time you bring up the same fucking thing to try to look cool.
Wouldn't it be more fun to make up another bullshit story about some slut your fucking taking you on work trips? We all had fun with that until it became blatantly obvious you were just making shit up to try to be cool.....
thank you for proving me right........again. This is my calm response to your RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE. See the difference? Have a kick ass weekend.
Hmmmm.....this tells a similar but even worse story than DC's take and the one constant is Bud. Seems like Red Bud, Millville, Buds and all the other tracks (including those not on the schedule anymore) would have problems with DC and MX Sports, but they don't. I haven't heard Mitch or Troy Lee say anything different and they were in the meeting to reconcile.......so there you go.
Whatever you need to tell yourself to feel better bud....
Catch ya next week when your back again whining like a fucking bitch about the moto media.
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I understand all that, but many riders do live and train in Florida. People do not stop attending outdoor activities in Florida, Disney World is full of people in July, the Marlins and the Rangers still get fans attending. And, this is important, there are many areas in the southeast or even Texas that do not have extremes of weather worse than Pala or even High Point, especially inland or in the mountain areas. The weather is a bullshit excuse.
The weather is a conspiracy theory man. DC hates the Southeast and everyone that lives there and does everything in his power to fuck them over.
It basically represents the problems of many people in society. Some people don't feel satisfied with themselves unless they're imposing their shit onto others, and some people can't handle any degree of being imposed upon by others. This is what you get when they cross paths.
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If Cookesy is on GH side of the argument then there goes any credibility GH had.
Yeah and they're done riding and training by 1pm because of the heat and the afternoon thunderstorms...I can guarantee you that nobody is riding in the late afternoon during the hottest parts of the day...when the actual races would be going on, they are home in their pools or in the comfort of their air conditioned homes....
But yet here you are in another thread regurgitating the exact same argument again...it's literally the only thing you post about so I can only imagine that there is a dead horse in your backyard that has been beaten to death....over and over....
I get a lot of you guys don't like him, can't say I'm a fan either. The problem is the guy has been right whether you like it or not. He simply lays out what Glenn Helen has put out on there site I believe. I knew I could get some of you riled up over it.
Regarding the heat argument - I raced Budds in '95 ( the year Doug fell out of the sky) and it was so hot I thought I was in the Southeast. Mid 90s and high humidity... felt like we were in the Phillipines.
I been to enough races there over the years that they run together, so without me looking at the results in the Vault, maybe someone can tell me what year it was that Doug was leading the 125s and then started wandering from side to side on the track at the end of the race. They had to pull him off the bike, strip his gear and soak him down to cool him off - the heat had gotten him.
So yeah, apparently it's an exclusively SE thing in the summer.
We also had a guy die at Red Bud from heat exhaustion so it’s no joke, it can get really hot anywhere in the summer but it’s never a guarantee…unless you’re in GA, FL or TX…in the summer you know you’re going to have dangerous high temps and humidity…the risk is higher there.
Yeah he’s totally unbiased and never takes shots at DC and MXSports because of his personal issues with them…
Throw SC in that mix, too. Insane heat and humidity... along with the usual SE insects that won't let you breathe when you're soaked in sweat.
And you're right, it's no joke and nothing to be trifled with, especially the older you get. It gets you like a frog in the pot and then it's too late.
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