More USGP rule bending.

jbomx363
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Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 5:53am
No other GP tracks are permanent?

Still awaiting what the verdict is going to be for sound levels.

Seems unfair to bend the rules for one GP and not the others. Then again, I don't really follow the GP circuit too much and they may make allowances for other venues.

From MXA:

Under FIM rules, Grand Prix riders cannot ride at a GP track at any time for 30 days before the GP. Glen Helen applied for a waiver to this rule because Glen Helen is the track that American teams rent for testing and GH holds open practice sessions on. The FIM agreed that since Glen Helen was a permanent facility that was used virtually every day by factories, local riders and racers, that the 30-day rule would not apply. Glen Helen is a busy place, this past weekend they held Saturday's REM race, an open practice (on the front track) and an offroad truck race...then, on Sunday, they hosted a Vintage race (on the REM track) and a round of the Yamaha Dealer series on the front track. Thanks to the FIM waiver Pro riders, who plan to race the GP can still ride and race at Glen Helen...which is holding a $26,000 Pro Race on May 16. Glen Helen has many different tracks. There is the USGP course, REM track, Endurocross track, minicycle track, truck course, Pro Circuit's Supercross track and the SRA cross-country course).
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500guy
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What ever it takes for Luongo and Bud Feldcamp to Screw the AMA and MXsports will be done.
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500guy wrote:
What ever it takes for Luongo and Bud Feldcamp to Screw the AMA and MXsports will be done.
Piss off and get a life 500Gay.
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Who cares... Lets go racing Ladies!
Mxxer
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No practising on a GP track for 30 days before a race. That rule has been in effect for decades I believe.

It didn't stop them letting Herlings out to practice at Valkenswaard last week though.

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This type of rule might have saved Mike Alessi's outdoor season last year.
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4/26/2010 2:32pm
500guy wrote:
What ever it takes for Luongo and Bud Feldcamp to Screw the AMA and MXsports will be done.
PaleBlue wrote:
Piss off and get a life 500Gay.
ya know...... making fun of someones screen name can only mean 2 things..

1. you just found the internet yesterday.....
2. you are 13 years old......

i'm guessing you qualify for both.....
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500guy wrote:
What ever it takes for Luongo and Bud Feldcamp to Screw the AMA and MXsports will be done.
PaleBlue wrote:
Piss off and get a life 500Gay.
LMAO

Paleblue calling someone Gay ? what a poofter
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Mxxer wrote:
No practising on a GP track for 30 days before a race. That rule has been in effect for decades I believe. It didn't stop them...
No practising on a GP track for 30 days before a race. That rule has been in effect for decades I believe.

It didn't stop them letting Herlings out to practice at Valkenswaard last week though.
Prove it!

4/27/2010 4:13am
What drama about a rule that has never been enforced.

In Lommel which is 2 miles from most of the factory race shops, you can ride until 10 days ahead of the GP, when they start re-doing the track.
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500guy wrote:
What ever it takes for Luongo and Bud Feldcamp to Screw the AMA and MXsports will be done.
PaleBlue wrote:
Piss off and get a life 500Gay.
500guy wrote:
LMAO

Paleblue calling someone Gay ? what a poofter
Laughed your arse off ??? I've seen your pic's - that must have been a considerable laugh......

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Mxxer wrote:
No practising on a GP track for 30 days before a race. That rule has been in effect for decades I believe. It didn't stop them...
No practising on a GP track for 30 days before a race. That rule has been in effect for decades I believe.

It didn't stop them letting Herlings out to practice at Valkenswaard last week though.
robkinuk wrote:
Prove it!

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they had open practice at vallkenswaard less than a month before the race....many gp riders were there
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4/27/2010 6:14am
It just shows that whatever the series they are in, Glen Helen doesn't really want to follow the rules or specs. They want the advantages of being in a series but want to do things their own way.
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Rabbit wrote:
This type of rule might have saved Mike Alessi's outdoor season last year.
but it would have ruined his other seasons
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4/27/2010 6:39am
Shenzi wrote:
It just shows that whatever the series they are in, Glen Helen doesn't really want to follow the rules or specs. They want the advantages of...
It just shows that whatever the series they are in, Glen Helen doesn't really want to follow the rules or specs. They want the advantages of being in a series but want to do things their own way.
Shhhhhh.....
jbomx363
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brakkeman_ wrote:
What drama about a rule that has never been enforced. In Lommel which is 2 miles from most of the factory race shops, you can ride...
What drama about a rule that has never been enforced.

In Lommel which is 2 miles from most of the factory race shops, you can ride until 10 days ahead of the GP, when they start re-doing the track.
Which is why I said I didn't follow the GP's close enough if they did this at other venues.

Which leads me to another question. Why even have the rule if you're not going to enforce it? Take it off the books or amend it to what you will enforce and what is fair for all.

Sound levels? Eh... lets accommodate whatever the venue wants or will they actually enforce it?

Why bend ANY rules to accommodate any venue?

Integrity? Seems to be "for sale".
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4/27/2010 7:07am
jbomx363 wrote:
Which is why I said I didn't follow the GP's close enough if they did this at other venues. Which leads me to another question. Why...
Which is why I said I didn't follow the GP's close enough if they did this at other venues.

Which leads me to another question. Why even have the rule if you're not going to enforce it? Take it off the books or amend it to what you will enforce and what is fair for all.

Sound levels? Eh... lets accommodate whatever the venue wants or will they actually enforce it?

Why bend ANY rules to accommodate any venue?

Integrity? Seems to be "for sale".
When you can buy a place on the start line of a world championship event, with no need to qualify in any other way, integrity has already been sold.
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4/27/2010 7:08am
Shenzi wrote:
It just shows that whatever the series they are in, Glen Helen doesn't really want to follow the rules or specs. They want the advantages of...
It just shows that whatever the series they are in, Glen Helen doesn't really want to follow the rules or specs. They want the advantages of being in a series but want to do things their own way.
Seems that way. Having a fan-favorite track in the sport's most important local market buys you some influence. Obviously Youthstream feels its in their best interest to play ball.
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500guy wrote:
What ever it takes for Luongo and Bud Feldcamp to Screw the AMA and MXsports will be done.
Ha! Little fragile AMA and MXsports really needs your full support Jay. Keep the back paddling going!!!
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4/27/2010 7:52am
jbomx363 wrote:
Which is why I said I didn't follow the GP's close enough if they did this at other venues. Which leads me to another question. Why...
Which is why I said I didn't follow the GP's close enough if they did this at other venues.

Which leads me to another question. Why even have the rule if you're not going to enforce it? Take it off the books or amend it to what you will enforce and what is fair for all.

Sound levels? Eh... lets accommodate whatever the venue wants or will they actually enforce it?

Why bend ANY rules to accommodate any venue?

Integrity? Seems to be "for sale".
I agree with this:

"Why even have the rule if you're not going to enforce it? Take it off the books or amend it to what you will enforce and what is fair for all. "

It's just not a good rule, as the duration is too long. Maybe 10 days but that's it.

Everyone has enjoyed the advantage of racing at their "home track" and it goes on "over there" just as much as here in my opinion...
500guy
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4/27/2010 8:02am
500guy wrote:
What ever it takes for Luongo and Bud Feldcamp to Screw the AMA and MXsports will be done.
DrSweden wrote:
Ha! Little fragile AMA and MXsports really needs your full support Jay. Keep the back paddling going!!!
How am I back peddling ? I have never been for Youthstream.

The fact remains neither Glen Helen or Youthstream care about the rules.
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4/27/2010 8:33am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2010 8:36am
500guy wrote:
What ever it takes for Luongo and Bud Feldcamp to Screw the AMA and MXsports will be done.
Like I said yesterday I see this whole thing as a win win.......USGP in May.....last National in CA which the factories want as per DC.



So in your world you'd be happy if GH had made improvements for a one year contract with no guarantee of future events, right? Where does it say that once you have a National date you lose the right to make a choice on whether or not to comply with a one year contract.



You are obviously on a mission to dis Youthstream, GH, and Jody as much as you possibly can to the point of starting redundant threads.



Sorry Glen Helen isn't closed Memorial Weekend since this appears to be one thing that would make you happy.

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