NEW SUZUKI RMZ 2025

JJO741
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Every now and then, I see some dealerships offering big discounts on them but they get nabbed up quick. As others have mentioned, there currently isn’t a big enough difference in price between an RMZ and other brands. I’m seeing new Kawasaki’s going for the same price or even cheaper which completely negates any advantage Suzuki would have regarding price. Love yellow, but it’s a hard buy if they’re going for only a little less than other manufacturers. 

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OuTBoReD
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6/3/2024 10:20pm

There's 7 other bikes with a button.

Once you've had it,you want it.

Suzukis are cool,but if you've had a button...then had a Suzuki and stalled it in an corner when it's hot,you'll have it listed on Monday.

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Teejay
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6/3/2024 11:21pm

I agree with a lot of guys on here about it, I love Suzukis, still regularly ride 2 stroke Suzukis.  But when it came to buying a new bike, it wasn’t really a viable option to get the yellow bike.  It worked out around £750 less than my new Ktm,

Would the bike hold me back?  Nope.  Do I need more than a standard bike can offer?  Nope.  Do I need E start?  No, but it is very convenient.  But if I had to sell my bike the Suzuki would be practically worthless and very hard to find a buyer for.  As much as I would like to own a new Suzuki, at this moment in time I couldn’t justify it over the other manufacturers.  Just my opinion.  Will continue to use my trusty old Rm 250 though! 

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OwenJakes
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OuTBoReD wrote:
There's 7 other bikes with a button. Once you've had it,you want it. Suzukis are cool,but if you've had a button...then had a Suzuki and stalled...

There's 7 other bikes with a button.

Once you've had it,you want it.

Suzukis are cool,but if you've had a button...then had a Suzuki and stalled it in an corner when it's hot,you'll have it listed on Monday.

Never would I consider selling a bike over having to start it after stalling it. Only you.

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6/4/2024 8:43am

I have honestly lost track of how many model years have had the same BOG (Bold Old Graphics). Let's forget about 2025 for a moment; I know the '24 models have the same graphics as the year before. Was that year also a duplicate? Same as 2022? 2021? 

Either way, it shows a perplexing position on the part of the corporation. If they're not even willing to spend the few man-hours it would take to redesign graphics for an existing model, then there's a reason for it. Suzuki would not keep firing up the tooling and building a new model year run of production unless they wanted to sell new motocross bikes. It cannot possibly be the decision of the company that they want to sell the worst, least-developed bike on the planet. So why are they letting their models stagnate? There are only a few possibilities:

-The analysis shows that their tooling will be paid off within a couple model years and they can discontinue selling motocross bikes after that. Therefore, they must produce and sell however many bikes.
(-A similar scenario to that might be that they have already built more frames than they have sold and must continue to assemble new model years, instead of scrapping the aluminum. A more remote possibility is that they have purchased a larger production run of plastics, wheels, electronics or suspension systems than what has been utilized in production, and must make use of those components.)
-Suzuki is developing a completely new bike which is not ready yet, or has not been released. All their eggs are in that basket, including the man hours that would have been necessary for BNG on the current model.
-Suzuki loves to troll VitalMX and wants to see how long Tyler will support the brand. 

I don't know. My money is on them building a new bike (possibly electric,) and using the current generation as stop-gap models to offer while the new units are in development. It would make sense to me if we were to find out that they have a pre-production RM-E ready right now and are simply waiting to see if Honda releases one. Suzuki has done similar things before. 

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wwdiii
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6/4/2024 8:51am

Worse than the fact you can buy a green bike the the same or less then a new RMZ.  Resale is in the tank for a  used RMZ.  It’s not all that great for A KX but ya might be able to sell one.  I’d hate to be trying to flip a Yellow bike in the current used market.

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6/4/2024 8:53am
Falcon wrote:
I have honestly lost track of how many model years have had the same BOG (Bold Old Graphics). Let's forget about 2025 for a moment; I...

I have honestly lost track of how many model years have had the same BOG (Bold Old Graphics). Let's forget about 2025 for a moment; I know the '24 models have the same graphics as the year before. Was that year also a duplicate? Same as 2022? 2021? 

Either way, it shows a perplexing position on the part of the corporation. If they're not even willing to spend the few man-hours it would take to redesign graphics for an existing model, then there's a reason for it. Suzuki would not keep firing up the tooling and building a new model year run of production unless they wanted to sell new motocross bikes. It cannot possibly be the decision of the company that they want to sell the worst, least-developed bike on the planet. So why are they letting their models stagnate? There are only a few possibilities:

-The analysis shows that their tooling will be paid off within a couple model years and they can discontinue selling motocross bikes after that. Therefore, they must produce and sell however many bikes.
(-A similar scenario to that might be that they have already built more frames than they have sold and must continue to assemble new model years, instead of scrapping the aluminum. A more remote possibility is that they have purchased a larger production run of plastics, wheels, electronics or suspension systems than what has been utilized in production, and must make use of those components.)
-Suzuki is developing a completely new bike which is not ready yet, or has not been released. All their eggs are in that basket, including the man hours that would have been necessary for BNG on the current model.
-Suzuki loves to troll VitalMX and wants to see how long Tyler will support the brand. 

I don't know. My money is on them building a new bike (possibly electric,) and using the current generation as stop-gap models to offer while the new units are in development. It would make sense to me if we were to find out that they have a pre-production RM-E ready right now and are simply waiting to see if Honda releases one. Suzuki has done similar things before. 

2019/2020 shared the same graphics

2021 and on is when we got BNG, and Suzuki has stuck with them, honestly I feel like they are a step-down from the 19/20

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6/4/2024 8:59am Edited Date/Time 6/4/2024 10:47am
Falcon wrote:
I have honestly lost track of how many model years have had the same BOG (Bold Old Graphics). Let's forget about 2025 for a moment; I...

I have honestly lost track of how many model years have had the same BOG (Bold Old Graphics). Let's forget about 2025 for a moment; I know the '24 models have the same graphics as the year before. Was that year also a duplicate? Same as 2022? 2021? 

Either way, it shows a perplexing position on the part of the corporation. If they're not even willing to spend the few man-hours it would take to redesign graphics for an existing model, then there's a reason for it. Suzuki would not keep firing up the tooling and building a new model year run of production unless they wanted to sell new motocross bikes. It cannot possibly be the decision of the company that they want to sell the worst, least-developed bike on the planet. So why are they letting their models stagnate? There are only a few possibilities:

-The analysis shows that their tooling will be paid off within a couple model years and they can discontinue selling motocross bikes after that. Therefore, they must produce and sell however many bikes.
(-A similar scenario to that might be that they have already built more frames than they have sold and must continue to assemble new model years, instead of scrapping the aluminum. A more remote possibility is that they have purchased a larger production run of plastics, wheels, electronics or suspension systems than what has been utilized in production, and must make use of those components.)
-Suzuki is developing a completely new bike which is not ready yet, or has not been released. All their eggs are in that basket, including the man hours that would have been necessary for BNG on the current model.
-Suzuki loves to troll VitalMX and wants to see how long Tyler will support the brand. 

I don't know. My money is on them building a new bike (possibly electric,) and using the current generation as stop-gap models to offer while the new units are in development. It would make sense to me if we were to find out that they have a pre-production RM-E ready right now and are simply waiting to see if Honda releases one. Suzuki has done similar things before. 

The problem with the new bike theory is by all accounts Suzuki cut its off-road R&D department worldwide. Who is designing, engineering and developing this new bike?

I think they are using up the last of their inventory and tooling with no plans for future models. I hope I'm wrong.

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An affordable, reliable, bullet proof 450 dirtbike that doesn’t hold me (or any of you) back. Keep it coming, this bike will be so far ahead...

An affordable, reliable, bullet proof 450 dirtbike that doesn’t hold me (or any of you) back. Keep it coming, this bike will be so far ahead of what any of us need until the end of our lives 

people don't need power windows, cruise control, rearview cameras, or entertainment systems that link to their phones. There are  vehicles that are cheap and drive you from point A to point B at a moderate price, but you don't see people running to the dealership to buy them.

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6/4/2024 10:09am
wwdiii wrote:
Worse than the fact you can buy a green bike the the same or less then a new RMZ.  Resale is in the tank for a...

Worse than the fact you can buy a green bike the the same or less then a new RMZ.  Resale is in the tank for a  used RMZ.  It’s not all that great for A KX but ya might be able to sell one.  I’d hate to be trying to flip a Yellow bike in the current used market.

I bought one about a year ago with 1 hour for $5700 and sold it a few months later with 50 hours for the same amount .  Just recently bought another one with 3 hours for $5000 and plan to do the same thing.  Being able to find and flip them is the main reason I am riding them , but I have also found that with upgraded suspension, I really like the bike.   Now that I have all the parts I want, I hope they keep making this version for at least a couple more years.

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TizzPrizz
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6/4/2024 10:28am
2019/2020 shared the same graphics 2021 and on is when we got BNG, and Suzuki has stuck with them, honestly I feel like they are a...

2019/2020 shared the same graphics

2021 and on is when we got BNG, and Suzuki has stuck with them, honestly I feel like they are a step-down from the 19/20

Actually 2018, 2019, and 2020 were all slightly different. 2018 had a blue and white stripe, 2019 had a blue and red stripe, and 2020 had a black and blue stripe.

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zookrider62!
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2019/2020 shared the same graphics 2021 and on is when we got BNG, and Suzuki has stuck with them, honestly I feel like they are a...

2019/2020 shared the same graphics

2021 and on is when we got BNG, and Suzuki has stuck with them, honestly I feel like they are a step-down from the 19/20

TizzPrizz wrote:
Actually 2018, 2019, and 2020 were all slightly different. 2018 had a blue and white stripe, 2019 had a blue and red stripe, and 2020 had...

Actually 2018, 2019, and 2020 were all slightly different. 2018 had a blue and white stripe, 2019 had a blue and red stripe, and 2020 had a black and blue stripe.

your attention to detail is better than mine Laughing

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6/4/2024 10:44am

The story was that after the tsunami, Zuki decided to build a new plant on high ground and is retooling 

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seth505
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6/4/2024 11:10am

All my testing and tuning is still valid, great success!!

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ILoveMoto
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How did Kenny win on that thing 🤔 

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Gillboy67
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6/5/2024 11:59am

I just was on Suzuki website and clicked around on the 23-24 450 nothing about 2025 just they extended the RM Army edition threw June 2024

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6/5/2024 1:52pm

Personally think they need to be cheaper , no money going into development / new factory lines , you can get a previous years 450 ( Honda kawi ktm group )  in the uk for example for probably £6000 - £6500 ( not sure what that is in usd ) the Suzukis need to be round about the 5 k mark imo 👍

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