Hunter Lawrence and Jason Anderson Fined by AMA

5/13/2024 3:24am
TogaSet wrote:
JA 21 doesn’t care.  He reached the top of his profession 450 SX title.  Ditched Aldon,  moved back west and now just in it for love...

JA 21 doesn’t care.  He reached the top of his profession 450 SX title.  Ditched Aldon,  moved back west and now just in it for love of the sport and good times.  If every penny mattered he’d still be back in Florida grinding out motos in the humidity like Dungey did.  Different personality. 

He does care, he's just too immature to know how to handle it, that Insta post was just stupid. 

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JA21 gon’ JA21. AMA gon’ AMA. To expect Ando to stop riding aggressive is like expecting the AMA to be consistent on all accounts, it isn’t going to happen. Hunter on the other hand is still forging his 450 reputation… fingers crossed this is an isolated incident. On to the outdoors!

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Should have been a black flag.  Slowing down a waiting to interfere with race results is totally different then racing foward and aggressive passing.  

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All I know is the that Anderson's a wanker. I had Hunter for 4th for my RM Fantasy top 5 and thanks to Anderson that got destroyed.

F'n wanker...

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Anyone have videos of said incidents?       I did not watch the final race, nor have any interest in it, but curious to see what the hubbub is about.    I still like a good scruff.

Ando is the AMAs favorite whipping boy after his "AMA suck it"  comment (or whatever wording it was) 

Hunter has proven himself to be a prick a number of times already.

That said....I'm all for the bar-banging.       The pussy-footing AMA (and the fans too) is just one more reason SX has gone to hell. 

 

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5/13/2024 9:00am

Hunter started to wash the front end before JA even made contact yet he’s still fined 

 

 

You're the second person I read posting this and it's just not true. JA hit Hunter's bar sending him up the berm.

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5/13/2024 9:13am

How about some thoughts from Cole Seely

on this topic.

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You wanna know why we don’t get air time on ESPN or cbs anymore? Because this sport is fucking soft. You can see where he locked bars with Hunter as his front end started sliding. Ja just helped him out. These tracks are slot car tracks,no passing and when you do there is contact and everyone freaks the fuck out because it’s a Lawerence brother. The tracks suck,they all do the same rythms,even the the 250s do the same as the 450s. They mess up in the middle they just grab a handful and triple out. Racing is not fun to watch anymore period. 

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Lol at people acting like aggressive riding and takeouts aren't Hunter's MO as well. Hell, even in this situation in Saturday night Hunter tried a takeout 🤣🤣

Live by the sword, die by the sword. It goes both ways.

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Hunter started to wash the front end before JA even made contact yet he’s still fined 

Skuzzy29 wrote:
    You're the second person I read posting this and it's just not true. JA hit Hunter's bar sending him up the berm.
 

 

You're the second person I read posting this and it's just not true. JA hit Hunter's bar sending him up the berm.

Carbunckle said it on the broadcast and it spread like a disease.

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5/13/2024 9:23am
mxracer71 wrote:
You wanna know why we don’t get air time on ESPN or cbs anymore? Because this sport is fucking soft. You can see where he locked...

You wanna know why we don’t get air time on ESPN or cbs anymore? Because this sport is fucking soft. You can see where he locked bars with Hunter as his front end started sliding. Ja just helped him out. These tracks are slot car tracks,no passing and when you do there is contact and everyone freaks the fuck out because it’s a Lawerence brother. The tracks suck,they all do the same rythms,even the the 250s do the same as the 450s. They mess up in the middle they just grab a handful and triple out. Racing is not fun to watch anymore period. 

Spot on.   I would only add that the broadcast as a whole is a pathetic joke. 

I finally had enough and tuned out....first time in all these years.

 

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Maybe I'm soft but I have a problem with guys getting angry, slowing down and taking frontrunners out while getting lapped. Anderson and Webb had a race going on and Hunter wasn't part of it. Next time someone gets mad over some tweet and takes a championship contender out from a lap down? Deliberately ruining leaders race while you are a lapper should result in such a harsh penalty, so even guys who are out of the race or championship would not consider it. Maybe a 5 or 10 race ban, don't get me wrong I want to see Hunter race but this cant be just a DQ or fine. Its like a fighter is not happy with his opponent or decision and sucer punches his opponent after the fight is over, you get a remach and get your revenge next time when you stand in the ring with the guy. 

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mxracer71 wrote:
You wanna know why we don’t get air time on ESPN or cbs anymore? Because this sport is fucking soft. You can see where he locked...

You wanna know why we don’t get air time on ESPN or cbs anymore? Because this sport is fucking soft. You can see where he locked bars with Hunter as his front end started sliding. Ja just helped him out. These tracks are slot car tracks,no passing and when you do there is contact and everyone freaks the fuck out because it’s a Lawerence brother. The tracks suck,they all do the same rythms,even the the 250s do the same as the 450s. They mess up in the middle they just grab a handful and triple out. Racing is not fun to watch anymore period. 

Who pissed in your cornflakes this morning?

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Kulpa wrote:
Maybe I'm soft but I have a problem with guys getting angry, slowing down and taking frontrunners out while getting lapped. Anderson and Webb had a...

Maybe I'm soft but I have a problem with guys getting angry, slowing down and taking frontrunners out while getting lapped. Anderson and Webb had a race going on and Hunter wasn't part of it. Next time someone gets mad over some tweet and takes a championship contender out from a lap down? Deliberately ruining leaders race while you are a lapper should result in such a harsh penalty, so even guys who are out of the race or championship would not consider it. Maybe a 5 or 10 race ban, don't get me wrong I want to see Hunter race but this cant be just a DQ or fine. Its like a fighter is not happy with his opponent or decision and sucer punches his opponent after the fight is over, you get a remach and get your revenge next time when you stand in the ring with the guy. 

100%

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mxracer71 wrote:
You wanna know why we don’t get air time on ESPN or cbs anymore? Because this sport is fucking soft. You can see where he locked...

You wanna know why we don’t get air time on ESPN or cbs anymore? Because this sport is fucking soft. You can see where he locked bars with Hunter as his front end started sliding. Ja just helped him out. These tracks are slot car tracks,no passing and when you do there is contact and everyone freaks the fuck out because it’s a Lawerence brother. The tracks suck,they all do the same rythms,even the the 250s do the same as the 450s. They mess up in the middle they just grab a handful and triple out. Racing is not fun to watch anymore period. 

Perky wrote:

Who pissed in your cornflakes this morning?

You think this sport as a whole is in a good spot? Look at attendance in salt lake. I’ve been watching moto since I can I can remember. I rode and raced in the hay days off the mid to late 90s. It usually takes me 30 mins to watch a night of racing because it’s that bad. First time I’ve ever done that. Somthing needs to be done to make it fun to watch again. The heat race with Levi and Rj was good. No optional lines,just the same rythms and just hope someone makes a mistake.

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5/13/2024 9:52am

If the AMA black flagged Reed in 2015 A2 for bumping Canard while on the same lap, then this retaliation move should have definitely resulted in a black flag as well with Hunter being a lap down.  You don't have to agree with the call, or you can call it the worst AMA call in history, but the point is they need to be consistent and not show favoritism to certain riders.  Rules and penalties are supposed to be enforced consistently, no matter how bad you think they are.

With that said, I'm still waiting to see the pass that deserved the fine from Anderson.  Because that pass posted above is nothing near anything that level.  Hunter took himself out by staying in it, he should have checked up.

It looks to me like Jett got himself too mentally involved with this incident during the race.  He looked back to focus on Anderson and made a mistake while doing so.  Moving forward, I could see Jett trying to get involved for payback after something like this, and that's playing with fire.  Imagine if this cat and mouse game continues, Anderson takes one of them down again, and Jett or Hunter gets injured??  Not a good idea.  

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Kulpa wrote:
Maybe I'm soft but I have a problem with guys getting angry, slowing down and taking frontrunners out while getting lapped. Anderson and Webb had a...

Maybe I'm soft but I have a problem with guys getting angry, slowing down and taking frontrunners out while getting lapped. Anderson and Webb had a race going on and Hunter wasn't part of it. Next time someone gets mad over some tweet and takes a championship contender out from a lap down? Deliberately ruining leaders race while you are a lapper should result in such a harsh penalty, so even guys who are out of the race or championship would not consider it. Maybe a 5 or 10 race ban, don't get me wrong I want to see Hunter race but this cant be just a DQ or fine. Its like a fighter is not happy with his opponent or decision and sucer punches his opponent after the fight is over, you get a remach and get your revenge next time when you stand in the ring with the guy. 

Are you fine if they take a contender out if they are on the same lap? The punishment for the act should be the same no matter what lap they are on. 
 

And it should not matter if it is a contender or not, all riders on the track are worth the same, should be treated the same and get a punishment the same way.

 

The problem is that we have a couple of riders that mange to ride them self in to a probation almost every season (JB, JA and Friece) that clearly have something missing in their race craft.

We have had two ”lapped rider incidents” what i know of? Bogle on Barcia and now Hunter on Ando. 
 

Think about WHY it’s just Barcia and Anderson that another rider finally had enough of, SHOULD they be allowed to ride the way they do that the other riders finally have to take the matter in their own hands?.

The other side of the coin.

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5/13/2024 10:18am

This reminds me of Pala 2022, when Hunter took out Shimoda for second place in the series.    

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Tumic wrote:
Are you fine if they take a contender out if they are on the same lap? The punishment for the act should be the same no...

Are you fine if they take a contender out if they are on the same lap? The punishment for the act should be the same no matter what lap they are on. 
 

And it should not matter if it is a contender or not, all riders on the track are worth the same, should be treated the same and get a punishment the same way.

 

The problem is that we have a couple of riders that mange to ride them self in to a probation almost every season (JB, JA and Friece) that clearly have something missing in their race craft.

We have had two ”lapped rider incidents” what i know of? Bogle on Barcia and now Hunter on Ando. 
 

Think about WHY it’s just Barcia and Anderson that another rider finally had enough of, SHOULD they be allowed to ride the way they do that the other riders finally have to take the matter in their own hands?.

The other side of the coin.

“The punishment for the act should be the same no matter what lap they are on.”
 

You can’t be serious, right? There is no way a logical motorsports fan thinks this is true. 

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mxracer71 wrote:
You wanna know why we don’t get air time on ESPN or cbs anymore? Because this sport is fucking soft. You can see where he locked...

You wanna know why we don’t get air time on ESPN or cbs anymore? Because this sport is fucking soft. You can see where he locked bars with Hunter as his front end started sliding. Ja just helped him out. These tracks are slot car tracks,no passing and when you do there is contact and everyone freaks the fuck out because it’s a Lawerence brother. The tracks suck,they all do the same rythms,even the the 250s do the same as the 450s. They mess up in the middle they just grab a handful and triple out. Racing is not fun to watch anymore period. 

Perky wrote:

Who pissed in your cornflakes this morning?

mxracer71 wrote:
You think this sport as a whole is in a good spot? Look at attendance in salt lake. I’ve been watching moto since I can I...

You think this sport as a whole is in a good spot? Look at attendance in salt lake. I’ve been watching moto since I can I can remember. I rode and raced in the hay days off the mid to late 90s. It usually takes me 30 mins to watch a night of racing because it’s that bad. First time I’ve ever done that. Somthing needs to be done to make it fun to watch again. The heat race with Levi and Rj was good. No optional lines,just the same rythms and just hope someone makes a mistake.

What's your point about attendance? the stadium in SLC was sold out? 

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Oldschool wrote:

Bottom line , Punted Anderson while a lap down ... 

LoL..."Punted Anderson"   Laughing

Punt ? ... They didn't even touch.

What kinda hyper-dramatic description do you have for what Anderson did to Hunter. 

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Hunter was in the way. JA moved him out of the way. 
 

Like Bubba said, JA has the AMA on Zelle

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Man...JAndo NAILED hunters lower leg. Shocked

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5/13/2024 10:39am Edited Date/Time 5/13/2024 11:16am
Kulpa wrote:
Maybe I'm soft but I have a problem with guys getting angry, slowing down and taking frontrunners out while getting lapped. Anderson and Webb had a...

Maybe I'm soft but I have a problem with guys getting angry, slowing down and taking frontrunners out while getting lapped. Anderson and Webb had a race going on and Hunter wasn't part of it. Next time someone gets mad over some tweet and takes a championship contender out from a lap down? Deliberately ruining leaders race while you are a lapper should result in such a harsh penalty, so even guys who are out of the race or championship would not consider it. Maybe a 5 or 10 race ban, don't get me wrong I want to see Hunter race but this cant be just a DQ or fine. Its like a fighter is not happy with his opponent or decision and sucer punches his opponent after the fight is over, you get a remach and get your revenge next time when you stand in the ring with the guy. 

Tumic wrote:
Are you fine if they take a contender out if they are on the same lap? The punishment for the act should be the same no...

Are you fine if they take a contender out if they are on the same lap? The punishment for the act should be the same no matter what lap they are on. 
 

And it should not matter if it is a contender or not, all riders on the track are worth the same, should be treated the same and get a punishment the same way.

 

The problem is that we have a couple of riders that mange to ride them self in to a probation almost every season (JB, JA and Friece) that clearly have something missing in their race craft.

We have had two ”lapped rider incidents” what i know of? Bogle on Barcia and now Hunter on Ando. 
 

Think about WHY it’s just Barcia and Anderson that another rider finally had enough of, SHOULD they be allowed to ride the way they do that the other riders finally have to take the matter in their own hands?.

The other side of the coin.

Lawrence made a blatant attempt to impede the progress of a lead lap rider which is against the rules . 

 

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Kulpa wrote:
Maybe I'm soft but I have a problem with guys getting angry, slowing down and taking frontrunners out while getting lapped. Anderson and Webb had a...

Maybe I'm soft but I have a problem with guys getting angry, slowing down and taking frontrunners out while getting lapped. Anderson and Webb had a race going on and Hunter wasn't part of it. Next time someone gets mad over some tweet and takes a championship contender out from a lap down? Deliberately ruining leaders race while you are a lapper should result in such a harsh penalty, so even guys who are out of the race or championship would not consider it. Maybe a 5 or 10 race ban, don't get me wrong I want to see Hunter race but this cant be just a DQ or fine. Its like a fighter is not happy with his opponent or decision and sucer punches his opponent after the fight is over, you get a remach and get your revenge next time when you stand in the ring with the guy. 

Tumic wrote:
Are you fine if they take a contender out if they are on the same lap? The punishment for the act should be the same no...

Are you fine if they take a contender out if they are on the same lap? The punishment for the act should be the same no matter what lap they are on. 
 

And it should not matter if it is a contender or not, all riders on the track are worth the same, should be treated the same and get a punishment the same way.

 

The problem is that we have a couple of riders that mange to ride them self in to a probation almost every season (JB, JA and Friece) that clearly have something missing in their race craft.

We have had two ”lapped rider incidents” what i know of? Bogle on Barcia and now Hunter on Ando. 
 

Think about WHY it’s just Barcia and Anderson that another rider finally had enough of, SHOULD they be allowed to ride the way they do that the other riders finally have to take the matter in their own hands?.

The other side of the coin.

ATKpilot99 wrote:

Lawrence made a blatant attempt to impede the progress of a lead lap rider which is against the rules . 

 

I believe Chisholm was DQ’d for this in 09 as well

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toroP wrote:

How about some thoughts from Cole Seely

on this topic.

big fax 😂😂 me & my step bro went to the ATL SX where ando did seely so dirty on tht last lap

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Oldschool wrote:

Bottom line , Punted Anderson while a lap down ... 

mooch wrote:
LoL..."Punted Anderson"    Punt ? ... They didn't even touch. What kinda hyper-dramatic description do you have for what Anderson did to Hunter. 

LoL..."Punted Anderson"   Laughing

Punt ? ... They didn't even touch.

What kinda hyper-dramatic description do you have for what Anderson did to Hunter. 

It’s not too late to delete your post…

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Perky wrote:

Who pissed in your cornflakes this morning?

mxracer71 wrote:
You think this sport as a whole is in a good spot? Look at attendance in salt lake. I’ve been watching moto since I can I...

You think this sport as a whole is in a good spot? Look at attendance in salt lake. I’ve been watching moto since I can I can remember. I rode and raced in the hay days off the mid to late 90s. It usually takes me 30 mins to watch a night of racing because it’s that bad. First time I’ve ever done that. Somthing needs to be done to make it fun to watch again. The heat race with Levi and Rj was good. No optional lines,just the same rythms and just hope someone makes a mistake.

DonM wrote:

What's your point about attendance? the stadium in SLC was sold out? 

You watch the broadcast? It was so sold out?it looked like an Oakland a”s game……

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My bad not a Punt...

Love Tap

By " Impeded Jasons current course and or direction " 

 

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5/13/2024 11:40am

Review Anderson’s last corner pass on Webb. See if you think he clips Webb’s bars.

This is normal for JA. He’s done it to Roczen, Barcia, Reed, Seely …. The AMA has offered very little deterrent, so the field should know, it’s allowed. Deal with it or not.
Some guys choose to ride that way, others don’t. Normal SX.

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