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With all the talk of the deepest field, has there been any thought of the tracks not having the dragon backs, less whoops and just straight up lame designs being the culprit to the close competition?

 

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4/16/2024 3:37am

Yes, the tracks have been discussed many times in post race interviews and podcasts. The track builders don’t want this and a few have said the longer/taller whoop sections are a good separator. Feld seems concerned about safety as they want these guys healthy for the last 3 playoff rounds but I don’t think it’s worth it to “dumb down” the tracks. They claim they have data to prove more accidents occurred on longer whoop sections and dragon backs but where are these numbers? Show us this data Feld! And if they planned on eliminating these obstacles, why didn’t they tell the riders in the off season? These guys practiced for months on the “dangerous” obstacles that Feld decided would no longer be part of track design. These are the best riders in the world, they should be riding the most difficult supercross tracks in the world. 

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4/16/2024 3:53am

Most of the tracks this year in my opinion have sucked layout wise, they need to get more creative in a better way. 

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St. Louis was the best track of the year. It actually used the whole floor space for the track, not really any wasted areas.

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Rosso391 wrote:

St. Louis was the best track of the year. It actually used the whole floor space for the track, not really any wasted areas.

The track may have used the whole floor space but there was 1 corner the riders could pass in [left hand 180 after the triple]. 

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4/16/2024 6:59am

I think with how bad the weather and dirt has been dragons backs and gnar whoops would not be very good

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Rosso391 wrote:

St. Louis was the best track of the year. It actually used the whole floor space for the track, not really any wasted areas.

The track may have used the whole floor space but there was 1 corner the riders could pass in [left hand 180 after the triple]. 

Guys were making passes in the other 3 180's... Across the start straight 180's and the 180 before the finish line.

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With all the talk of the deepest field, has there been any thought of the tracks not having the dragon backs, less whoops and just straight...

With all the talk of the deepest field, has there been any thought of the tracks not having the dragon backs, less whoops and just straight up lame designs being the culprit to the close competition?

 

We're not that different from the points standings last year

 

Last year by round 13, 17 points were separating the top 3, this year 15 points.

Last year, 4 winners, this year 6.

 

I dont think it has anything to do with the tracks, and has everything to do with timing.

We've got some mud rounds to mix things up, an elite rookie making rookie mistakes, a defending champ learning a new bike, a previous champ coming off an injury, and another previous champ finding his old form.

 

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4/16/2024 8:19am

There are only so many different obstacles that are included in every SX track so how about….. Dream up some new unique obstacles and forward them to Feld for consideration on 2025 tracks?

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Rosso391 wrote:

Guys were making passes in the other 3 180's... Across the start straight 180's and the 180 before the finish line.

There were 3 180s total at STL. The right 180 that went backwards across the start that was one lined, the left 180 that was after it where maybe you could set up a pass after lap 2 and the 180 left after the triple I mentioned before. The first two were too high speed to really get a pass made, just follow the guy in front of you through there. As were the 5 90 degree corners. The half banked 180s are one lined more than not and passes were not made there unless you were trying to send someone into the fourth row. 

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4/16/2024 12:01pm

2024 Brazilian SX, recent  track design, looked like the USA SX tracks of old. Maybe Feld should take notice. 

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4/17/2024 12:23pm

I just watched 2004 A2 and was amazed we had that track back in the day.

1 long lane full of whoops, 3 on off tables (middle one was the over under), hard to make triple after whoops, sand section. If they are out of ideas they could just go back and look at something they've done already.

 

 

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lumpy790
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4/17/2024 12:33pm

Longer sand sections 

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4/17/2024 3:19pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2024 3:20pm

Hell, at this point they don’t even need to make new layouts. Just pick one that mimics years past that was great and then they could show clips of the past racing on it. Kind of “a history of tonight’s track layout” kinda thing. Wouldn’t even need to be exact. 

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mx_phreek
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4/17/2024 4:30pm

How do the tracks seem so much bigger than now

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4/18/2024 9:05am
mx_phreek wrote:

How do the tracks seem so much bigger than now

Partly the perspective of the camera lenses and angles changed over time. But they definitely had better track designs from 2000-2008. Used a lot more floor space.

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4/18/2024 9:49am

Kind of on same topic...Nashville Track for East/West Shootout. Not sure if this is supposed to be a double-in, double-out (unlikely), or just three singles in the middle of the split start.

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