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Coop being 8 points back and Eli 29 points back, will there be a "Let Koop Bye" with just 5 races to go from Bobby? Gotta at least ride a wide bike if in front of Jett when the opportunity presents itself. 

The "tough guy" response of course is "Heck No!" But what would you do if you were going for the championship as team owner?

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4/13/2024 12:17pm Edited Date/Time 8/31/2026 9:15pm

SuperMotocross is not a team sport, wink-wink.

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ILoveMoto wrote:
Coop being 8 points back and Eli 29 points back, will there be a "Let Koop Bye" with just 5 races to go from Bobby? Gotta at...

Coop being 8 points back and Eli 29 points back, will there be a "Let Koop Bye" with just 5 races to go from Bobby? Gotta at least ride a wide bike if in front of Jett when the opportunity presents itself. 

The "tough guy" response of course is "Heck No!" But what would you do if you were going for the championship as team owner?

It happens no matter how much we like it or not.

The other thing that bothers me is ”i won’t race them because they fight for the title” bs.

If you want to be the best, you should have to race every rider that is on the track, not just the one that are in the title hunt. I hate to see when a top 5-10 guy just roll over and let the fast guys pass.

BUT i hope that Eli and Justin man up and say that if Webb want the title, he should earn it by him self, not by gift from his team mates.

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ILoveMoto wrote:
Coop being 8 points back and Eli 29 points back, will there be a "Let Koop Bye" with just 5 races to go from Bobby? Gotta at...

Coop being 8 points back and Eli 29 points back, will there be a "Let Koop Bye" with just 5 races to go from Bobby? Gotta at least ride a wide bike if in front of Jett when the opportunity presents itself. 

The "tough guy" response of course is "Heck No!" But what would you do if you were going for the championship as team owner?

Eli probably would not be too keen on that. Think 2017 SX championship...

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Granted it was a non-points race, but Joey pulled over and let Eli win a cool million when both were on Kawi's. 

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ILoveMoto wrote:

Granted it was a non-points race, but Joey pulled over and let Eli win a cool million when both were on Kawi's. 

True.

Let's expand on this a bit... Say Eli is hanging up the boots after this SX season. Last race of the season and Eli is leading, but Cooper is in P2, and needs Eli between him and Jett to close the deal. (I know...a lot of hypotheticals here) Does Eli pull over for Webb and Star, or does he go for it and bookend his pro career with wins? 

I doubt this scenario would ever happen, but that would be a tough call IMO... 

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Yes that's alot of "Stars" that would have to line up. Tough call. I don't see him pulling over. 

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True. Let's expand on this a bit... Say Eli is hanging up the boots after this SX season. Last race of the season and Eli is...

True.

Let's expand on this a bit... Say Eli is hanging up the boots after this SX season. Last race of the season and Eli is leading, but Cooper is in P2, and needs Eli between him and Jett to close the deal. (I know...a lot of hypotheticals here) Does Eli pull over for Webb and Star, or does he go for it and bookend his pro career with wins? 

I doubt this scenario would ever happen, but that would be a tough call IMO... 

For Eli it would be an easy call. It’s his career, not Webb’s. If Webb deserved the title, he should have done a better Job the whole season, and i think that Webb would feel the same way to.

He don’t struck me like a guy that want a title he did not earn him self.

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Eli’s not moving over. Justin probably will. 

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4/13/2024 1:59pm Edited Date/Time 4/13/2024 2:00pm
ILoveMoto wrote:
Coop being 8 points back and Eli 29 points back, will there be a "Let Koop Bye" with just 5 races to go from Bobby? Gotta at...

Coop being 8 points back and Eli 29 points back, will there be a "Let Koop Bye" with just 5 races to go from Bobby? Gotta at least ride a wide bike if in front of Jett when the opportunity presents itself. 

The "tough guy" response of course is "Heck No!" But what would you do if you were going for the championship as team owner?

mike83 wrote:

Eli probably would not be too keen on that. Think 2017 SX championship...

And the Monster cup debacle with Savatgy. 
 

Team Tomac are narcissists.

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I just remembered, several races ago Eli was actually making it hard for Coop to get by while he was in pursuit of Jett. May have been a lap down. 🤔

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Bunching, anyone?

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4/13/2024 2:22pm Edited Date/Time 4/13/2024 2:24pm

No!

Are we talking about letting a faster rider bye or a Savatgy moment.

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Bunching, anyone?

Forgot about Dungey? pulling that move. It almost worked! 

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Monster Energy Kawasakis Eli Tomac Wins Monster Million and Joey Savatgy Podiums in 450 Class Debut.

"Tomac closed the gap on his Monster Energy Kawasaki teammate and made the pass in the back section of the track to sweep the night and secure the Monster Million". Wink Wink 😉 

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Someone is punting jett on a blue bike 2nite or in next rounds same with 250 class 4th down now

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ILoveMoto wrote:
Coop being 8 points back and Eli 29 points back, will there be a "Let Koop Bye" with just 5 races to go from Bobby? Gotta at...

Coop being 8 points back and Eli 29 points back, will there be a "Let Koop Bye" with just 5 races to go from Bobby? Gotta at least ride a wide bike if in front of Jett when the opportunity presents itself. 

The "tough guy" response of course is "Heck No!" But what would you do if you were going for the championship as team owner?

mike83 wrote:

Eli probably would not be too keen on that. Think 2017 SX championship...

When he and Grant were playing games to get the title for Eli?

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4/13/2024 11:47pm Edited Date/Time 4/13/2024 11:49pm
ILoveMoto wrote:
Coop being 8 points back and Eli 29 points back, will there be a "Let Koop Bye" with just 5 races to go from Bobby? Gotta at...

Coop being 8 points back and Eli 29 points back, will there be a "Let Koop Bye" with just 5 races to go from Bobby? Gotta at least ride a wide bike if in front of Jett when the opportunity presents itself. 

The "tough guy" response of course is "Heck No!" But what would you do if you were going for the championship as team owner?

In general no one wants to just hand the championship to Jett his rookie year but the 450 is mature enough to not send him over the berm every chance they get.  Barcia had his hit and these guys are good at pinching off the good lines but don’t look for people like Anderson to have any major contact.  They may look like they are headed his way but they are pros and can ride tight on a SX track.  If anything they are just making Jett take more chances I don’t know if others will do.  Bumping off the start is the best chance they have and makes for more tv making Jett work through the pack.

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ILoveMoto wrote:
Coop being 8 points back and Eli 29 points back, will there be a "Let Koop Bye" with just 5 races to go from Bobby? Gotta at...

Coop being 8 points back and Eli 29 points back, will there be a "Let Koop Bye" with just 5 races to go from Bobby? Gotta at least ride a wide bike if in front of Jett when the opportunity presents itself. 

The "tough guy" response of course is "Heck No!" But what would you do if you were going for the championship as team owner?

mike83 wrote:

Eli probably would not be too keen on that. Think 2017 SX championship...

When he and Grant were playing games to get the title for Eli?

Starts about 19:15, and catch Eli's comments about team tactics in the presser afterwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT7Dr_KQSmY

 

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Looks like I got my answer...

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Funny to read this and how many people said Tomac wouldn’t move over.

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Funny to read this and how many people said Tomac wouldn’t move over.

3 brave souls gave the thumbs up while a whopping 32 voted 👎

"Learning lesson" 😏

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CPR wrote:

Funny to read this and how many people said Tomac wouldn’t move over.

Just because he moved over is not an indication of team orders. I saw it move of Eli doing Coop a solid.

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CPR wrote:

Funny to read this and how many people said Tomac wouldn’t move over.

MxAddic wrote:

Just because he moved over is not an indication of team orders. I saw it move of Eli doing Coop a solid.

Like MM25 did for RD5?

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4/30/2024 8:21am Edited Date/Time 4/30/2024 8:23am
jjavaman wrote:

Like MM25 did for RD5?

No. And Marv is still getting paid for that ...

Strictly a business decision on his part.

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