Going from a YZ250f to an RMZ250

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I currently have a 22' Yz250f and I love the bike but it is starting to get up there in hours and I'm starting to look for a new bike. I'm a 6 foot tall and 170 lbs C-B rider and mainly ride practice tracks for fun and race occasionally. I would just buy the 24' yz250f but I've read reviews that its lost a lot of the bottom end power that the previous model had and that's one of the best parts of my current bike. Another thing I am taking into consideration is the price, its looking like a yamaha is going to run me close to $9k where I can get a suzuki for $6k. I've read that the suzuki has great bottom end power and corners very well, which sounds appealing to me. I do know that the suspension on the suzuki is way oversprung from the factory so I would immediately be sending the suspension to enzo to get set up for my weight (they got my yz set up perfectly). Am I crazy for considering the suzuki?

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4/8/2024 9:04am

Do it, they are great bikes with solid reliability. 

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4/8/2024 11:41am

I mean, the last 250 rmz i hopped on was a 2021, but damn, the rmz felt really slower than the other bikes i’ve ridden in the last 3 years. 
yeah, it has a really good low, but just the hit on the gas, it has “acceptable” mid and no highs.

i grew up racing a 15/19 kxf 250, similar charateristics to the rmz, but after the last few years riding 21 kxf 250, 23 kxf 250, i tested a ktm… i wouldn’t buy a rmz.

it also depends on the type of tracks, but for a 1500/2000€ i’d still get something else than a rmz.

kxf is a good compromise price/performance. The 23 is nice over the 21.

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Why not just spend 750.00 and get a fresh top end rebuild on the bike you have. You can get lots of hours on that bike and be happy. Its not junk, just because its getting up in the hours. I would keep what you have and not take a chance. 

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My 2 cents is that you would be going from the 250 with the most bottom end and most comfort. To a 250 that is median power, stiffest bike in class but turns well.

I'd refresh a YZ all day before I went to a RMZ in my opinon. The other option is that I believe buying a new or low hour 2023 or the new 2024 would be well worth the additional money.

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KHNC wrote:
Why not just spend 750.00 and get a fresh top end rebuild on the bike you have. You can get lots of hours on that bike...

Why not just spend 750.00 and get a fresh top end rebuild on the bike you have. You can get lots of hours on that bike and be happy. Its not junk, just because its getting up in the hours. I would keep what you have and not take a chance. 

I've already put a top end in and by the end of this season I will be around 150ish hours which is when I will be looking to buy. I'm not really wanting to mess with doing a bottom end and having a fresh bike is always nice

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Love my 24 YZ250F. You can make a lot of bottom end adjustments with mapping. 

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My 2 cents is that you would be going from the 250 with the most bottom end and most comfort. To a 250 that is median...

My 2 cents is that you would be going from the 250 with the most bottom end and most comfort. To a 250 that is median power, stiffest bike in class but turns well.

I'd refresh a YZ all day before I went to a RMZ in my opinon. The other option is that I believe buying a new or low hour 2023 or the new 2024 would be well worth the additional money.

Is the frame that stiff on an rmz? Or is it just the way they are set up from the factory? I was thinking getting it valved and sprung for my weight would help with this

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Bizarre comments in here. The RMZ is bulletproof and has plenty of power especially for your skill level. It is not going to rev out to the moon like the Austrians and KX but it’s got sweet low end that carries smoothly. It’s going to come out or the box with the best components like KYB Dunlop renthal etc. good mapping options too. Heck, maybe even a pro circuit pipe. If you’ve got a line on 6k RMZ’s let me know we’ll see if we can get a 2 bike discount😂

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OwenJakes wrote:
Bizarre comments in here. The RMZ is bulletproof and has plenty of power especially for your skill level. It is not going to rev out to...

Bizarre comments in here. The RMZ is bulletproof and has plenty of power especially for your skill level. It is not going to rev out to the moon like the Austrians and KX but it’s got sweet low end that carries smoothly. It’s going to come out or the box with the best components like KYB Dunlop renthal etc. good mapping options too. Heck, maybe even a pro circuit pipe. If you’ve got a line on 6k RMZ’s let me know we’ll see if we can get a 2 bike discount😂

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OwenJakes wrote:
Bizarre comments in here. The RMZ is bulletproof and has plenty of power especially for your skill level. It is not going to rev out to...

Bizarre comments in here. The RMZ is bulletproof and has plenty of power especially for your skill level. It is not going to rev out to the moon like the Austrians and KX but it’s got sweet low end that carries smoothly. It’s going to come out or the box with the best components like KYB Dunlop renthal etc. good mapping options too. Heck, maybe even a pro circuit pipe. If you’ve got a line on 6k RMZ’s let me know we’ll see if we can get a 2 bike discount😂

jridout12 wrote:

Wonder what the OTD is on that yellow bike.

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My 2 cents is that you would be going from the 250 with the most bottom end and most comfort. To a 250 that is median...

My 2 cents is that you would be going from the 250 with the most bottom end and most comfort. To a 250 that is median power, stiffest bike in class but turns well.

I'd refresh a YZ all day before I went to a RMZ in my opinon. The other option is that I believe buying a new or low hour 2023 or the new 2024 would be well worth the additional money.

jridout12 wrote:
Is the frame that stiff on an rmz? Or is it just the way they are set up from the factory? I was thinking getting it...

Is the frame that stiff on an rmz? Or is it just the way they are set up from the factory? I was thinking getting it valved and sprung for my weight would help with this

In my opinion the frame is very rigid from the showroom floor.  The springs are stiff for me at 185lb Vet B rider.

Just my 2 cents as I said, take it with a grain of salt. You might not feel the same things I do ya know.  But I'd think you be going from the best all around bike in the class to my personal least favorite bike.

I think buying the same generation 2022 or 2023 that is low hour or new if you can find, would be a much more fun than saving a few thousand.  Unless money is tight, then yes get the RMZ.

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My 2 cents is that you would be going from the 250 with the most bottom end and most comfort. To a 250 that is median...

My 2 cents is that you would be going from the 250 with the most bottom end and most comfort. To a 250 that is median power, stiffest bike in class but turns well.

I'd refresh a YZ all day before I went to a RMZ in my opinon. The other option is that I believe buying a new or low hour 2023 or the new 2024 would be well worth the additional money.

jridout12 wrote:
Is the frame that stiff on an rmz? Or is it just the way they are set up from the factory? I was thinking getting it...

Is the frame that stiff on an rmz? Or is it just the way they are set up from the factory? I was thinking getting it valved and sprung for my weight would help with this

In my opinion the frame is very rigid from the showroom floor.  The springs are stiff for me at 185lb Vet B rider. Just my 2...

In my opinion the frame is very rigid from the showroom floor.  The springs are stiff for me at 185lb Vet B rider.

Just my 2 cents as I said, take it with a grain of salt. You might not feel the same things I do ya know.  But I'd think you be going from the best all around bike in the class to my personal least favorite bike.

I think buying the same generation 2022 or 2023 that is low hour or new if you can find, would be a much more fun than saving a few thousand.  Unless money is tight, then yes get the RMZ.

Money's not really the issue, I was kinda wanting to try something different. I thought if I could buy the bike, a pipe, suspension setup, and yellow wheels (RMZ's are the best looking bikes with yellow wheels imo) for around the same price as the new yz I'd be pretty happy. Obviously I wouldn't want to do that if it was taking a huge step backwards but I figured all the modern bikes are good enough for 95% of us

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Downgrade in every single way except hours on the bike. I would rebuild if money was an issue. If not, then the Suz shouldn’t even be in the question. 

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OwenJakes wrote:
Bizarre comments in here. The RMZ is bulletproof and has plenty of power especially for your skill level. It is not going to rev out to...

Bizarre comments in here. The RMZ is bulletproof and has plenty of power especially for your skill level. It is not going to rev out to the moon like the Austrians and KX but it’s got sweet low end that carries smoothly. It’s going to come out or the box with the best components like KYB Dunlop renthal etc. good mapping options too. Heck, maybe even a pro circuit pipe. If you’ve got a line on 6k RMZ’s let me know we’ll see if we can get a 2 bike discount😂

jridout12 wrote:
wwdiii wrote:

Wonder what the OTD is on that yellow bike.

I couldn’t help myself. The salesman is getting me a price OTD right now. JR, I’ll post what the fees look like. 

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jridout12 wrote:
wwdiii wrote:

Wonder what the OTD is on that yellow bike.

OwenJakes wrote:

I couldn’t help myself. The salesman is getting me a price OTD right now. JR, I’ll post what the fees look like. 

If I had to guess, it'd be in the $6,500-$6,700 range

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OwenJakes wrote:
Bizarre comments in here. The RMZ is bulletproof and has plenty of power especially for your skill level. It is not going to rev out to...

Bizarre comments in here. The RMZ is bulletproof and has plenty of power especially for your skill level. It is not going to rev out to the moon like the Austrians and KX but it’s got sweet low end that carries smoothly. It’s going to come out or the box with the best components like KYB Dunlop renthal etc. good mapping options too. Heck, maybe even a pro circuit pipe. If you’ve got a line on 6k RMZ’s let me know we’ll see if we can get a 2 bike discount😂

jridout12 wrote:

-$2000 on the list price

 

+$2000 in dealer fees

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OwenJakes wrote:
Bizarre comments in here. The RMZ is bulletproof and has plenty of power especially for your skill level. It is not going to rev out to...

Bizarre comments in here. The RMZ is bulletproof and has plenty of power especially for your skill level. It is not going to rev out to the moon like the Austrians and KX but it’s got sweet low end that carries smoothly. It’s going to come out or the box with the best components like KYB Dunlop renthal etc. good mapping options too. Heck, maybe even a pro circuit pipe. If you’ve got a line on 6k RMZ’s let me know we’ll see if we can get a 2 bike discount😂

jridout12 wrote:

-$2000 on the list price

 

+$2000 in dealer fees

I’d bet fees look like, just a few bucks south of a grand, 475 ish shop time put it together.  100 bucks doc fees.

All together 1500 in fees in round numbers my guess.  Which gets ya to about 7500 OTD is my guess.  Way less than 10-14k for,other brands.
 

 

4/8/2024 2:01pm

RMZ is a solid bike. Reliable as all hell, corners sweeter than any 250f out there IMO, and yellow bikes just look sweet. Get your suspension done up the way you want it and enjoy. As a C class rider, the color of the bike is not holding you back 
 

Everyone always comes along with the same old rigidity magazine regurgitation BS, most people who will tell you not to buy it probably haven’t even ridden an RMZ250…

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jridout12 wrote:

-$2000 on the list price

 

+$2000 in dealer fees

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I’d bet fees look like, just a few bucks south of a grand, 475 ish shop time put it together.  100 bucks doc fees. All together...

I’d bet fees look like, just a few bucks south of a grand, 475 ish shop time put it together.  100 bucks doc fees.

All together 1500 in fees in round numbers my guess.  Which gets ya to about 7500 OTD is my guess.  Way less than 10-14k for,other brands.
 

 

Nailed it. 7400 strapped down and headed home. 

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My offer perpetually stands. I’ll purchase any RMZ new for 6k or less. I believe anyone claiming to have bought one for less is lying.

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jridout12 wrote:
Is the frame that stiff on an rmz? Or is it just the way they are set up from the factory? I was thinking getting it...

Is the frame that stiff on an rmz? Or is it just the way they are set up from the factory? I was thinking getting it valved and sprung for my weight would help with this

In my opinion the frame is very rigid from the showroom floor.  The springs are stiff for me at 185lb Vet B rider. Just my 2...

In my opinion the frame is very rigid from the showroom floor.  The springs are stiff for me at 185lb Vet B rider.

Just my 2 cents as I said, take it with a grain of salt. You might not feel the same things I do ya know.  But I'd think you be going from the best all around bike in the class to my personal least favorite bike.

I think buying the same generation 2022 or 2023 that is low hour or new if you can find, would be a much more fun than saving a few thousand.  Unless money is tight, then yes get the RMZ.

jridout12 wrote:
Money's not really the issue, I was kinda wanting to try something different. I thought if I could buy the bike, a pipe, suspension setup, and...

Money's not really the issue, I was kinda wanting to try something different. I thought if I could buy the bike, a pipe, suspension setup, and yellow wheels (RMZ's are the best looking bikes with yellow wheels imo) for around the same price as the new yz I'd be pretty happy. Obviously I wouldn't want to do that if it was taking a huge step backwards but I figured all the modern bikes are good enough for 95% of us

You might love the RMZ, just giving my 2 cents.

If you want something different and money is there, why not try Triumph, KTM or Honda?  

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In my opinion the frame is very rigid from the showroom floor.  The springs are stiff for me at 185lb Vet B rider. Just my 2...

In my opinion the frame is very rigid from the showroom floor.  The springs are stiff for me at 185lb Vet B rider.

Just my 2 cents as I said, take it with a grain of salt. You might not feel the same things I do ya know.  But I'd think you be going from the best all around bike in the class to my personal least favorite bike.

I think buying the same generation 2022 or 2023 that is low hour or new if you can find, would be a much more fun than saving a few thousand.  Unless money is tight, then yes get the RMZ.

jridout12 wrote:
Money's not really the issue, I was kinda wanting to try something different. I thought if I could buy the bike, a pipe, suspension setup, and...

Money's not really the issue, I was kinda wanting to try something different. I thought if I could buy the bike, a pipe, suspension setup, and yellow wheels (RMZ's are the best looking bikes with yellow wheels imo) for around the same price as the new yz I'd be pretty happy. Obviously I wouldn't want to do that if it was taking a huge step backwards but I figured all the modern bikes are good enough for 95% of us

You might love the RMZ, just giving my 2 cents.

If you want something different and money is there, why not try Triumph, KTM or Honda?  

I don’t know, I always wanted to build up an RMZ with the JGR engine, A kit, and some good looking wheels. Having a fast rmz blow by the typical machines while sounding sick and looking better would be fun 😎

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It will come with a full pc exhaust.

 

youre getting the suspension done on day 1 (same cost as literally any bike you need set up unless you’re the magical unicorn west coast 160 lbs guy)

 

after that maybe do the screenless air filter cage (cheap), open up the air box some (free), and look for a vortex before those yellow wheels.

 

an rmz with the suspension done, full exhaust, airbox mods and a vortex won’t give up anything to any bike out there.

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jridout12 wrote:
Money's not really the issue, I was kinda wanting to try something different. I thought if I could buy the bike, a pipe, suspension setup, and...

Money's not really the issue, I was kinda wanting to try something different. I thought if I could buy the bike, a pipe, suspension setup, and yellow wheels (RMZ's are the best looking bikes with yellow wheels imo) for around the same price as the new yz I'd be pretty happy. Obviously I wouldn't want to do that if it was taking a huge step backwards but I figured all the modern bikes are good enough for 95% of us

You might love the RMZ, just giving my 2 cents.

If you want something different and money is there, why not try Triumph, KTM or Honda?  

Zycki11 wrote:
I don’t know, I always wanted to build up an RMZ with the JGR engine, A kit, and some good looking wheels. Having a fast rmz...

I don’t know, I always wanted to build up an RMZ with the JGR engine, A kit, and some good looking wheels. Having a fast rmz blow by the typical machines while sounding sick and looking better would be fun 😎

For sure, I mean if thats what you want to do, then enjoy it and do it ya know.

There's no right or wrong.  We are here just giving you our 2 cents because you asked for opinions on, "Am I crazy for considering the suzuki?"

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You might love the RMZ, just giving my 2 cents.

If you want something different and money is there, why not try Triumph, KTM or Honda?  

Zycki11 wrote:
I don’t know, I always wanted to build up an RMZ with the JGR engine, A kit, and some good looking wheels. Having a fast rmz...

I don’t know, I always wanted to build up an RMZ with the JGR engine, A kit, and some good looking wheels. Having a fast rmz blow by the typical machines while sounding sick and looking better would be fun 😎

For sure, I mean if thats what you want to do, then enjoy it and do it ya know. There's no right or wrong.  We are...

For sure, I mean if thats what you want to do, then enjoy it and do it ya know.

There's no right or wrong.  We are here just giving you our 2 cents because you asked for opinions on, "Am I crazy for considering the suzuki?"

Oh yeah all in good fun as well. Bikes are bikes and they all do something better than the others. Just enjoy em 

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Why not get a 24 kx? Then dump it for the new one 

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I personally think going from lectric start to kick start is a step backwards if it’s the only ride you have.  I wouldn’t mind having a Yellow bike, always wanted one, may get one.  But I have two other lectric start bikes.

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I personally think going from lectric start to kick start is a step backwards if it’s the only ride you have.  I wouldn’t mind having a...

I personally think going from lectric start to kick start is a step backwards if it’s the only ride you have.  I wouldn’t mind having a Yellow bike, always wanted one, may get one.  But I have two other lectric start bikes.

You’re just worried about your knee braces

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jridout12 wrote:
Is the frame that stiff on an rmz? Or is it just the way they are set up from the factory? I was thinking getting it...

Is the frame that stiff on an rmz? Or is it just the way they are set up from the factory? I was thinking getting it valved and sprung for my weight would help with this

In my opinion the frame is very rigid from the showroom floor.  The springs are stiff for me at 185lb Vet B rider. Just my 2...

In my opinion the frame is very rigid from the showroom floor.  The springs are stiff for me at 185lb Vet B rider.

Just my 2 cents as I said, take it with a grain of salt. You might not feel the same things I do ya know.  But I'd think you be going from the best all around bike in the class to my personal least favorite bike.

I think buying the same generation 2022 or 2023 that is low hour or new if you can find, would be a much more fun than saving a few thousand.  Unless money is tight, then yes get the RMZ.

jridout12 wrote:
Money's not really the issue, I was kinda wanting to try something different. I thought if I could buy the bike, a pipe, suspension setup, and...

Money's not really the issue, I was kinda wanting to try something different. I thought if I could buy the bike, a pipe, suspension setup, and yellow wheels (RMZ's are the best looking bikes with yellow wheels imo) for around the same price as the new yz I'd be pretty happy. Obviously I wouldn't want to do that if it was taking a huge step backwards but I figured all the modern bikes are good enough for 95% of us

I say do it for the one simple reason you mentioned , wanting to try something different . The fact money isn’t the issue is a bonus ….Most people do suspension or Atleast springs regardless of brand ….

You may love the Suzuki , but you won’t know unless you give it a try . 
We all do this for the fun of it so the excitement of trying a new bike that doesn’t get the praises of the others sounds like a lot of fun in itself . 

I don’t race anymore but have owned plenty of different brands and personally like the Suzukis . 
 

$6k sounds like a crazy good deal imo…
 

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Post a pic of the new ride!

 

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