KTM Shift lever bolt

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Lost the bolt that holds the shift lever on my KTM 150SX yesterday mid moto. Do any of yall use blue loctite to keep this from happening? Costing me 19.00 to get a new tiny azz replacement bolt. Of course ,no riding till I get it replaced. I ordered 2 just in case. 

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3/28/2024 11:29am

Make sure the nordlock washers are used and I also use loctite as well as safety wiring the bolt

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3/28/2024 11:32am

Make sure the nordlock washers are used and I also use loctite as well as safety wiring the bolt

Cool, havent thought about safety wiring. As for the washers , i dont think the bolts i ordered come with them. Ill see if i can find some to get beforehand . Thx

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3/28/2024 12:17pm

Blue Loc-Tite helps, so do those Nord-Lock "washers".

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3/28/2024 4:04pm

I’ve always used just a hint of red on my 125SX, but I’m sure blue would be just fine. 
 

How’d 2 bolts and two washers cost you $19?

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3/28/2024 7:00pm
Rickyisms wrote:
I’ve always used just a hint of red on my 125SX, but I’m sure blue would be just fine.    How’d 2 bolts and two washers...

I’ve always used just a hint of red on my 125SX, but I’m sure blue would be just fine. 
 

How’d 2 bolts and two washers cost you $19?

Probably $6 for the hardware and $13 for shipping or something like that...

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3/28/2024 8:09pm

Blue loctite is useless on that bolt, when the engine gets up to operating temperature, blue will turn back into almost a liquid. I use a small drop of red and it works perfect and the bolt is still removable,

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3/28/2024 10:16pm Edited Date/Time 3/28/2024 10:18pm
XC706 wrote:
Blue loctite is useless on that bolt, when the engine gets up to operating temperature, blue will turn back into almost a liquid. I use a...

Blue loctite is useless on that bolt, when the engine gets up to operating temperature, blue will turn back into almost a liquid. I use a small drop of red and it works perfect and the bolt is still removable,

I disagree with that statement on temperature performance.

Henkel claims that their 242 product (Blue LocTite) Service Temperature: -65°F (-54°C) to 300°F (149°C)

Henkel claims that their 271 product (Red LocTite) Service Temperature: -65°F (-54°C) to 300°F (149°C)

Sources:
Blue Technical Datasheet:

https://dm.henkel-dam.com/is/content/henkel/TDS-209728-US-Loctite-Threadlocker-Blue-242-Carded-Tube-0.20-fl-oz-2018-04-09pdf


Red Technical Datasheet:
https://dm.henkel-dam.com/is/content/henkel/TDS-209741-US-Loctite-Threadlocker-Red-271-Carded-Tube-0.20-fl-oz-2018-04-09pdf

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I safety wire mine. Drill a small hole through the head of the bolt, and then another through the corner of the shifter, and wire it up. Got tired of dealing with this and now it's no longer a concern.

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3/29/2024 1:14pm
KHNC wrote:
Lost the bolt that holds the shift lever on my KTM 150SX yesterday mid moto. Do any of yall use blue loctite to keep this from...

Lost the bolt that holds the shift lever on my KTM 150SX yesterday mid moto. Do any of yall use blue loctite to keep this from happening? Costing me 19.00 to get a new tiny azz replacement bolt. Of course ,no riding till I get it replaced. I ordered 2 just in case. 

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Solve that Problem that  way years Ago  , never again a loose Shift Lever Since 10 Years 

 

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3/29/2024 2:36pm

I had to drill my bolt and saftey wire on my 150. I also did my engine bolts.  For some reason, I lost one of each and said "no more".

 

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3/31/2024 11:56am

Yeah, that bolt is a mandatory drill-and-safety-wire spot. 100% mandatory. Same as you, I lost one once years ago and have wired it ever since. 

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4/1/2024 10:38am Edited Date/Time 4/1/2024 10:38am
Rickyisms wrote:
I’ve always used just a hint of red on my 125SX, but I’m sure blue would be just fine.    How’d 2 bolts and two washers...

I’ve always used just a hint of red on my 125SX, but I’m sure blue would be just fine. 
 

How’d 2 bolts and two washers cost you $19?

To start with the KTM dealer only had titanium for 22.00!! Said no thanks lol. Ordered from Racetech at 7.19 each plus shipping. But at least this way I have two of them. Supposed to arrive today. Still cant figure out what a nord lock washer is either. Smile

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KHNC wrote:
Lost the bolt that holds the shift lever on my KTM 150SX yesterday mid moto. Do any of yall use blue loctite to keep this from...

Lost the bolt that holds the shift lever on my KTM 150SX yesterday mid moto. Do any of yall use blue loctite to keep this from happening? Costing me 19.00 to get a new tiny azz replacement bolt. Of course ,no riding till I get it replaced. I ordered 2 just in case. 

  Solve that Problem that  way years Ago  , never again a loose Shift Lever Since 10 Years   

CD425C1D-FB4C-42B6-8597-1ED9764ABF49

F93DAD08-A411-4336-B5A4-F49ED0071659

A8653422-EF61-4927-97E3-C64FB474C1BD
 

Solve that Problem that  way years Ago  , never again a loose Shift Lever Since 10 Years 

 

So what is that called , and more importantly, where do you get one? 

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The stock setup uses the Nordlock washers.  It's a pair of washers that has interfacing serrations to prevent it from backing off.  FWIW, I've never had the stock setup come loose on any of many Austrian bikes I've dealt with.

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FGR01 wrote:
The stock setup uses the Nordlock washers.  It's a pair of washers that has interfacing serrations to prevent it from backing off.  FWIW, I've never had...

The stock setup uses the Nordlock washers.  It's a pair of washers that has interfacing serrations to prevent it from backing off.  FWIW, I've never had the stock setup come loose on any of many Austrian bikes I've dealt with.

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Thank You!
 

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4/4/2024 7:36pm

I definitely use thread locker on those bolts.  Make sure you spray some brake cleaner on there to get the threads nice and clean before.  I gotta look into the safety wire as well because losing that would be a rough day.

 

Just recently lost my oil fill cap.  Luckily it was a 2 stroke, but I'm looking into adding safety wire on a few spots now.

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4/4/2024 7:45pm

Lol been there done that, lost a shifter 2 laps into an XC race, stuck in second gear. Did 3 more laps revving the absolute piss out of my bike. I just use red loctite on that bolt now and a new OEM shifter. Hasnt came off since. 

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CodyC wrote:
I definitely use thread locker on those bolts.  Make sure you spray some brake cleaner on there to get the threads nice and clean before.  I...

I definitely use thread locker on those bolts.  Make sure you spray some brake cleaner on there to get the threads nice and clean before.  I gotta look into the safety wire as well because losing that would be a rough day.

 

Just recently lost my oil fill cap.  Luckily it was a 2 stroke, but I'm looking into adding safety wire on a few spots now.

I figured out the Hinson clutch cover that KTM sells for the 250f puts the stock oil fill cap in a position that it gets kicked loose for me. I switched to a Ride Engineering plug that is much lower profile and it is staying tight for now.

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4/5/2024 8:16am

Got the nord lock washers and blue loctite. Put a Tusk lever on and seems to be good to go!! 

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CodyC wrote:
I definitely use thread locker on those bolts.  Make sure you spray some brake cleaner on there to get the threads nice and clean before.  I...

I definitely use thread locker on those bolts.  Make sure you spray some brake cleaner on there to get the threads nice and clean before.  I gotta look into the safety wire as well because losing that would be a rough day.

 

Just recently lost my oil fill cap.  Luckily it was a 2 stroke, but I'm looking into adding safety wire on a few spots now.

wrc777 wrote:
I figured out the Hinson clutch cover that KTM sells for the 250f puts the stock oil fill cap in a position that it gets kicked...

I figured out the Hinson clutch cover that KTM sells for the 250f puts the stock oil fill cap in a position that it gets kicked loose for me. I switched to a Ride Engineering plug that is much lower profile and it is staying tight for now.

Ouch, that isn't a fun way to find out lol.   Definitely one to watch out for.  I bought a couple of the power parts ones to use on the stock cover so I'm curious to see if they work any better.

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