Loretta Lynn’s Vet Classes

I didn't read through all of the likely BS in this thread, but the current class structure is fine.   There are 2 classes were you can dodge the former factory guys.   Beyond that there is a level of exclusiveness to Loretta's there makes it cool.  Like making it to the gate really means something to a lot of riders.  I raced there as a kid and as a vet guy have given it a shot couple times and between injuries and some bad luck just haven't been able to put it together.   I really don't think that some people understand the training and overall discipline that everyday working people put themselves through all year long just for a chance at this race.  If I can ever make it again it will be a very emotional moment and that's how it should be. 

There are races like the Mini O's that are open to anyone, so stop bitching and line up at one of the stacked races that's open to anyone and see what you got.

https://mxsports.com/supplemental-rules

Lays that part out right up front.

Aaron, i PM'd ya not to clutter this, but as many know, i cant just ignore a post like this entirely lol.. (shut up lungbutt, its like when a dude says he killed a 190 but never had it measured. I cant not post lol). 

The ONLY post ill make in here incase anyone that actually matters reads this. (Because in reality, most posting are as irrelevant as the Kardashians but have a couch potato opinion).. This is my opinion, and i respect that it may differ from yours. This is a place to discuss opinion about the sport we all love. I promise lung, don, whoever else, i won't reply anymore in this thread after this. 

MxSports should consider this. Then when they get nasty hate posts and emails from the ex pros (like two years ago), this time I hope they dont reneg. 

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+25 vet pro - Anyone who has made the fast 40.

All other vet classes, call them sportsman, but sportsman needs refined to simply state "anyone who has made the fast 40 since the standardization of data collection, is ineligible for sportsman classes. 

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This gives vet pros a place as a first class, then their second class could be pro sport or A. 

You CANT use the pro license as a defining factor. They handed those things out like candy in the early 2000s and many people i know bought them just to get credentials, not because they ever thought theyd make a main. All it used to take was an ama district officials signature. So again, no way you could use that as a determining factor. 

Once a rider develops a professional skillset, and got paid to enhance that skillset any way possible, he doesnt ever lose it. To make a fast 40, youve done built an incredible skill set that far surpasses 99% of racers. The ex pro only loses stamina and fitness, not skill. So, THEY are the ones who need told "work harder (again) to go faster", while the rest of us bust our asses after a 10 hour day of a physically demanding job, just to try to stay fit to better their on track abilities. Its the epitome of sand bagging for monetary gain and continuation of fame. 

I completely respect the pros and their ability. I just dont think a professional trainer like Brown should be "racing" against dudes who never even came close to touching a national gate, even tho they worked their asses off to try. The sportsman 30 champ 2 years ago raced almost a dozen pro nationals. Lol. Tiger woods isnt hitting the regional golf matches. Lebron isnt going to drop back to play. Its just another reason our sport will never be mainstream. When my cousin who knows our sport but doesn't follow it much asks why the hell im lining up with Alessi in Daytona at amature day, you know "outsiders"  are sayin wth. 

These guys in question should have Vet Pro+25 and Pro sport at Lorettas and all the other "vet nationals" in their age A classes. Then all the "id love to race (get lapped n see said pro for 3 seconds) with "so n so"  old pros, could race their age A class with them. I find it super weird an adult man gets their rocks off by lining up with and getting smoked by an ex pro. Meanwhile, ill ride my age B class (actual equivalent to guys who never raced pro) and actually have battles with people of the same skill level. Even if they made this change, I wouldnt be a front runner at lorettas, so this suggestion is not even to benefit "me". I dont need another Lorettas trophy to make my life complete. 

Ok, ill shut up.. Thumbs down away ex pro ball washers. Lol. 

Bro I've been beating this horse for years.  There isn't a single amateur vet class.  Anybody that has raced pro at any level should have their own class.  You look at a regional and it's all dudes that have raced pro at some level.

Actually if you look it flips on a regular basis, it has nothing to do with what industry guys want to ride at the ranch.  This shit comes up every year, go faster and qualify or sit at home and watch the webcast.  People are so soft these days

If they'd just add 10 different vet D classes for morans on electric bikes only, maybe I could make it this year if the ex A sandbaggers don't ruin it! Mitch Payton will be standing and making it rain $100 bills on our old fat asses!

I don't think it's the Vet local A riders that benefit most.  It's the guys that are B/C riders who don't have a single class right now.  Not guys that think they are going to win a title but guys that just want a class to have a fair shot at going.  I'd just like to go for the experience with my family but there is no chance in hell right now with the class structure.  I don't knock the dudes that still want to race but anyone that has raced at a pro level should be in a separate class.  It would bring in a lot more entries because Vet guys are pretty realistic about their speed.  We pretty much all know where our speed is.  We all know it's the same dudes that try and qualify every year and 90% of them have rode pro at some level.  Knowing this everybody just stops even thinking about trying to qualify.  I just don't see how MXSports doesn't see how there is not a single amateur vet class.    Basically I agree with Meister.

LL isn’t for everyone. It’s for the best of best. If you want the experience because it looks “fun” then LL isn’t for you. If you can’t make it, sorry. I can’t either lol

The best of the best is pro motocross this is amateur racing.  

There are a lot more kids trying and not making it than Vets. Just sayin'...

Kicking anyone out of Vet A classes who has had a pro card is just too much. Hell, one of the last local races I went to it would've wiped out half the 30A field. A lot of people have had their pro card but never scored a point, and even then there's a guy or two who have scored points but still get beat by those who haven't and those who never had their pro card. They're human just like you, go faster.

Who exactly in these results do you feel is cheating you out of a gate and a fair race?  

2023 Loretta Lynn's - Vet (30+)** - The Loretta Lynn's Vault - Amateur Motocross Results (racerxonline.com)

2023 Loretta Lynn's - Senior (45+)** - The Loretta Lynn's Vault - Amateur Motocross Results (racerxonline.com)