OFFICIAL!!! James Stewart in for the Nationals

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500guy wrote:
On and on Stewart is awesome Cairoli is too. about AC vs RV at Matterly one was a seasoned Champ the other a rookie. but that...
On and on

Stewart is awesome Cairoli is too. about AC vs RV at Matterly one was a seasoned Champ the other a rookie. but that was one of the most brilliant races I've ever seen only the Everts , Stewart race topped it.
exactly they are all awesome they are all of similar ability, that is why James or RV would not automatically win a GP title, or vice versa because it is totally different.
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THEGOAT wrote:
Just got some insider information, Bubba's in and you heard it here firstSmile
I disagree.The rider that wins the MXDN in their respective class with the best ET is a world champ.
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They did have races in America but the fans where to arrogant to turn up.

Americans got smoked last year individually... do you think Tedesco is better than Reed or Cairoli becaue he won the MXDN even though he lost every race he entered?! A country team race does not decide who the best individual rider in the world is.

The GPs are the only fair comparison it is over 15 rounds and different countries and Cairoli is Champion hence he has the title of best in the World.
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THEGOAT wrote:
Just got some insider information, Bubba's in and you heard it here firstSmile
Cygnus wrote:
I disagree.The rider that wins the MXDN in their respective class with the best ET is a world champ.
Not really a GP line up is alot deeper than a MXDN class line up, a lot of top GP riders don't race the MXDN, plus the top 450 riders are split into MX1 and MX3 in the GPs etc they all race together.

The rider that wins the World championship is the best in the World. It is alot harder to win a 15 round World championship that a one off race.

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Nope, the rider that wins the AMA championship is the best in the world.Wink
3/18/2010 3:55pm
mccread wrote:
They did have races in America but the fans where to arrogant to turn up. Americans got smoked last year individually... do you think Tedesco is...
They did have races in America but the fans where to arrogant to turn up.

Americans got smoked last year individually... do you think Tedesco is better than Reed or Cairoli becaue he won the MXDN even though he lost every race he entered?! A country team race does not decide who the best individual rider in the world is.

The GPs are the only fair comparison it is over 15 rounds and different countries and Cairoli is Champion hence he has the title of best in the World.
It was a "B" team remember?
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3/18/2010 3:56pm
mccread wrote:
They did have races in America but the fans where to arrogant to turn up. Americans got smoked last year individually... do you think Tedesco is...
They did have races in America but the fans where to arrogant to turn up.

Americans got smoked last year individually... do you think Tedesco is better than Reed or Cairoli becaue he won the MXDN even though he lost every race he entered?! A country team race does not decide who the best individual rider in the world is.

The GPs are the only fair comparison it is over 15 rounds and different countries and Cairoli is Champion hence he has the title of best in the World.
Missing my point....mccread, they currently do not run a race in america therefore there is no world champ. Once the GP's run a race in america and a non american rider consistently beats the americans then you can say the person that wins the series is world champ. Like I said, there is no world champ let it go man
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3/18/2010 3:56pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 9:29pm
mccread wrote:
Not really a GP line up is alot deeper than a MXDN class line up, a lot of top GP riders don't race the MXDN, plus...
Not really a GP line up is alot deeper than a MXDN class line up, a lot of top GP riders don't race the MXDN, plus the top 450 riders are split into MX1 and MX3 in the GPs etc they all race together.

The rider that wins the World championship is the best in the World. It is alot harder to win a 15 round World championship that a one off race.
You have to have smoked about 10 pounds of crack to come up with all of that "FAIL"!

The AMA US Nationals has the best AND the most talent in it.
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So-n-So is the Best...Blah, Blah, Blah...

MXoN resolves this argument: Dungey.

Done.

Btw, does a person REALLY want to go ranting that the GPs are truly the "Fastest" crowd in MX?

Really?

Then there's the blather about R.V. and "who's" beat him and when...

Again...

MXoN...R.V. on a KX250F.

Remember the results? That lil' fact can't be changed.

SO, bring on the blather...yada, yada, yada.

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3/18/2010 4:02pm
mccread wrote:
Not really a GP line up is alot deeper than a MXDN class line up, a lot of top GP riders don't race the MXDN, plus...
Not really a GP line up is alot deeper than a MXDN class line up, a lot of top GP riders don't race the MXDN, plus the top 450 riders are split into MX1 and MX3 in the GPs etc they all race together.

The rider that wins the World championship is the best in the World. It is alot harder to win a 15 round World championship that a one off race.
Racer111 wrote:
You have to have smoked about 10 pounds of crack to come up with all of that "FAIL"! The AMA US Nationals has the best AND...
You have to have smoked about 10 pounds of crack to come up with all of that "FAIL"!

The AMA US Nationals has the best AND the most talent in it.
Someone say crack?


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mccread wrote:
They did have races in America but the fans where to arrogant to turn up. Americans got smoked last year individually... do you think Tedesco is...
They did have races in America but the fans where to arrogant to turn up.

Americans got smoked last year individually... do you think Tedesco is better than Reed or Cairoli becaue he won the MXDN even though he lost every race he entered?! A country team race does not decide who the best individual rider in the world is.

The GPs are the only fair comparison it is over 15 rounds and different countries and Cairoli is Champion hence he has the title of best in the World.
"They did have races in America but the fans where to arrogant to turn up."


or maybe they are just not that interested in the minor leagues of mx ? all the fast guys from the gp's end up racing in ama anyways ... so they can just watch them then .
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3/18/2010 4:32pm
mccread wrote:
The arrogance of some Americans is unbelievable...an interesting fact is In the only straight up race they did AC beat RV. All the other races AC...
The arrogance of some Americans is unbelievable...an interesting fact is In the only straight up race they did AC beat RV. All the other races AC had mechanical or crashes.

Cairoli is the World Champion not Stewart or RV. Cairoli is officialy the best in the world... it is up to the American riders to prove themselves individually the best in the World outdoors by racing the GPs until then they will just be the best in their own country.. if they can even win that.

No world title for 16 years speaks volumes at their ability and desire to race outside their own country against the best in the world in a neutral environment. Americans take the easier way out by not racing the World GPs. That is why I have alot of respect for any US rider that steps up and races outside his own country.

AC had a faster best lap time than RC at Budds Creek. RV is not another level ahead of AC nor is AC a level ahead of RV, they are similar just like most riders at that level. eg BT ran with RV in 2007.

James has never won the overall at the nations... he has only completed 3 seasons in 7 he competed outdoors. The stats indicatae he would do well to complete a GP season over 14 different countries and different terrain., all while living in a foreign country- that is tough. His raw speed may be fastest but the GP season is long and they race Saturday and Sunday. I don't think James or RV would be on another level if they rode the World Championship but they would be contenders.

All top riders in the GPs and AMA are a similar level no-one is a level ahead of anyone, top US riders are no better than top riders from other countries... they are all similar. Nationality does not make you superior. RV, James, Cairoli, Pourcel, BT, Desalle,Dungey, Alessi, Nagl and more are all of a similar abiltity. Mike Alessi just got beat there was nothing wrong and none of the riders were 100% Mike has never won outside of America.

If he was racing those guys in the US he would have been closer to the front. All riders go fastest in their own country.



At the risk of seeming arrogant,,,,, RV is on another level right now. Wether you believe it or not makes zero difference to me.
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Excellent news!! I'll be happy to see Bubba getting smoked by another Red Head outdoors this Summer.
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I thought this thread was about James Stewart racing motocross. Maybe it should have read "Which championship is better...." Unsure Unsure
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Dirt_Dawg wrote:
james aint racing no nationals, hes scared to race RV.
yeaa ok dawg, cuz Villi taunts Stewart.... get the fahhhck outta here
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i feel bad for the young american fans.........they really dont have the chance to understand motocross as a world wide sport, and also what is the real top level bikes that every body calls "works"......
the older us fans saw works bikes and teams and got the chance to live true world wide races in usa, even had the pleasure to live the hype of us riders winning the world of mx........
younger fans just get to see production based bikes, missing out on that one of a kind technology that sometimes you get to see on your bikes......after 2 or 3 years, and cuz of that they cant understand what makes cairoli race for the ktm factory right ot of the factory back door and not show interest to cross the pound......
they also think that the mxdn races can show for what would be like being at the time where the all the best mx riders in the world raced around the world, usa included......when they raced for themselves and their bike brand, as they dont understand what the diference it makes when they race for their national team after a year of touring the world and living abroad.........
i didnt had the chance to live that , but was always looking for information from who did, so i could understand the sport i love, and when the net came it became a lot easyer to find that information............to bad most young american fans are to "proud" to learn and all that they know is to do whatever they can to make belive, even to themselves, that what they see and know has to be the best in the world...... no matter what........and most times they end up making a foul out of themselves trying to talk about things that they really dont have a clue......
you see the "rest of the world" fans here, they know about mx, even the american mx, and can see the diferences that all diferent cultures put in on what they do, they get informed about all races and racers, bikes and teams, and have favorites all over......
unfortnatly young americans only see "stars and stripes" and dont even show any respect for whatever.......
too bad they cant even see that it really is their lost....!!!!!!!!!!!
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3/18/2010 4:56pm Edited Date/Time 3/18/2010 5:00pm
WOW bud, I don't even know what to say to that, other than I'm pumped and super stoked to be a 24 yr old white 'young american'. Your a dumbass, that was a bad post. Why do I have a feeling that Bubba is chillin' and outdoors will be another run for him. I just dont see that dude going slower, do you....? And what about RV 1st 450 full season (hopefully), yaya Dungey too. I pretty much just gave up on SX and called RV winner. Pourcel to 450 outdoor?
3/18/2010 5:00pm Edited Date/Time 3/18/2010 5:00pm
I think the young american fans are lucky to be able to see the best racing in the world live, on tv live or next day.
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Don't worry guys. Riley and mccread are both infected with the "hate america first" bug. We've been seeing it for a long time. I think mccread just hit the juice a lot harder than normal tonight.
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"Team Green" Do you have that much "INSIDE INFORMATION" that you really knew WHAT decision Ricky made! Also, what makes you think that James is hiding behind his parents...Team.. ETC......REALLY!!!! I'm, keeping it REAL!!!! ARE YOU THAT FLY ON THE WALL I TRIED TO KILLED THE OTHER DAY????????
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Mccread, you're from Ireland, right? Or is it another British territory? I forget.

But what I do remember distinctly from my time living in Europe is northern Europe's contempt and outright disdain for southern Europeans, especially Italians (although the Greeks are getting pretty high on the list... And Riley, they don't think much of Portugal or Spain either).

So, now you embrace an Italian champion as your own? How many of you didn't even want them in the EU? (and yes, I know GB still uses the pound).

Basically, you hate America. We get it. So much that you'll cheer an Italian whom you'd rather not exist, over any American in any sport. Is this the gist?

Maybe you not personally, don't know ya that way. But I know your continent first hand. Smile
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3/18/2010 8:20pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 9:30pm
According to this weeks interview out for supercross and maybe race a few nationals. Link here:

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THEGOAT wrote:
Just got some insider information, Bubba's in and you heard it here firstSmile
So let me get this straight, according to your "logic", if some sanctioned body of sports authority decided they wanted to make a football league in europe and name it the world championships, that would automatically make it the real world championship and the more prestigious league to win? hmmm.. now think basketball with no lebron or kobe. still the "world championships", and since its a bunch of countries instead of one it has to be the better of the two, logically.

You can stay concerned with your names, while we'll stay proud of the ama because of the talent. And yeah, most of them happen to be americans.
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MOTOXMO wrote:
Excellent news!! I'll be happy to see Bubba getting smoked by another Red Head outdoors this Summer.
You're higher than Eagle pussy....
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MOTOXMO wrote:
Excellent news!! I'll be happy to see Bubba getting smoked by another Red Head outdoors this Summer.
Big Lenny wrote:
You're higher than Eagle pussy....
That's pretty fuggin high!
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MOTOXMO wrote:
Excellent news!! I'll be happy to see Bubba getting smoked by another Red Head outdoors this Summer.
Big Lenny wrote:
You're higher than Eagle pussy....
I hate to say this but you are right Big Lenny....stewart won't get smoked by RV this summer.....Just not possible for RV to smoke somebody that is sitting at home watching everybody else race on the TV!
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MOTOXMO wrote:
Excellent news!! I'll be happy to see Bubba getting smoked by another Red Head outdoors this Summer.
Big Lenny wrote:
You're higher than Eagle pussy....
Matt#49 wrote:
I hate to say this but you are right Big Lenny....stewart won't get smoked by RV this summer.....Just not possible for RV to smoke somebody that...
I hate to say this but you are right Big Lenny....stewart won't get smoked by RV this summer.....Just not possible for RV to smoke somebody that is sitting at home watching everybody else race on the TV!
You must be his wingman...
3/19/2010 12:44am
there's nothing "official" about any of this thread....seriously.


hope james rides at least a few rounds so we can all re-align the benchmarks.
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rileymx wrote:
i feel bad for the young american fans.........they really dont have the chance to understand motocross as a world wide sport, and also what is the...
i feel bad for the young american fans.........they really dont have the chance to understand motocross as a world wide sport, and also what is the real top level bikes that every body calls "works"......
the older us fans saw works bikes and teams and got the chance to live true world wide races in usa, even had the pleasure to live the hype of us riders winning the world of mx........
younger fans just get to see production based bikes, missing out on that one of a kind technology that sometimes you get to see on your bikes......after 2 or 3 years, and cuz of that they cant understand what makes cairoli race for the ktm factory right ot of the factory back door and not show interest to cross the pound......
they also think that the mxdn races can show for what would be like being at the time where the all the best mx riders in the world raced around the world, usa included......when they raced for themselves and their bike brand, as they dont understand what the diference it makes when they race for their national team after a year of touring the world and living abroad.........
i didnt had the chance to live that , but was always looking for information from who did, so i could understand the sport i love, and when the net came it became a lot easyer to find that information............to bad most young american fans are to "proud" to learn and all that they know is to do whatever they can to make belive, even to themselves, that what they see and know has to be the best in the world...... no matter what........and most times they end up making a foul out of themselves trying to talk about things that they really dont have a clue......
you see the "rest of the world" fans here, they know about mx, even the american mx, and can see the diferences that all diferent cultures put in on what they do, they get informed about all races and racers, bikes and teams, and have favorites all over......
unfortnatly young americans only see "stars and stripes" and dont even show any respect for whatever.......
too bad they cant even see that it really is their lost....!!!!!!!!!!!
Finally someone who shows some intelligence! Thanks for that rileymx!
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This thread has turned into some silly GP vs ama as usually. Lot's of guys in here behave like childs. My dad is stronger than your dad etc

All the riders you mention are pretty well paid professionals. They do this for a living.
They don't care too much abot who is really faster, they care about getting paid, stayning healthy and to be able to make lot's of money for themselfes and their beloved ones.

They don't need us to fight a war for them and motivate their ranking on the world stage.
If they ride the gp's they want to do their teams happy and make lot's of bonus money
If they ride the AMA they're able to make even more money in SX and because of that, that serie is even more important to them.

You guys in here should worry about your own carrers instead. These guys don't need your help. They don't give a damn about us or which serie is the better. They just wan't to make a lot of money.

Can't we spend our time bragging about ourselfes instead? Maybe your life is so miserable that you have to live through RV,AC,JS7 instead. That's allright with me but pretty tragic in someways. It doesn't make it right to offend others around here in order to defend imaginary friends like highpaid professionals.

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