It's dead in Daytona

yota wrote:

I've lived in orlando for a long time and have seen bike week evolve into a harley poser fest over the last 10 years. back in...

I've lived in orlando for a long time and have seen bike week evolve into a harley poser fest over the last 10 years. back in the 70's/early 80's it was a good mix of motorcyclist types and was pretty fun, now its a waste. One of my friends dragged me over there the other day and as we walked around the speedway I was looking at the posers in black. 98% of them were wearing their uniform, black harley tees with leather chaps and engineer boots and there were no wear marks on the chaps and boots, most looked like new. They buy these 25K pcs of chit and pull them out twice a year, bike week and biketoberfest. many do not even ride to daytona, they trailer there and parade around town. a few you can tell are real riders and I respect that even though I cannot stand the harley thing.

why is it that the harley people get away with straight pipes that blow your ears out but if you have a loud sport bike or car the cops are all over you?

wreckitrandy wrote:

Trickle down economics?

Rupert X wrote:

There's no bikes because all the dealerships dissolved. There's no cars because they were all recalled. There's no riders because Erin Bates is interviewing them all...

There's no bikes because all the dealerships dissolved.

There's no cars because they were all recalled.

There's no riders because Erin Bates is interviewing them all.

Everybody else is busy with American Idol.

* I've been hectic - cataloging my extensive collection of crystal giraffe figurines

and learning some steamy salsa dance moves. And MX Reflex.

BDOG wrote:

never know it by the room rates

motogrady wrote:

I know a lot of the Roadrace fans are pissed at the DMG thing. It's like the hardcore fans of pavement don't want anything to do...

I know a lot of the Roadrace fans are pissed at the DMG thing.
It's like the hardcore fans of pavement don't want anything to do with the new regime.

slowvet wrote:

Word. DMG single handedly killed road racing in america.

motogrady wrote:

I know a lot of the Roadrace fans are pissed at the DMG thing. It's like the hardcore fans of pavement don't want anything to do...

I know a lot of the Roadrace fans are pissed at the DMG thing.
It's like the hardcore fans of pavement don't want anything to do with the new regime.

slowvet wrote:

Word. DMG single handedly killed road racing in america.

motogrady wrote:

It's a shame, but it's not like it's over. From what I understand the 200 is a big thing to those in Europe. Ducati want's it...

It's a shame, but it's not like it's over. From what I understand the 200 is
a big thing to those in Europe. Ducati want's it bad, something like 8 teams
showing up. John Hopkins (of motogp) is running, Ben Bostrum is back
on a Yamaha, Tommy Hayden rides his Rockstar Suzuki out of the same
Yoshimura garage Dungey does. Yates is back with Jordan's National Guard
Team. And rumor has someone running a 1125 Buell.

They say the only good thing about last year was the racing.
Hopefully, things will settle down and Roadracing in America will take off.

GuppyGahoo wrote:

Good racing doesn't bring fans into a series, good promotion does. Look at flat track, hands down the best bike racing on the planet, it should...

Good racing doesn't bring fans into a series, good promotion does. Look at flat track, hands down the best bike racing on the planet, it should be massively popular, but it's not. Supercross races could be 5 laps long, the results 90% of the time would be the same, and it's wildly popular in comparison to any other form of motorcycle racing.

What RR and FT are missing is a show. At the two SX's I went to this year my $40 ticket was satisfied by the end of opening ceremonies. At the one RR I've been to I'm 90% sure there was no such thing, and at a FT race its some old guy interviewing 2-3 riders. Woah! How exicting!!!

Your average Tom, Dick, and Harry don't care about racing, I think it's more about entertainment value. $75 to walk around Road America and see 1000ft of racetrack is a gigantic rip off. $40 to see an amazing opening ceremony, guys flying through the air and sometimes crashing hard is an excellent value. This is the same reason that SX will always be more popular than MX, you can't see everything at an MX event. Even people in the know are often left wondering who won. At the two MX races I went to last summer I can guarantee you I didn't know who finished 4th in both classes until after I got home. Sure the ticket prices are similar, but SX is a way better deal, even if it isn't as core. RR and MX events, to me, are mainly party events, that's their biggest draw.

Gunna cut myself off here, I need to go to work.