Weird Foot-Pegs At INDY SX

Rupert X
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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 5:50am


A few riders were trying out these new "Ankle-Savers" style foot-pegs at Indy.

I've got some pics of em...but I'll try to include them with a complete INDY SX

report later, but for now you can check 'em out at :

http://www.anklesavers.com/


Now break up into small groups and discuss these foot-pegs thoroughly, or at least

until insults fly.
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Chris_ONeal
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2/21/2010 4:08pm
Seems weird, I'd like to try them out.
loftyair
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2/21/2010 4:42pm
no good unless you 'need' them due to really bad ankles.
ASH510
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2/21/2010 4:49pm
i sanpped the left achilles tendon last march.
before i ride again i will buy a set i can see the
worth of them.
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2/21/2010 4:56pm
loftyair wrote:
no good unless you 'need' them due to really bad ankles.
So you have tried them?
What did you not like about them?

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My son has been running these pegs for a couple of months now.They have saved his ankles on more than 1 occasion.Tom Crain is the person that is producing them.
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2/21/2010 5:25pm
Looks like a good idea. I'd like to try them.
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2/21/2010 6:04pm
Are those two-stroke or four-stroke pegs?
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2/21/2010 6:19pm
ASH510 wrote:
i sanpped the left achilles tendon last march.
before i ride again i will buy a set i can see the
worth of them.
OMG!!!

That sounds nasty!!!

I like the idea for sure... Tho there could be an issue with draggin shit behind the pegs... Maybe they could do something similar without the loop, just to make sure it wouldn't catch rocks, sticks, other mx related crap...

Great thinking tho... I've got a bad ankle and am definitely interested!!!!
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2/21/2010 7:11pm
Havn't actually used these, a friend made something similiar back in late '80's, tried them then. Dragging in ruts, think Dungey at sx couple weeks ago, couple times caught the front of my big foot underneath them, almost crushed my foot and crashed hard. I'm just talking performance of not liking them. I mean they perform their function most likely they way you would want them to. But for serious racers and such, not good. If it's either these or not riding, then that's pretty easy decision.
2/21/2010 7:12pm
i started using these pegs this weekend, and you dont notice them unless you need them, they are probably the absolute best bolt on product i have ever used, they helped me tremendously in the whoops, tom crain has invented a great product with these ankle saver pegs, but dont let the name fool you, they help with alot more than just bad ankles trust me.
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He makes them for both.Sorry I didn't get to talk to you more.I tried to find you but I know you were busy on the floor.Cya in Atlanta.
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2/21/2010 7:26pm
They kinda remind me of those "Handicap bars" you see in the restrooms...
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Case a jump hard enough, and maybe you'll think twice about using them next time.
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2/22/2010 8:09am
I just happened to click a shot of Mr Moores footpeg while talking to him.

2/22/2010 8:26am
And Bubba complains that stock pegs are too wide. I remember him saying the AMA wouldn't allow him to run thinner pegs. He said even the "small" stock ones still get caught on the faces when he is scrubbing. Blink
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I was thinking that they may be good for the rider's ankles, but they are probably harder on the mechanic's shins...
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2/22/2010 10:59am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 8:56pm
My only question?
They don't seem like they'd fold up or in out of the way
when needed to do so & that could add in another
problem entirely........?
Dave O. Wink
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Ozzy wrote:
My only question? They don't seem like they'd fold up or in out of the way when needed to do so & that could add in...
My only question?
They don't seem like they'd fold up or in out of the way
when needed to do so & that could add in another
problem entirely........?
Dave O. Wink
Because they are on the trailing edge, I don't think that would be a problem for most guys. For a super scrubber like Bubba, less is more.
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Hi folks, Tom Crain here. The inventor of these foot pegs. I will be glad to answer all of your questions.
1) They passed tech at the Indy SX this week so they are legal. To do that they must fold back the entire 50 degrees as though they were stock. This is stated in teh AMA rules and the yare in compliance.

2) Does not matter if it is a two or four stroke. One note, they do stop the kickstart from going all of the way through the stroke. This feels a bit different, but your peg stops your kickstart anyway, and these pegs are on a bout 50 bikes right know from mini's to biggie's 2 and 4 stroke, carberated and fuel injected with no starting issues to date.

3) I built them to protect your ankles which they do! However, they do have a few performance enhancing characteristics (for some). In particularly, the pro's that are using them ar etelling me they love the min the whoops. I have one highly ranked national amature rider who loves them in the whoops and on the straits. Some however, never feel them unless they case a jump or get too far back on their toes.

4) So far I have had not one single negative coment from amyone using them. They meet the requirements for stock bikes as well. The AMA rules state that the pivot point cannot be lower than the frame or the crankcase, whichever is lower. They are in compliance with this rule as well.

5) The ankles-saver(tm)technology (simple as it may seem)is currently patent pending and the ankle-savers(tm) trademark is in arbitration. I manufactured the ankles-saver(tm) technology to stock foot pegs for the initial marketing, but am sold out. I will have original ankle-saver(tm) footpegs in the next couple of weeks for big bike Honda and Kawi's. I can retro fit mini's and others as shown on the website. We will have to make arrangements for Yamaha's and Suzuki's with Ti pegs at this time, however, they are coming as well. You can send me any steel peg and I will fit them for you. You can do it your self if you wish, but they ar eprotected by law so I respectfuly ask that you don't do it for others.

Please ask about anything and I will do my best to asnwer your questions or assist you in any way I can. Already making some for other East SX riders as we speak! They really do work guys. Protect those ankles so you cna keep on srubbingSmile

Regards,
Tom Crain
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Hi folks, Tom Crain here. The inventor of these foot pegs. I will be glad to answer all of your questions.
1) They passed tech at the Indy SX this week so they are legal. To do that they must fold back the entire 50 degrees as though they were stock. This is stated in the AMA rules and they are in compliance.

2) Does not matter if it is a two or four stroke. One note, they do stop the kickstart from going all of the way through the stroke. This feels a bit different, but your peg stops your kickstart anyway, and these pegs are on a bout 50 bikes right know from mini's to biggie's, 2 and 4 stroke, carberated and fuel injected with no starting issues to date.

3) I built them to protect your ankles which they do! However, they do have a few performance enhancing characteristics (for some). In particularl, the pro's that are using them are telling me they love them in the whoops. I have one highly ranked national amature rider who loves them in the whoops and on the straits. Some however, never feel them unless they case a jump or get too far back on their toes.

4) So far I have had not one single negative comment from amyone using them. They meet the requirements for stock bikes as well. The AMA rules state that the pivot point cannot be lower than the frame or the crankcase, whichever is lower. They are in compliance with this rule as well.

5) The ankles-saver(tm)technology (simple as it may seem)is currently patent pending and the ankle-savers(tm) trademark is in arbitration. I manufactured the ankles-saver(tm) technology to stock foot pegs for the initial marketing, but am sold out. I will have original ankle-saver(tm) footpegs in the next couple of weeks for big bike Honda and Kawi's. I can retro fit mini's and others as shown on the website. We will have to make arrangements for Yamaha's and Suzuki's with Ti pegs at this time, however, they are coming as well. You can send me any steel peg and I will fit them for you. You can do it your self if you wish, but they ar eprotected by law so I respectfuly ask that you don't do it for others.

Please ask about anything and I will do my best to asnwer your questions or assist you in any way I can. Already making some for other East SX riders as we speak! They really do work guys. Protect those ankles so you cna keep on srubbing

Regards,
Tom Crain
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For the love of God disable that annoying as hell automatic music track. UGH !

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Ick888 wrote:
Hi folks, Tom Crain here. The inventor of these foot pegs. I will be glad to answer all of your questions. 1) They passed tech at...
Hi folks, Tom Crain here. The inventor of these foot pegs. I will be glad to answer all of your questions.
1) They passed tech at the Indy SX this week so they are legal. To do that they must fold back the entire 50 degrees as though they were stock. This is stated in the AMA rules and they are in compliance.

2) Does not matter if it is a two or four stroke. One note, they do stop the kickstart from going all of the way through the stroke. This feels a bit different, but your peg stops your kickstart anyway, and these pegs are on a bout 50 bikes right know from mini's to biggie's, 2 and 4 stroke, carberated and fuel injected with no starting issues to date.

3) I built them to protect your ankles which they do! However, they do have a few performance enhancing characteristics (for some). In particularl, the pro's that are using them are telling me they love them in the whoops. I have one highly ranked national amature rider who loves them in the whoops and on the straits. Some however, never feel them unless they case a jump or get too far back on their toes.

4) So far I have had not one single negative comment from amyone using them. They meet the requirements for stock bikes as well. The AMA rules state that the pivot point cannot be lower than the frame or the crankcase, whichever is lower. They are in compliance with this rule as well.

5) The ankles-saver(tm)technology (simple as it may seem)is currently patent pending and the ankle-savers(tm) trademark is in arbitration. I manufactured the ankles-saver(tm) technology to stock foot pegs for the initial marketing, but am sold out. I will have original ankle-saver(tm) footpegs in the next couple of weeks for big bike Honda and Kawi's. I can retro fit mini's and others as shown on the website. We will have to make arrangements for Yamaha's and Suzuki's with Ti pegs at this time, however, they are coming as well. You can send me any steel peg and I will fit them for you. You can do it your self if you wish, but they ar eprotected by law so I respectfuly ask that you don't do it for others.

Please ask about anything and I will do my best to asnwer your questions or assist you in any way I can. Already making some for other East SX riders as we speak! They really do work guys. Protect those ankles so you cna keep on srubbing

Regards,
Tom Crain
Hi Tom...

Have you had any troubles with the loop in the saver catching debris?!? I ride enduro etc a bit and love the idea as I have a bad ankle, but it seems like it could be a fish hook for rocks, sticks, assorted trail crap!?!

Could you redo so they are more open at the back or less chance of catching rubbish?
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Crush,
To be honest, I don't think we have any experience in the woods yet. One thing to consider; they don't hang down as far as you think. They are not lower than the base of the main peg, and are certainly no lower than the frame. As well, they are cambered in slightly so that in a hard case the tendancy is to guide your ankles and knees in toward the bike vice out and sliding off. The patent allows for every imaginable angle, but our testing has shown that about 19 degrees is the most desireable to allow protection but still allow for a comfortable range of motion. Having said that, I have thought that woods riders might prefer less of an angle for more support more of the time. That would lessen the possibility for things to catch in it, but I would have to say it is still possible. Could build them without the loop, but that kind of scares me having to speers hanging out. That is also in the patent like several other possibilities, but I don't think I will ever build them that way for safety reasons. Another possibility is to use a lightweight underplate which I may do for the enduro folks. That would stop things from sticking in it, but would add wight. In my mind, that little bit of extra wt is not an issue, but may be to some. At any rate, always oipen to improving the product. Jsut a matter of what you, the customer, wants out of it.
Lastly, another question that may come up wrt to the kickstart. The patent also allows for a design that permits the kickstart to pass through. I may do that in the future as well, but it requires a little more engineering to make work properly. Since we are not having problems with the bikes starting, for now, simpler is betterSmile

Thanks for your question Sir, I hope this answers it.
Regards,
Tom
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site doesn't work?
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DrSweden wrote:
site doesn't work?
what he said
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I apologize for the site. Terrible timing I know. It is in work as we are uploading some recent interviews with some East Coast SX riders who were riding with them at an AX in batesville, MS. I know, I know, the music is generic so as not to infringe on anyone's copyright. Also, MXers here not actors so take it easy on me and my interviewing skillsSmile They are obviously admitedley WEAKSmile but doing what I can right now. Maybe some bigshots will come along and give me a hand!!!Smile Please don't let the growing pains for the site and video detract from the value of the pegs.
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I run the anklesaver pegs and to be honest I adsolutey love them !!
they have help me so much in the whoops and just the feel of having
more overall control of the bike when leaning back is unreal and for me control = speed!! guys these pegs are not just some fly by night
crap there the real deal tom has put alot of work in them and its
paying off!! when riding with them they feel like stock pegs untill
you lean back on them no way what so ever do they hamper your riding
I know the 1st time that I seen them on a bike i thought to myself
what in the world lol but after I trying them out it didnt take long
before I had a set on my bike ... Thanks Tom for a great peg that
offers so much!!!!
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Ick888 wrote:
Crush, To be honest, I don't think we have any experience in the woods yet. One thing to consider; they don't hang down as far as...
Crush,
To be honest, I don't think we have any experience in the woods yet. One thing to consider; they don't hang down as far as you think. They are not lower than the base of the main peg, and are certainly no lower than the frame. As well, they are cambered in slightly so that in a hard case the tendancy is to guide your ankles and knees in toward the bike vice out and sliding off. The patent allows for every imaginable angle, but our testing has shown that about 19 degrees is the most desireable to allow protection but still allow for a comfortable range of motion. Having said that, I have thought that woods riders might prefer less of an angle for more support more of the time. That would lessen the possibility for things to catch in it, but I would have to say it is still possible. Could build them without the loop, but that kind of scares me having to speers hanging out. That is also in the patent like several other possibilities, but I don't think I will ever build them that way for safety reasons. Another possibility is to use a lightweight underplate which I may do for the enduro folks. That would stop things from sticking in it, but would add wight. In my mind, that little bit of extra wt is not an issue, but may be to some. At any rate, always oipen to improving the product. Jsut a matter of what you, the customer, wants out of it.
Lastly, another question that may come up wrt to the kickstart. The patent also allows for a design that permits the kickstart to pass through. I may do that in the future as well, but it requires a little more engineering to make work properly. Since we are not having problems with the bikes starting, for now, simpler is betterSmile

Thanks for your question Sir, I hope this answers it.
Regards,
Tom
Hmmm... Yeah I get what you mean with the spears! haha.. Didn't even cross my mind, but there is so much debris in some of the places I ride, it's maybe an odd request...

I suppose a plate or even three bars running longways so there wasn't that space but would still let mud through etc might be the ticket, but then if they don't hang down to much it might not even be an issue...

Good work on designing something unique and new mate, I love it when Tech heads come up with this sorta stuff!
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Hey guys!Im a pro rider doing the East Coast series. I have ridden with these pegs for about 4 months now and I love them! I came up way short on a triple and Indy and didnt hurt my ankles one bit. That is the main purpose of the pegs is to save your ankles, but I also notice that I have more control in the whoops. The extension of the peg keeps my feet from being too far back and also allows my ankles to absorb less impact when im skimming them. I notice my bike using more of the suspension instead of my ankles doing more of the work. Its a great product and Im glad to have the opportunity to represent Anklesavers.com. Thanks Tom!!!
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2/23/2010 9:56am
And Bubba complains that stock pegs are too wide. I remember him saying the AMA wouldn't allow him to run thinner pegs. He said even the...
And Bubba complains that stock pegs are too wide. I remember him saying the AMA wouldn't allow him to run thinner pegs. He said even the "small" stock ones still get caught on the faces when he is scrubbing. Blink
I dont have that problem. I would like to give them a go. Maybe they are great for me, Maybe not? Dont know until. They look like they would help even on knees by keeping everything inline.

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