Help me understand the Jett hate.

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It doesn’t really have to make sense, that is life in the spotlight.    People still hate Metallica for kicking Mustaine out and that was 40...

It doesn’t really have to make sense, that is life in the spotlight. 
 

People still hate Metallica for kicking Mustaine out and that was 40 years ago. 

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I only hate Metallica for the black album and everything after

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As long as Jett's not listening to Rick Rubin, he's cool

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It doesn’t really have to make sense, that is life in the spotlight.    People still hate Metallica for kicking Mustaine out and that was 40...

It doesn’t really have to make sense, that is life in the spotlight. 
 

People still hate Metallica for kicking Mustaine out and that was 40 years ago. 

OldTech wrote:

I only hate Metallica for the black album and everything after

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Why is it that when a foreign rider does something fans don’t like it suddenly becomes “it’s because he’s not from America” I don’t seem to recall it being “because he IS from America” when alot of people were hating on Craig, Barcia, Friese, Forkner, Deegan or less recently Justin Cooper? I guess it’s only okay to call out a riders shit if you’re from the same country as them? 

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I don’t think those booers hate him as much as you think. Rooting for someone else to beat Jett is obvious to understand. He went 22 and zero outdoors….people don’t want to see him go 17 and zero indoors.  I don’t think people are hating on Jett as much as rooting for parody and excitement

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There is fuckall wrong with Jett acting his age. They make mistakes and learn from them.

Everyone sticking a endoscope up his arse and passing judgment might want to think twice. Are you actually better than him?

I have no doubt that he will mature and achieve a good living and retirement from his current profession.

Those of you who are losing sleep over Jetts current trajectory in life, please feel free to state your profession, age and what you have achieved.

Let's compare....

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2/2/2024 7:56am
Boomslang wrote:
There is fuckall wrong with Jett acting his age. They make mistakes and learn from them. Everyone sticking a endoscope up his arse and passing judgment...

There is fuckall wrong with Jett acting his age. They make mistakes and learn from them.

Everyone sticking a endoscope up his arse and passing judgment might want to think twice. Are you actually better than him?

I have no doubt that he will mature and achieve a good living and retirement from his current profession.

Those of you who are losing sleep over Jetts current trajectory in life, please feel free to state your profession, age and what you have achieved.

Let's compare....

To the first guy who downvoted me, let's hear you story? You got no balls you shameless bitch...

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Boomslang wrote:
There is fuckall wrong with Jett acting his age. They make mistakes and learn from them. Everyone sticking a endoscope up his arse and passing judgment...

There is fuckall wrong with Jett acting his age. They make mistakes and learn from them.

Everyone sticking a endoscope up his arse and passing judgment might want to think twice. Are you actually better than him?

I have no doubt that he will mature and achieve a good living and retirement from his current profession.

Those of you who are losing sleep over Jetts current trajectory in life, please feel free to state your profession, age and what you have achieved.

Let's compare....

Boomslang wrote:

To the first guy who downvoted me, let's hear you story? You got no balls you shameless bitch...

Calm down dude, it’s Friday. 

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Boomslang wrote:
There is fuckall wrong with Jett acting his age. They make mistakes and learn from them. Everyone sticking a endoscope up his arse and passing judgment...

There is fuckall wrong with Jett acting his age. They make mistakes and learn from them.

Everyone sticking a endoscope up his arse and passing judgment might want to think twice. Are you actually better than him?

I have no doubt that he will mature and achieve a good living and retirement from his current profession.

Those of you who are losing sleep over Jetts current trajectory in life, please feel free to state your profession, age and what you have achieved.

Let's compare....

This sums up the internet...

"Welcome to the jungle

It's worse here everyday

You learn to live like an animal

In the jungle where we play"

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Show me where this was said.

🤦‍♂️ really? 😂 Multiple threads on here were talking about how he was going to win every main event. And everyone else was just racing for second. The other thread about him beating McGraths record was after he won Anaheim 1. 

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Why is it that when a foreign rider does something fans don’t like it suddenly becomes “it’s because he’s not from America” I don’t seem to...

Why is it that when a foreign rider does something fans don’t like it suddenly becomes “it’s because he’s not from America” I don’t seem to recall it being “because he IS from America” when alot of people were hating on Craig, Barcia, Friese, Forkner, Deegan or less recently Justin Cooper? I guess it’s only okay to call out a riders shit if you’re from the same country as them? 

We’ll said 👏👏

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ando wrote:
The most disturbing thing about this topic is the number of grown men, most of whom are probably middle aged, who deeply dislike some stranger whom...

The most disturbing thing about this topic is the number of grown men, most of whom are probably middle aged, who deeply dislike some stranger whom they’ve never met (and most likely never will) and whose claim to fame is that he’s fast on a dirtbike.  The guy has zero impact on their lives in any meaningful way yet they dislike him enough to be critical of his personality, his family, his career goals etc.

If that’s not fucked up in some way or another I don’t know what is.

 

Don’t look so deeply into it 🤦‍♂️ smdh. 

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It doesn’t really have to make sense, that is life in the spotlight.    People still hate Metallica for kicking Mustaine out and that was 40...

It doesn’t really have to make sense, that is life in the spotlight. 
 

People still hate Metallica for kicking Mustaine out and that was 40 years ago. 

OldTech wrote:

I only hate Metallica for the black album and everything after

Fighting words

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I don't hate anyone let alone a young man as cool as Jett. I'm just a keyboard jockey looking to stir shit up. I think if not this year it is just a matter of time before Jett is THE guy on a 450. I just love watching the knuckleheads on this forum get bent out of shape when we criticize him. If he takes these "learning lessons" in stride he will be just fine Smile

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I just miss Old Mate and his pictures....

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MXMattii wrote:
A foreigner that is a real threat to the Americans on their home turf is very often disliked by them. Ask JMB, Pourcel, Reed, Ferrandis, Lawrence...

A foreigner that is a real threat to the Americans on their home turf is very often disliked by them. Ask JMB, Pourcel, Reed, Ferrandis, Lawrence brothers... Some are also just waiting till the "foreigner" puts one foot wrong to lynch him. Remember when Marvin Musquin did what KTM expected him to do, help Ryan Dungey to claim the SX Championship over Eli Tomac? From than on, even Marvin Musquin had haters.

So to sum it up, he's a foreigner who's a real threat for championships the coming years. Than you've the fact that FELD together with his agent Lucas Mirtl are trying to make him the new RC, Stewart, McGrath... annoys people. But they need to know that someone with the poster boy quality, who also wants to be the poster boy of the sport isn't found easily. We didn't saw Tomac, Sexton, Anderson step up for example. For most people is one of those two reasons enough. But if they aren't enough you can combine them with that stupid farce against Jason Anderson, and how he personally made it worse with unfollowing Jason Anderson, while his crew already handled the situation.

But in dutch we've a saying that goes as followed: If you are willing to beat the dog, you will always find a tool to do it. What I mean is: When you are an American SX & MX fan who has an American favorite, you don't need much to dislike, hate or even bash Jett Lawrence.

Spoonguy wrote:

See what you mean, people hate Roczen too.

Roczen, Musquin, Reed are just a few of the most loved riders.    . 

Of course, there are always people who dislike someone, but the "they're foreign" excuse holds zero water for the vast majority.

 

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Putting any hate on JL18 is erroneous, on the other riders is imprudent.  The teams, bikes, track, "Feld" all a fool's errand.  Place the hate/blame where it belongs...moto-journalism.   Happy Friday ML512!!

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  Here you go, DB explains it well I think.
 

Here you go, DB explains it well I think.

dsc131 wrote:

You nailed it!!!

For the lazy people...go straight to the 2:50 mark.  

That does cover it pretty damn good.    Though, I don't think he put enough emphasis on the 24/7 all Lawrence, all the time coverage.

 

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ando wrote:
The most disturbing thing about this topic is the number of grown men, most of whom are probably middle aged, who deeply dislike some stranger whom...

The most disturbing thing about this topic is the number of grown men, most of whom are probably middle aged, who deeply dislike some stranger whom they’ve never met (and most likely never will) and whose claim to fame is that he’s fast on a dirtbike.  The guy has zero impact on their lives in any meaningful way yet they dislike him enough to be critical of his personality, his family, his career goals etc.

If that’s not fucked up in some way or another I don’t know what is.

 

So far off the mark....

It ain't about Jett the person.

 

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Most groups that I see on Facebook that are populated with "Core" guys have seemed to have beef with Jett going back even before his missteps...

Most groups that I see on Facebook that are populated with "Core" guys have seemed to have beef with Jett going back even before his missteps at the beginning of this season. 

To me with the fact that he is a way better outdoor guy would make me think the core fan would be all about Jett because that's kind of a throwback instead of being a Supercross specialist. 

For those that say he still hasn't done enough, the guy has won the last 6 championships that he has entered fairly handily. If he never wins another race he has already cemented his position as an all timer. I think he should come in expecting to knock the veterans off their perch. 

I happened to stay in the same hotel as the Lawrences in Salt Lake City last year and granted it was a limited amount of time, but I saw him at breakfast and had a couple short convos in the elevator. Jett was always very respectful to everyone around him and most the time in the elevator he would always defer to Hunter and definitely treat him like the big brother. 

If you don’t understand how hate works, no one can explain it to you, good luck 

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ando wrote:
The most disturbing thing about this topic is the number of grown men, most of whom are probably middle aged, who deeply dislike some stranger whom...

The most disturbing thing about this topic is the number of grown men, most of whom are probably middle aged, who deeply dislike some stranger whom they’ve never met (and most likely never will) and whose claim to fame is that he’s fast on a dirtbike.  The guy has zero impact on their lives in any meaningful way yet they dislike him enough to be critical of his personality, his family, his career goals etc.

If that’s not fucked up in some way or another I don’t know what is.

 

Magoofan wrote:

So far off the mark....

It ain't about Jett the person.

 

Don't hate the rider just because the media blow him up, it's not the riders fault. I would think a rider like Jett would beg them to not be so hands on all the time.

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2/2/2024 9:21am

Is it Hate? Or, Jett realist? Question mark. 

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2/2/2024 9:23am

Couldn’t be bothered reading all 5 pages. I think he’s great & the riding speaks for itself.

the beef with JA & the dialogue that was put out after apologising seemed to me as a prompt to the AMA to get JA fined or reprimanded. So less of a fan now, he just needs to prove on the track and realise NO one is pulling over just because he’s faster 

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2/2/2024 9:32am Edited Date/Time 2/2/2024 9:33am

Hate is a strong word, I don't think there's very many guys who hate Jett other than the small few who hate everything and everyone.  I haven't read the thread but to me it seemed up until recently the Lawrences were doing a good job at staying humble and letting their riding do the talking.

I didn't pay attention to them much but then it seemed out of the blue there were 4 or 5 consecutive incidents in a row that built up the pressure cooker. I might have missed something but these stood out:  

1. "Jett is that good mutherf*ckers"
2. Jett interview on SF and he said they should have cancelled the race and he was cold and got wet.
3. Jett interview after being points down and he had a "I'm not worried about it those points are easy to make up" attitude
4. Jett interview with the talk about beating MC's record of 72
5. Jett going after Anderson for riding a wide bike and throwing a fit.  He also looked like he was crying so that was piled on

So with all of this happening in a very short timeframe, Jett had tons of fans turn on him and want him to "Cool his Jetts" a bit.  They want to see him get humbled lose the arrogance.  If he just chills out and lets his riding do the talking, this will all blow over.  If he doesn't learn from this and does something else, the boo'ing will continue.  This isn't hate, this is just sending the kid a message to chill and be respectful of other riders who can actually challenge him or beat him on occasion.  His attitude should shift from "I'm not worried about making up points, that's easy" to "yeah I'm not happy about being down, this is a stacked field with a lot of talent and I'll have to put in hard work to make up points".  

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ando wrote:
The most disturbing thing about this topic is the number of grown men, most of whom are probably middle aged, who deeply dislike some stranger whom...

The most disturbing thing about this topic is the number of grown men, most of whom are probably middle aged, who deeply dislike some stranger whom they’ve never met (and most likely never will) and whose claim to fame is that he’s fast on a dirtbike.  The guy has zero impact on their lives in any meaningful way yet they dislike him enough to be critical of his personality, his family, his career goals etc.

If that’s not fucked up in some way or another I don’t know what is.

 

Magoofan wrote:

So far off the mark....

It ain't about Jett the person.

 

KlockreN wrote:
Don't hate the rider just because the media blow him up, it's not the riders fault. I would think a rider like Jett would beg them...

Don't hate the rider just because the media blow him up, it's not the riders fault. I would think a rider like Jett would beg them to not be so hands on all the time.

My first post in this thread stated "I don't hate Jett" and that's the truth.   Though he's done some thing to make him less likeable recently IMO.

The extent of my "Lawrence bashing" is aimed squarely at their unhinged fans and the coverage.

 

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Magoofan wrote:

So far off the mark....

It ain't about Jett the person.

 

KlockreN wrote:
Don't hate the rider just because the media blow him up, it's not the riders fault. I would think a rider like Jett would beg them...

Don't hate the rider just because the media blow him up, it's not the riders fault. I would think a rider like Jett would beg them to not be so hands on all the time.

Magoofan wrote:
My first post in this thread stated "I don't hate Jett" and that's the truth.   Though he's done some thing to make him less likeable recently...

My first post in this thread stated "I don't hate Jett" and that's the truth.   Though he's done some thing to make him less likeable recently IMO.

The extent of my "Lawrence bashing" is aimed squarely at their unhinged fans and the coverage.

 

Every rider do some stupid shit once in a while, dont make me hate them. Even a rider like Friese who is hated online by everyone, I dont have  a problem with his riding.

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The funniest part to me are a percentage of Jett super-defenders who drive home the narrative of "it's so pathetic that grown men dislike a 20 year old that they don't even know personally - how pathetic".

Come on. Welcome to sports, buddy. People have their favorites, and people have their heels. There's nothing deeply personal or ill-contrived about rooting against a handful of athletes. Are Georgia football fans deeply fucked-up individuals for rooting against Alabama?

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KlockreN wrote:
Don't hate the rider just because the media blow him up, it's not the riders fault. I would think a rider like Jett would beg them...

Don't hate the rider just because the media blow him up, it's not the riders fault. I would think a rider like Jett would beg them to not be so hands on all the time.

Magoofan wrote:
My first post in this thread stated "I don't hate Jett" and that's the truth.   Though he's done some thing to make him less likeable recently...

My first post in this thread stated "I don't hate Jett" and that's the truth.   Though he's done some thing to make him less likeable recently IMO.

The extent of my "Lawrence bashing" is aimed squarely at their unhinged fans and the coverage.

 

KlockreN wrote:
Every rider do some stupid shit once in a while, dont make me hate them. Even a rider like Friese who is hated online by everyone...

Every rider do some stupid shit once in a while, dont make me hate them. Even a rider like Friese who is hated online by everyone, I dont have  a problem with his riding.

Again....I don't hate Jett or any rider.    

I take a bunch of heat for it, but I'm a call myself a fan of Friese.    

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2/2/2024 10:07am Edited Date/Time 2/2/2024 10:07am

It’s weird how emotional Aussies are getting over their messiah getting some heat. Normally you guys are chill like the rockies. What happened? It’s dirtbike racing, not cancer. It’s not that serious. 

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