Is anyone surprised, F'in Friese

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TriRacer27 wrote:
Not true.    Ya'll need to rewatch both the heat and the main event start. Watch how Prado does the same thing as Vince, from even...

Not true. 

 

Ya'll need to rewatch both the heat and the main event start. Watch how Prado does the same thing as Vince, from even further outside, but somehow knows not to f-in dive bomb straight to the inside. Same exact scenario but he leaves enough room for everyone to make the turn and no-one got taken out. That's how a world champ does it, not a world chump. 

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lwtracer wrote:
Prado holds his line very well.  Vince b-lined for the inside white line and actually makes contact with the white line. Prado gave plenty of room...


Prado holds his line very well.  Vince b-lined for the inside white line and actually makes contact with the white line. Prado gave plenty of room between himself and the white line.

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You’re idiot if you think that was frieses angle. Friese his the white line because hunter hits his back wheel and kicks him to that angle.

 

also, Prado come from farther out and is going for the inside. Exactly same move Vince. The difference is, Prado start wasn’t as good so he could cut in harder. 

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Normally never want to hear a rider is hurt.  But in this case my first thought was "Good".  He just needs to go away, he does nothing good for the sport.  

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luckyguy19 wrote:
Normally never want to hear a rider is hurt.  But in this case my first thought was "Good".  He just needs to go away, he does...

Normally never want to hear a rider is hurt.  But in this case my first thought was "Good".  He just needs to go away, he does nothing good for the sport.  

That’s not true he gives people something to talk about. 

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luckyguy19 wrote:
Normally never want to hear a rider is hurt.  But in this case my first thought was "Good".  He just needs to go away, he does...

Normally never want to hear a rider is hurt.  But in this case my first thought was "Good".  He just needs to go away, he does nothing good for the sport.  

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That’s not true he gives people something to talk about. 

Not when he is interfering with the ability of other riders to make a living. 

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Anymore info on how long VF will be out?

 

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luckyguy19 wrote:
Normally never want to hear a rider is hurt.  But in this case my first thought was "Good".  He just needs to go away, he does...

Normally never want to hear a rider is hurt.  But in this case my first thought was "Good".  He just needs to go away, he does nothing good for the sport.  

soggy wrote:

That’s not true he gives people something to talk about. 

Barcia should be pissed.  His name hasn’t been mentioned hardly at all.  

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So vinces move caused a rider to break his leg and his foot was literally pointing in the opposite direction.

 

 

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Then he proceeded to take Deano out.  Deano posted up his thoughts.. 

https://youtu.be/8jaizqTz9cg?si=5mXH5r476N7t45_Q&t=1245

 

Boo hoo Dean.    (who I'm a fan of BTW ).....but sack up dude.   It's fu(kin racing.        

Race hard....  Dean seems to have lost the drive.

 

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Pop Shmoke wrote:
So vinces move caused a rider to break his leg and his foot was literally pointing in the opposite direction.      

So vinces move caused a rider to break his leg and his foot was literally pointing in the opposite direction.

 

 

That's one tough son of a gun.

Looked pretty nonchalant. 

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Pop Shmoke wrote:
So vinces move caused a rider to break his leg and his foot was literally pointing in the opposite direction.      

So vinces move caused a rider to break his leg and his foot was literally pointing in the opposite direction.

 

 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

That's one tough son of a gun.

Looked pretty nonchalant. 

He looked a hell of a lot more relaxed with his leg twisted a half turn than VF did with a tweaked shoulder a few laps later..

VF has a crazy ability to make kaos. Whenever you see yellow flags waving, it’s pretty likely he’s nearby.. 

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Proof  

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lwtracer wrote:
Prado holds his line very well.  Vince b-lined for the inside white line and actually makes contact with the white line. Prado gave plenty of room...


Prado holds his line very well.  Vince b-lined for the inside white line and actually makes contact with the white line. Prado gave plenty of room between himself and the white line.

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Renner153 wrote:
You’re idiot if you think that was frieses angle. Friese his the white line because hunter hits his back wheel and kicks him to that angle...

You’re idiot if you think that was frieses angle. Friese his the white line because hunter hits his back wheel and kicks him to that angle.

 

also, Prado come from farther out and is going for the inside. Exactly same move Vince. The difference is, Prado start wasn’t as good so he could cut in harder. 

Right, so Prado came from further out didn't have as good a start and still didn't to need to aggressively cut over anyone else's front wheel to get a holeshot?

 

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He gets hunter and sexton, then he gets mookie and Kenny in the main.  Then he DNFs.   Who night does he ruin next weekend!  Haha, unbelievable. ...

He gets hunter and sexton, then he gets mookie and Kenny in the main.  Then he DNFs.   Who night does he ruin next weekend!  Haha, unbelievable.  Just racing huh?  Idiots

Not to mention his bullshit in WSX how the fuck does anybody still support this clown. 

Well take a look at who is supporting this clown, the biggest off track clown himself Tony Fucking Alessi

Go Figure

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ctbale wrote:
He gets hunter and sexton, then he gets mookie and Kenny in the main.  Then he DNFs.   Who night does he ruin next weekend!  Haha, unbelievable. ...

He gets hunter and sexton, then he gets mookie and Kenny in the main.  Then he DNFs.   Who night does he ruin next weekend!  Haha, unbelievable.  Just racing huh?  Idiots

Not to mention his bullshit in WSX how the fuck does anybody still support this clown. 

Well take a look at who is supporting this clown, the biggest off track clown himself Tony Fucking Alessi

Go Figure

After Vince Friese was offering to pay a bounty to a rider to take out his main competition in WSX, that should have been the end of his AMA racing career, but here he is causing all kinds of mayhem in the premier class of the most prestigious Supercross series in the world. I know racing dirtbikes is inherently dangerous and Logan Karnow probably had a dream of making it someday in AMA competition, but after seeing his Foot twisted completely backwards possibly ending his racing career from a crash caused by Friese who shouldn't even be in the series, it's a damn shame this happened.  People who support Vince Friese, if that was you or your kid that gotten taken out by that dirtbag, you might have a different opinion of him if he was responsible for causing a crash that ended your career or possibly paralyzed you.   Maybe the ones defending VF are just contrarians that get a hard-on arguing the opposite viewpoint, even though they know it in their heart the guys a scumbag that should be banned from Ama racing. 

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At this point, the fans, and or racers need to start a petition to have him banned for an entire season. In the work world, if someone is that toxic in the work place and is jeopardizing other peoples safety they get sent home to sort their crap out. Either that or, they flat out get removed from the job. Simply remove the cancer. 

The AMA / Feld must be sick of the endless complaints, threats and constant headache that is Vince Friese? Improve everyone's quality of life and remove him from the sport. 

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DK324 wrote:
At this point, the fans, and or racers need to start a petition to have him banned for an entire season. In the work world, if...

At this point, the fans, and or racers need to start a petition to have him banned for an entire season. In the work world, if someone is that toxic in the work place and is jeopardizing other peoples safety they get sent home to sort their crap out. Either that or, they flat out get removed from the job. Simply remove the cancer. 

The AMA / Feld must be sick of the endless complaints, threats and constant headache that is Vince Friese? Improve everyone's quality of life and remove him from the sport. 

Imagine for a second if instead of Logan Karnow that got injured, it was Eli Tomac with his leg twisted backwards and his career finished all because Tony Alessi hired and the AMA allowed this scumbag with a horrible resume/legacy to compete and destroy the comeback story of one of the truly great riders in AMA history, the racing community would have lost their F'in minds, but luckily that didn't happen, but it's not even worth taking the chance, because he's not going to win an AMA championship and VF's idea of racing is if you can't beat um, pay a bounty or purposely crash into them and hopefully they get injured.   The guy has mental problems

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DK324 wrote:
At this point, the fans, and or racers need to start a petition to have him banned for an entire season. In the work world, if...

At this point, the fans, and or racers need to start a petition to have him banned for an entire season. In the work world, if someone is that toxic in the work place and is jeopardizing other peoples safety they get sent home to sort their crap out. Either that or, they flat out get removed from the job. Simply remove the cancer. 

The AMA / Feld must be sick of the endless complaints, threats and constant headache that is Vince Friese? Improve everyone's quality of life and remove him from the sport. 

Feld is an entertainment company, Vince creates entertainment!

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1/9/2024 3:06pm
DK324 wrote:
At this point, the fans, and or racers need to start a petition to have him banned for an entire season. In the work world, if...

At this point, the fans, and or racers need to start a petition to have him banned for an entire season. In the work world, if someone is that toxic in the work place and is jeopardizing other peoples safety they get sent home to sort their crap out. Either that or, they flat out get removed from the job. Simply remove the cancer. 

The AMA / Feld must be sick of the endless complaints, threats and constant headache that is Vince Friese? Improve everyone's quality of life and remove him from the sport. 

Feld is an entertainment company, Vince creates entertainment!

The ama is not. 

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Pop Shmoke wrote:
So vinces move caused a rider to break his leg and his foot was literally pointing in the opposite direction.      

So vinces move caused a rider to break his leg and his foot was literally pointing in the opposite direction.

 

 

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1/9/2024 3:23pm Edited Date/Time 1/9/2024 3:24pm
DK324 wrote:
At this point, the fans, and or racers need to start a petition to have him banned for an entire season. In the work world, if...

At this point, the fans, and or racers need to start a petition to have him banned for an entire season. In the work world, if someone is that toxic in the work place and is jeopardizing other peoples safety they get sent home to sort their crap out. Either that or, they flat out get removed from the job. Simply remove the cancer. 

The AMA / Feld must be sick of the endless complaints, threats and constant headache that is Vince Friese? Improve everyone's quality of life and remove him from the sport. 

Imagine for a second if instead of Logan Karnow that got injured, it was Eli Tomac with his leg twisted backwards and his career finished all...

Imagine for a second if instead of Logan Karnow that got injured, it was Eli Tomac with his leg twisted backwards and his career finished all because Tony Alessi hired and the AMA allowed this scumbag with a horrible resume/legacy to compete and destroy the comeback story of one of the truly great riders in AMA history, the racing community would have lost their F'in minds, but luckily that didn't happen, but it's not even worth taking the chance, because he's not going to win an AMA championship and VF's idea of racing is if you can't beat um, pay a bounty or purposely crash into them and hopefully they get injured.   The guy has mental problems

What if it was Jett, and it was a career ending injury. It could  have been  any current  450SX racer, and that is why they should  all be pissed off at Vince.

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1/9/2024 3:24pm Edited Date/Time 1/9/2024 3:29pm
Pop Shmoke wrote:
So vinces move caused a rider to break his leg and his foot was literally pointing in the opposite direction.      

So vinces move caused a rider to break his leg and his foot was literally pointing in the opposite direction.

 

 

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Gold baby!!    Subtle truth right there. 

Everybody knows Andy DeFresne was innocent. 

EDIT: I'm saving that one. 

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I know there are vitards that defend Friese despite the decade and a half of repeated behavior.  Virtually all pro riders that speak about Vince have a negative opinion, and any that have had really any real riding exposure to him have a negative opinion of his riding antics.  Some of the most highly respected pros, like JB, think he is a cheap rider.  Despite all of this some here, with their vast experience riding against him, continue to defend his actions.  My opinion on the Hunter thing is that he had a wheel on Hunter and a right to go for the turn but did so in an overly aggressive manner that helped lead to the contact..  Hunter should have seen the threat and backed off sooner.  JT, someone that HAS been a pro rider on the track with him, expressed the same view.  Basically just because you have a right to do something doesn’t make it the right thing to do.  Then he straight up cleans out Dean in a cheap and stupid takeout move.  Something he does on a regular basis.  These arguments about Vince should end because if you are still defending this goon then you can not be convinced.  The body of evidence is way too massive and anything more still won’t convince you.  If every rider rode like him then we would be down to about 6 riders finishing the race and the injury list would grow exponentially.  Had Craig hit the cement floor differently, from the sand takeout, then I don’t even want to speculate on what the result could have been.  So while you can look at single incidents with some possible defense….it’s always the same.  When his lack of any respect riding style permanently injures someone, or worse, then will you agree he is dangerous? …because then it will be too late.  It’s not a being “soft” thing…it’s a safety thing.  Do you think Eli is soft?  No…yet he does not leave a wake of destruction behind him.  Just great racing to watch.  Vince…he offers nothing of value and only negative effects on races and possibility of serious injury to other riders.

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DK324 wrote:
At this point, the fans, and or racers need to start a petition to have him banned for an entire season. In the work world, if...

At this point, the fans, and or racers need to start a petition to have him banned for an entire season. In the work world, if someone is that toxic in the work place and is jeopardizing other peoples safety they get sent home to sort their crap out. Either that or, they flat out get removed from the job. Simply remove the cancer. 

The AMA / Feld must be sick of the endless complaints, threats and constant headache that is Vince Friese? Improve everyone's quality of life and remove him from the sport. 

Feld is an entertainment company, Vince creates entertainment!

I’ll pass on the VF brand of “entertainment”. And if I change my mind, I can always watch WWE wrestling or Jerry Springer reruns. 

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The guy is a wanker.

Unfortunately, he is great starter, so he gets in ever one's way, I don't agree that he was the cause of the start crash, right hand corners are difficult and it's racing, you need to be aware of everyone and hunter came in hot. 

But he did take out DW, and the games he played in Dubai was a joke. 

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1/9/2024 5:53pm
DK324 wrote:
At this point, the fans, and or racers need to start a petition to have him banned for an entire season. In the work world, if...

At this point, the fans, and or racers need to start a petition to have him banned for an entire season. In the work world, if someone is that toxic in the work place and is jeopardizing other peoples safety they get sent home to sort their crap out. Either that or, they flat out get removed from the job. Simply remove the cancer. 

The AMA / Feld must be sick of the endless complaints, threats and constant headache that is Vince Friese? Improve everyone's quality of life and remove him from the sport. 

Feld is an entertainment company, Vince creates entertainment!

Gravel wrote:

I’ll pass on the VF brand of “entertainment”. And if I change my mind, I can always watch WWE wrestling or Jerry Springer reruns. 

Feld is an entertainment company, how many times will Vince's takeouts be replayed next week?

The biggest issue I see with Vinc's riding, is his influence on amateur riders, fast riders wiping out novices on practice tracks, welcome to motocross bitch! That doesn't grow the sport.

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Feld is an entertainment company, Vince creates entertainment!

Gravel wrote:

I’ll pass on the VF brand of “entertainment”. And if I change my mind, I can always watch WWE wrestling or Jerry Springer reruns. 

Feld is an entertainment company, how many times will Vince's takeouts be replayed next week? The biggest issue I see with Vinc's riding, is his influence...

Feld is an entertainment company, how many times will Vince's takeouts be replayed next week?

The biggest issue I see with Vinc's riding, is his influence on amateur riders, fast riders wiping out novices on practice tracks, welcome to motocross bitch! That doesn't grow the sport.

Well…Feld is short sighted then.  If you think he will give a shit, or even notice, if the #18 is caught up in his carnage wreck next time and Jett gets injured??  The loss in fan viewership will literally exceed 1000 fold of the minuscule numbers associated with a Vince takeout.  That is part of the reason I have no respect for the ball less AMA.  Because you are right…Feld plays the WWE angle and the AMA lets them.  Did you notice that the opening montage at A1 showed clips of fights?  Yet they claim they don’t want fighting.  You are right about the entertainment selling approach but the AMA isn’t supposed to approach their job like that.

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DK324 wrote:
At this point, the fans, and or racers need to start a petition to have him banned for an entire season. In the work world, if...

At this point, the fans, and or racers need to start a petition to have him banned for an entire season. In the work world, if someone is that toxic in the work place and is jeopardizing other peoples safety they get sent home to sort their crap out. Either that or, they flat out get removed from the job. Simply remove the cancer. 

The AMA / Feld must be sick of the endless complaints, threats and constant headache that is Vince Friese? Improve everyone's quality of life and remove him from the sport. 

Feld is an entertainment company, Vince creates entertainment!

I am fully aware of the sanctioning bodies and what they do within our sport. I am sorry, but a racer who causes big crashes, injuries and first turn pile ups is not selling our sport. He is selling that it is dangerous and unsafe. This has happened every where Vince has ever raced. (USA, Canada, WSX, ETC) 

AMA- Racers & Teams- Petition stating - due to racer safety they will not line up with Vince Friese, due to his returning negligence in regards to other racers safety. IE Cross jumping, Brake checking, coming across the flats in turns, cutting across on start straights. He chooses to disrespect the rules and attempt to bend them for personal gain.

Feld- Viewing customers, Ticket Sales, Merch Purchasers - Petition Stating - Due to Vince Friese's continuous dangerous actions on course, we will be asking for a refund for our tickets. This is not supercross racing at the highest level, which is what we the customers are paying to see. If I want to see carnage, Ill go to the local smash up derby and get drunk with my buddies.

How many racers have had performances that have effected their individual race & series results out come due to his lack of respect on course? Nobody is coming to the race for the soul purpose of watching Vince clean dudes out? How many fans did show up to watch Hunter & Jett race their first 450 main? Or watch Kenny Battle for a win?  If you are buying tickets to just watch Vince Friese, then you likely have a mental health diagnosis as well. 

What I am stating here is that the customer is always right in the business world. If the customers of these clients want to see change, then they should create the change they want to see. Vince has received fines for his bullshit with every sanctioning body that he has ever competed with. I am not for cancel culture. But I am for supporting real racers who dedicate their lives to their performances, only to be limited by this clown. I love this sport and I love a good battle, close racing and a good take out for a win. But cleaning Dean out for 11th place that early in the race is not what professional racers do. 

That is just my 2 cents, I respect that other people view racing differently than I do & that is cool too. 

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Gravel wrote:

I’ll pass on the VF brand of “entertainment”. And if I change my mind, I can always watch WWE wrestling or Jerry Springer reruns. 

Feld is an entertainment company, how many times will Vince's takeouts be replayed next week? The biggest issue I see with Vinc's riding, is his influence...

Feld is an entertainment company, how many times will Vince's takeouts be replayed next week?

The biggest issue I see with Vinc's riding, is his influence on amateur riders, fast riders wiping out novices on practice tracks, welcome to motocross bitch! That doesn't grow the sport.

Shred wrote:
Well…Feld is short sighted then.  If you think he will give a shit, or even notice, if the #18 is caught up in his carnage wreck...

Well…Feld is short sighted then.  If you think he will give a shit, or even notice, if the #18 is caught up in his carnage wreck next time and Jett gets injured??  The loss in fan viewership will literally exceed 1000 fold of the minuscule numbers associated with a Vince takeout.  That is part of the reason I have no respect for the ball less AMA.  Because you are right…Feld plays the WWE angle and the AMA lets them.  Did you notice that the opening montage at A1 showed clips of fights?  Yet they claim they don’t want fighting.  You are right about the entertainment selling approach but the AMA isn’t supposed to approach their job like that.

Vince's crash into Dean Wilson was deliberate, like a lot of other crashes caused by Vince and other riders over the history of AMA Pro racing. It's part of the show, it creates publicity, the story of heroes and villains sells for Feld.

AMA rules say participants should attempt resolve disputes with other participants...

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Weston Peick acted within the rules when he tried to resolve his dispute with Vince Friese!

It might be good for the show, but it's bad for the sport, it spills over into amateur racing and amateur practice track riding, riders end up riding off road or leaving the sport, but the AMA doesn't look at that, even when it's in the rules...

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Rubbing is racing. Being a dickhead is not, vf is just a dh

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