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You can say all you want, but we weren’t in proxy wars all over the world with Trump. We were de escalating, our manufacturing was going up again, our borders were more secure and in all honesty. Take away the crazies told to loot and riot and it wasn’t bad at all. But orange guy bad
I've stated my opinion of Trump in quite a few threads and that opinion was formed looonggg before he got into politics.
My opinion has not changed because he is still the slimy pos he's always been.
When I bake a cake (yes, I like sweet shit)...it sometimes doesn't come out right or as good as I want but I know going in that rotten eggs, spoiled milk, and flour full of weevils is a guarantee of a bad result. Trump represents every bad characteristic a man can possess imo. Sorry, not sorry.
Only because of what the cock sucking media has pushed for the last near eight years. I don’t believe anything they say about any of these bullshit wars. Never have. All they do is lie. They’re all in on it together. When they have a common enemy that is Trump that tells me he’s the right guy for the job. I’ll take the guy that hasn’t been in office for over five decades. Bidens level of corruption hasn’t even been fully uncovered yet and you all know it. Pretty similar shit to the prime minister of Malaysia. Deny deny deny.
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Per the Constitution, regardless of which side you are on, you can definitely see the basis and logic behind him being disqualified from being on the ballot. Supreme Court will decide, hopefully ASAP so we can move forward.
I don’t see it. All I see is a bunch of banana republic crap.
The biggest disappointment I had with Trump was he didn’t know how deep the swamp actually was, and how many people were stabbing him in the back.
At least I have you halfway there!!
I’ll have to keep working.
You are correct but that decision is one only the SCOTUS can make, not state Supreme Courts.
A successful invocation of the 14th on this issue requires a finding of sedition which could prove difficult, not because I don’t believe he did, but because it’s a very high bar
So that explains why Democrats expect them not to be overturned.
Sedition is not at play here.
shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.
Sedition I believe means to start or lead a rebellion or insurrection. The bar here is to participate, not start or lead. Then you get in to the second part, aiding and comforting. He is on tape doing just that, saying he will pardon those already found guilty of insurrection and doing time for it. Also referring to them as Patriots, while at it.
This does need to be tested at the SC level. If the bar has not been met here, when would it? I am quite sure Repubs wouldn't want a repeat of all that happened back then, if the shoe was on the other foot and Joe was the one who was interrupting the transfer of power to them and doing all he could to invalidate their election win.
Vivek
That’s what I get for not looking at the text of the 14th before posting
You don’t see how legal minds may interpret the Constitution in a way that would bar Trump from the ballot? Really?
Nope. Do you know who Alan Dershowitz is? You should hear his take, and he voted for Biden and would again
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Besides Plowboy, Dershowitz is the only honest Dem I know of.
edit again:
Dershowitz knows the law much better than PB, but I’d let PB work on my airplane anytime. Dershowitz, not. So much.
Two points:
1.You say Trump is giving aid and comfort by promising to pardon those in jail from J6. You know, the ones who have been in prison with no due process, and NOT ONE has been charged with, let alone “found guilty of” as you say insurrection. I think the biggest charge is trespassing, but we don’t really know, because of the secrecy and misinformation.
2. Do you really think Biden and his group aren’t doing what you accuse Trump of doing right now, as we speak, with these made up charges? And how about all of the voter fraud, that Biden himself bragged about before the election. Is that not interfering with the election?
The meme speaks the truth …
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.axios.com/2023/09/01/jan-6-longest-sentences-list%23:~:text%3DHenry%2520%2522Enrique%2522%2520Tarrio%252C%2520former,seditious%2520conspiracy%2520related%2520to%2520Jan.&ved=2ahUKEwin7_yhyreDAxXGF1kFHTHNBsAQFnoECAwQBQ&usg=AOvVaw2WGfN2-GI3vSC64eUGjTzQ
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In the case of Biden and Trump, you're not choosing ineptitude over ego. You are choosing an unelected globalist cabal that can only advance their agenda with a weakened United States.
Your post history demonstrates that you have more than enough cognition to know that the current dipshit-in-chief is not running the show
For those of you not paying attention, And Frisella does a great job of explaining what is actually happening in our country on his CTI episodes
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/621-andy-dj-cti-8-000-migrants-heading-towards-us-americans/id1012570406?i=1000639997842
He hasn't been convicted of any "insurrection", nor charged with one for that matter. We can't have judges determine who can or can not be on the ballots. That is not due process...
Appreciate the kind words brother but honestly...I spent most of my life being incredibly conscious of my every maintenance action. It only got worse when I was responsible for crews and a fleet of aircraft.
You fly the plane because the mechanic tells you it's safe. No way in hell I can say that unless I'm willing to strap in with you. I damn sure don't wanna auger in so...I (and all my mechs) understood this is fucking serious shit.
I never knew how anal I was until my wife and kids told me..."we can't be perfect like you". I am far from perfect...but from day one...it was hammered into my head..."you work on this plane like your family is gonna be in it".
I guess my point is two-fold...I took my job serious because it fucking is. Gman may be a zipper suited sun god but a bad mech is something he shouldn't have to worry about.
The downside is my intolerance of people that aren't trying to be, if not the best, then at least "the best they can be".
Since I retired the reduced stress level has made me and my family far happier. Well, the price of beef does have my stressed a little.
He doesn’t have to be convicted. I’m not even saying I agree with the decision. Colorado’s courts were split 4-3, and they were all appointed by Democrats. Newsom stated that Trump should be defeated at the polls, and no doubt California followed his lead in declining to remove him from the ballot. So obviously they don’t agree fully either. All I’m saying is you can definitely see the logic behind the ruling. Just like when the Supreme Court inevitably rules in Trump’s favor, you’ll be able to see their logic and reasoning too. This isn’t as black and white as people make it out to be.
Lol...you're giving me a lot of credit I don't deserve.
I honestly don't believe in political conspiracies, cabals, and such. I'm not saying politicians aren't lying, conniving, self loving pieces of shit but they just ain't that smart.
Now...if you wanna talk about the named/un-named mega rich (both foreign and domestic) that control our politicians...and how they vote...then I have no doubt there's at least some truth to those conspiracies.
I already said I don't deserve any credit for being "cognizant"... anything I say on this forum is 100% my ignorant opinion. If I possess any intellect at all...it's my acceptance of my ignorance.
I see what you are saying... but if he hasn't be charged nor convicted of insurrection, how does one arbitrarily remove someone from the ballot for that very reason? Again, it goes back to due process. Why not say he's a murderer and take him off the ballot? No charge, no conviction, no due process. Just an "I say so"... No one person (speaking of the state of Maine) should have the ability to remove someone from a ballot just because they don't like him/her or are a different party affiliation. To me, (and I'm no lawyer) that sounds like election interference.
One has to deny the absolute foundational rights of the 5th Amendment to get to the point that these POLITICIANS are at. Period. They soooooo want to have their way, politically, that they’ll shit all over The Constitution. Period.
No worries. This is where we’re at and this is why I often say,”Orwell wasn’t just an author: he was a prophet.”
For reference:
The fourth section (of the 5th Ammend) is referred to as the “Due Process clause” and protects life, liberty, and property from impairment by the federal government. The Fourteenth Amendment grants the same protections from the states.
This language means that the government must follow proper procedures and not violate any Constitutional rights when seeking a conviction or that conviction will not stand. Basically, it makes the government accountable in how they act towards the people.
I’m jus’ sayin’…
I like your last paragraph. It seems to come right out of the wisdom of one of my favorite Thomas Sowell quotes.
" It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance"
When I first read that quote I thought it was a clever insult toward other people. Then I thought maybe it is supposed to be self reflective. Maybe both i figure.
As I've gotten older and gone North of 60 I realize how profound that quote is. As it has taken time and hindsight to look back and see my own ignorance in many things. I don't think I'm any smarter but I'm a lot more careful and due diligent about navigating what's going on in my world.
“There is only one good, knowledge, and only one evil, ignorance.” - Socrates
Try it. You might learn something.
Not when it is a one sided algo driven search feed. So no, you won’t “learn” something beyond what they want you to learn. Mouse meet cheese
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