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All by design. There’s no fucking way anyone can convince me that this shit isn’t intentional.
I don't follow the news on a day to day basis typically....that's either a really good or a really bad thing
What's the latest in Israel/Middle East? Just a shit show?
Yup, same as it ever was.
Houthis apparently have declared war on Israel. And 2 or 30 hundred more us troops are being sent into us bases that have been having skirmishes. Tick.... tok....
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More big shipping firms stop Red Sea routes after attacks https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67738792
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Not true at all. Britain, France, Russia, and Germany's governments changed radically in WW1 for example. I believe Churchill was voted out during WW2. If people get pissed enough they will not allow their current governments to continue. The problem with our country is we all so apathetic and appeased most of us don't even vote. I would venture to guess most Americans could not find Taiwan, Ukraine, or Israel on a map.
Thank you, agreed.
And we changed from dem to rep to end Vietnam war
It is awful the way we are played and manipulated by our leaders. Seems every war of the 20th century was fought for reasons other than what the people of the involved countries were told, or even what the history books tell us now. Forgive me, every war since 1860. There has been no good reason for the millions that have died to be killed in war. Now in every corner of the world it seems there is some sort of travesty the USA needs to be militarily involved in, somehow different than travesties and injustices that have been happening in civilization forever. Millions of men have been maimed, or died, or left unburied/unremembered, untold numbers of unexploded shells still litter Europe, untold numbers of land mines litter this world, countries (including ours) amass huge stores of nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons, and untold numbers of valiant soldiers lay unburied still from as far as Pacific islands to the Russian plains. It seems every war is the war to end all wars, and this shit they play now is an injustice to all former soldiers who fought nobly for what they thought was a good cause. I listened to the Republican debates, or any of Biden's speeches, the saber rattling and idle threats of war scare the shit out of me. A real war will destroy our way of life, and it will come to our shores.
What's your point, both parties supported the war, until they didn't.
Dwight D. Eisenhower (R) was president when the Vietnam war started, John F. Kennedy (D) and Lyndon B. Johnson (D) were Presidents while the war was ongoing, Richard Nixon (R) was President when the war was lost.
Isn't there a handjob thread over in moto that you should be participating in ??
Because you certainly have no clue around here.
All wars are bankers’ wars.
https://youtu.be/BrKf9nYeXT0?si=ofDemsK0zSB5HTZP.
Governments across the world are going broke. The machine has to be fed. Wars create cash flow. They’re also useful for getting and keeping the populace in line and under control.
Something shiny go by and you forgot the thought this was a response to? Classic example of some ding dong wanting to argue a point and confirming what they are arguing against. Are you trying to be that ding dong?
Why can't people discuss something without somebody being offended? I guarantee even if I disagree with you, I can learn something from a discussion with you. Not everything needs prefaced with "no offense intended".
The ‘68 election resulted from Democratic Party failures. LBJ was obsessed with Vietnam (or more specifically, the media’s coverage), and when he bailed on running for president again, a republican victory was guaranteed.
Nixon’s approach was not radically different, but it did focus on bringing the war to an end. However, his administration grossly overestimated South Vietnam’s willingness to engage the NVA w/o direct US. support, resulting in the quick fall of Saigon. Even North Vietnam budgeted 18+ months to overtake the south, and NVA tanks were rolling past the US embassy in about 90 days. What a shit show…
What I find maddening is,
We currently have a war mongering administration.
Just as many others in the past.
A recent administration is being targeted endlessly by the "swamp", and the associated money behind the scenes.
For that administration was not buying into the endless war scenario.
And he's paying the price.
Now we have a growing (R) media (they're in on it too) darling who has her sights set on the oval office.
Her backing comes from the same "industry" that's behind the neverending turmoil around the world.
Hell, she's even on their boards.
No doubt, Nikki wants war.
Pit Row
She’s gone from sounding viable to sounding full-swamp-rat.
For me it’s not about her anti-Trump arguments. She’s suppose to be going after him…he’s the competition.
The people who she’s aligned herself with are classic DC swamp rats. She’s selling out right in front of our eyes.
Viv tore her a new asshole.
The original thought/post to which Spoonguy and I replied was
"Its a long standing and well known fact that the leadership doesnt change during wartime. Think about that."
What was responded to, was the fact that leadership DOES (sometimes) change during wartime.
So are you just piling on that administrations DO change or? Aside from the fact that I don't agree with your assessment other than Vietnam was a shit show. You've just stated that leadership changes during wartime.
Oh, I agree with your assessment. Just saying it takes a shitty sequence of events to make it happen. The democrats, culminating with the ‘68 convention, paved a path for the republicans (who had enough sense not to bury Nixon when he lost in ‘60).
One thing to note: it was the draft, not the war, that drove the protests. Take away the draft and Vietnam becomes somebody else’s problem.
I guess it depends on what you read. How do you know he lost? He conceded because he thought it was good for the country to NOT challenge blatant election fraud. None the less, The country wanted out of Vietnam bad. The pentagon papers weren't even about what happened during his admin. He got hosed because he thought it was bad for the country that they got leaked and the methods used to get back what hadn't been leaked yet. He could have just let it leak out and it was all about the previous administration.
Komrade Nikki asks me daily for five bucks or more too, I wonder where are all the big buck donors Slammawammy kept busting her about during the debates? They need to step up their game....
Not sure who the “he” is in the comment above…
I am 61 yo. I became self-aware at 27 yo. Meaning? I grew up and started paying attention. Meaning? Politics, economics etc. Then I discovered Rush Limbaugh......and my awareness became turbocharged.....and whatever you think of "right-wing" whatever, he was exactly right about Democrats. So was Joseph McCarthy.
Let's review: There is no doubt WW1 and WW2 were about stopping the takeover of then "super power" nations and insane leadership. Then, communism appeared. We(USA) have been fighting it ever since. USSR being replaced with China. The Vietnam War was about communism. Fact. Vietnam remains communist. Venezuela now. South America is full of this menace. Communism is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions by their own Govts. This is settled history.
Yet, with this truth in full, clear view-we have in our own gloriously free(relatively) country.....elements(growing alarmingly larger) begging for socialist/communist(these are the same eventually) Govts.
There aren't continents separated by oceans anymore. We(USA) have a global interest in what happens and by who.
The biggest problem we have is who makes those decisions.
We have seen what far-left(any really) Democrat/communist/socialist/liberal leadership is like. Never more clear than Biden/Harris.
The biggest existential threats are the Muslim religion/ Climate change religion/China/liberal(any really) Democrats. Not only to the planet but USA.
That said.....Do I believe Biden would start a war to stay out of jail?..........you bet. Do I believe the Climate zealots would destroy the USA's way of life(freedom/prosperity) for their cause?.....you bet.
Are we one stupid decision away?
Absolutely. See above.
Bro, the biggest threat to the US is the US, themselves, your population. China, Muslims, climate agenda, on and on are not existential threats to the country. Your people, hedgemony and government are.
The quest and bloodthirst for global dominance and control is what is now accelerating the unraveling of the west.
That's good because I'm not interested in going off on this tangent.
We were discussing the ‘68 election, which results were never in question. Just curious who the “he” was, unless it’s referencing a different election.
Fun fact: Humphrey carried Texas in ‘68, as LBJ’s influence remained strong in his home state.
"(who had enough sense not to bury Nixon when he lost in ‘60). "
From your own post, a squirrel go by?
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Post a reply to: anybody else kind of feel like we are one stupid decision away from WW3?