TV Coverage Pathetic

Rupert X
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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 12:53pm

It was the other heat-race that, apparently - had some action that should have

been featured = if you can only air one.

No mention (that I heard) of CHAD REED's omission from the line-up ?

No mention of LCQ ? Less talk, more racing.

Flashing back to a battle for 5-6 th ?

Only One (1) blurting of " No Doubt About It " ?

It's 2010 and we STILL hafta watch later ?

Disgusted in Fly-Over Country - r- Sir Bitch-A-Lot
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agreed .....but tis better than nothing. Smile
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the 15 minutes of blah blah before the heat race was what pissed me off most. Oh well
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It is the only game in my town, this time of year!

I am happy to have it to complain aboutTongue
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Yeah the whole, show the sport to bring the new fans in is bullshit... Less talk, more racing, more cameras... And someone directing the camera view so we don't miss every pass each race...

I'm pretty sure last year they missed almost all the crucial stuff and had to show it on replay...

What the hell ever happened to Picture in Picture... And... I don't need to see Erin to listen to her comments trackside... They don't show Ralph... Stay with the racing, with a insert vid of the big riders who have had bad starts...

There's sooooo much room for improvement...

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I really appreciate the fact we are getting coverage the next day, but i do see your frustration Rupert, i guess its just one of those things.
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"And he lights the candles!"
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Highsider wrote:
It is the only game in my town, this time of year!

I am happy to have it to complain aboutTongue


Jimi - we've been content to tolerate sub-par and sporadic TV coverage for better than a

decade now - or MORE.

It's time we rise up, grab burning limbs, agitate the peasants, surround the moats

and spray WD-40 into the air like it's confetti.

Pants on the ground,

SUPERCROSS should be a SATURDAY night TV STAPLE AND phenomenon in

housesholds across America. And it's not. We've let down our sport . Our fault.
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and many of us were forced to watch basketball or football pregame bs today!!
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not to mention the camera angles, i want a perspective on the floor not 500ft up from the nose bleeds.
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When Short was catching up to the lead battle Ralfe was listing the lap times of Stewart Hill and Dungey and then he said and fasted of them all is Andrew Short. And the time he said was slower then the first three he listed........
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Saturday Night Supercross... I love it.

Found myself checking out some boxing after the race and the background stories(fluff) helped, is that how new moto fans feel about the rider bios(fluff)???
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Somehow a featurette about James Stewart was deemed more important than covering the race.
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chillrich wrote:
Saturday Night Supercross... I love it. Found myself checking out some boxing after the race and the background stories(fluff) helped, is that how new moto fans...
Saturday Night Supercross... I love it.

Found myself checking out some boxing after the race and the background stories(fluff) helped, is that how new moto fans feel about the rider bios(fluff)???
its gotta be a 3 hour live show. duh.
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mcphilly wrote:
agreed .....but tis better than nothing. Smile
Maybe settling, but I agree also
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1/24/2010 7:26pm
I have to agree with you Rup..

The heat race with Stroupe, Stewart, Hill, and Short was action packed!!

They barely showed any of it!

It is what it is though..

Makes me appreciate the work that MX sports and everybody did on the nationals last year, with detailed coverage of the sport and diverse coverage of the races.
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1/24/2010 10:04pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 8:19pm
Crush wrote:
Yeah the whole, show the sport to bring the new fans in is bullshit... Less talk, more racing, more cameras... And someone directing the camera view...
Yeah the whole, show the sport to bring the new fans in is bullshit... Less talk, more racing, more cameras... And someone directing the camera view so we don't miss every pass each race...

I'm pretty sure last year they missed almost all the crucial stuff and had to show it on replay...

What the hell ever happened to Picture in Picture... And... I don't need to see Erin to listen to her comments trackside... They don't show Ralph... Stay with the racing, with a insert vid of the big riders who have had bad starts...

There's sooooo much room for improvement...
Oh, Crush, aren't you quite the couch potato critic. Quit being so ignorant. If CBS doesn't try to bring in new fans, it will go away. Feld will quit spending the money, and you'll be left without any big network coverage. You obviously have no idea about the money and effort it is taking to put on these broadcasts. In case you haven't noticed, supercross isn't exactly NASCAR, and there has to be an effort to bring in, and interest new fans. Not simply appease you whiners sitting in your armchair with a cold beer in your hand.

If you're so brilliant at television, why don't you submit a resume to CBS, Speed or Feld, and try your hand at it, and see how easy you think it is then. I'm sure you won't "miss every pass each race" because you know exactly how to do it. You talk the talk, so try walkin' the walk. I'm sure your mantle will be packed with Emmy's in no time.

More cameras cost more money, it's that simple. Even NASCRAP is cutting back, so be thankful for what you have and quit your bitching. There aren't 20 cameras to cover every bike, so you're obviously not going to get everything. Give Feld, SPEED & CBS some credit. The motorcycle industry isn't exactly raking in the big bucks at the moment, and they are taking a big chance on motorcycle racing. You want to go back to ESPN and wait 2 weeks to see it?

There is always room for improvement, but be thankful for what you have, and quit whining.
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1/24/2010 10:12pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 8:19pm
not to mention the camera angles, i want a perspective on the floor not 500ft up from the nose bleeds.
What show were you watching? I watched it, and saw plenty of great low angle shots during the racing. I happened to like the higher angles from time to time so I could see the track, and where the bikes were. It's called perspective. Perhaps you don't have an HD television?

There was plenty of floor perspective in my opinion, and the camera guys on the floor are risking life and limb to get those shots, I would imagine. It has to be dangerous out there.

Just like Crush, the television expert, you should submit your resume to CBS, SPEED & Feld, then we can see how the real experts do things.

I can't believe how whiney you guys are. If you don't like it, don't watch. Get out your little diecast bikes and you can have your own little race and not get a nose bleed from the camera angles.
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HAHA, you a camera guy for CBS or something?
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Bojangles wrote:
Oh, Crush, aren't you quite the couch potato critic. Quit being so ignorant. If CBS doesn't try to bring in new fans, it will go away...
Oh, Crush, aren't you quite the couch potato critic. Quit being so ignorant. If CBS doesn't try to bring in new fans, it will go away. Feld will quit spending the money, and you'll be left without any big network coverage. You obviously have no idea about the money and effort it is taking to put on these broadcasts. In case you haven't noticed, supercross isn't exactly NASCAR, and there has to be an effort to bring in, and interest new fans. Not simply appease you whiners sitting in your armchair with a cold beer in your hand.

If you're so brilliant at television, why don't you submit a resume to CBS, Speed or Feld, and try your hand at it, and see how easy you think it is then. I'm sure you won't "miss every pass each race" because you know exactly how to do it. You talk the talk, so try walkin' the walk. I'm sure your mantle will be packed with Emmy's in no time.

More cameras cost more money, it's that simple. Even NASCRAP is cutting back, so be thankful for what you have and quit your bitching. There aren't 20 cameras to cover every bike, so you're obviously not going to get everything. Give Feld, SPEED & CBS some credit. The motorcycle industry isn't exactly raking in the big bucks at the moment, and they are taking a big chance on motorcycle racing. You want to go back to ESPN and wait 2 weeks to see it?

There is always room for improvement, but be thankful for what you have, and quit whining.
Hey Bojangles... I work in advertising... so we'll leave it there...

And you missed my point... Does showing the pit party, comparable to every other sport motor sport around the world help bring in new fans?!?!?!

NO...

But what would, would be to get some more people watching, by having better coverage that shows all the racing... and all the passes... and all the accidents... More cameras might cost more... but you can't seriously tell me Feld is doing that bad!?!?! Have you ever thought about how much their pyro-show costs?!?! Give me some more cameras all day...

As for waiting two weeks, i'm in Australia, and it makes no fucking difference to me at all... I'd just rather they quit the celebrity lifestyle aspect which most fans, ESPECIALLY the new ones, who don't even know who these riders are, don't give a crap about...

As for it "Going away"... Umm... When was the first SX held?!?! It's not going anywhere... don't be so ignorant... The money making corporate machine is doing fine...

SHOW THE RACING! The product will do the rest...
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As always, I'm happy with the show. It's SX on High Def for pete's sake!
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oh, and STFU NOOB
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1/24/2010 11:08pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 8:20pm
Bojangles wrote:
Oh, Crush, aren't you quite the couch potato critic. Quit being so ignorant. If CBS doesn't try to bring in new fans, it will go away...
Oh, Crush, aren't you quite the couch potato critic. Quit being so ignorant. If CBS doesn't try to bring in new fans, it will go away. Feld will quit spending the money, and you'll be left without any big network coverage. You obviously have no idea about the money and effort it is taking to put on these broadcasts. In case you haven't noticed, supercross isn't exactly NASCAR, and there has to be an effort to bring in, and interest new fans. Not simply appease you whiners sitting in your armchair with a cold beer in your hand.

If you're so brilliant at television, why don't you submit a resume to CBS, Speed or Feld, and try your hand at it, and see how easy you think it is then. I'm sure you won't "miss every pass each race" because you know exactly how to do it. You talk the talk, so try walkin' the walk. I'm sure your mantle will be packed with Emmy's in no time.

More cameras cost more money, it's that simple. Even NASCRAP is cutting back, so be thankful for what you have and quit your bitching. There aren't 20 cameras to cover every bike, so you're obviously not going to get everything. Give Feld, SPEED & CBS some credit. The motorcycle industry isn't exactly raking in the big bucks at the moment, and they are taking a big chance on motorcycle racing. You want to go back to ESPN and wait 2 weeks to see it?

There is always room for improvement, but be thankful for what you have, and quit whining.
Crush wrote:
Hey Bojangles... I work in advertising... so we'll leave it there... And you missed my point... Does showing the pit party, comparable to every other sport...
Hey Bojangles... I work in advertising... so we'll leave it there...

And you missed my point... Does showing the pit party, comparable to every other sport motor sport around the world help bring in new fans?!?!?!

NO...

But what would, would be to get some more people watching, by having better coverage that shows all the racing... and all the passes... and all the accidents... More cameras might cost more... but you can't seriously tell me Feld is doing that bad!?!?! Have you ever thought about how much their pyro-show costs?!?! Give me some more cameras all day...

As for waiting two weeks, i'm in Australia, and it makes no fucking difference to me at all... I'd just rather they quit the celebrity lifestyle aspect which most fans, ESPECIALLY the new ones, who don't even know who these riders are, don't give a crap about...

As for it "Going away"... Umm... When was the first SX held?!?! It's not going anywhere... don't be so ignorant... The money making corporate machine is doing fine...

SHOW THE RACING! The product will do the rest...
Advertising, huh? That explains it. Why leave it there? Do you not see all the sponsor logos in the pit party area. You, being in advertising, should have some idea of what that means to get your logos on tv. Not necessarily to bring in more fans, but to bring in more money. Even on the fan side, the pit parties are great for the kids trying to get autographs and free stuff. It's a day long event, not just a race. You're the one who is missing the point. It's all about trying to get people interested in coming to the events as well, not just tuning into to see the racing on tv. You have to sell tickets to make money as well.

I can't speak for Feld. Are they hurting? Probably not, but I'm sure they are cutting back like everyone else. They do so much more than supercross, and the shows they provide certainly aren't cheap. High def cameras are expensive to rent, plus an operator, hotel, rooms, travel. per diem, etc. It's not that simple to just add cameras. You're in advertising, surely you have some concept of a budget.

The whole premise of building up a sport is to build stars and heroes. You have to show the new guys to the audience and at least attempt to make stars out of them. No stars, no fans. If some of the new guys with talent and a personality are given a chance, maybe people will give a crap about them. There was a point in time when nobody gave a crap about McGrath, Carmichael, Reed & Stewart. Can you wrap your advertising mind around that fact. Everybody starts out as a nobody.

The "going away" comment was for CBS only. Of course the sport won't go away, but it very well could go back to extremely undesirable air times, on less than desirable networks. Ok, so you don't care because you live in Australia. Fine. But I live in America, and I do care. The Australian supercross series isn't even on tv here, so I could care less about that too. Funny that you call me ignorant. You stated that "the money making corporate machine is doing fine." That was ignorant. Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, Yamaha, Dunlop Tires, and the list goes on, have pulled out all their support for AMA road racing. I like road racing too, but don't tell me the money making corporate machine is doing fine. Tell that to all the mechanics & riders who are out of work. Maybe things are ok in OZ, but it's not so great here. Look up the bike sales numbers on the internet, Mr. Advertising, and tell me about the large number of motorbikes being sold at the moment.



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Crush wrote:
oh, and STFU NOOB
Real mature, but you're an Australian, so that's a typical response. Go drink some Victoria Bitter and grow a brain.
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HAHA, you a camera guy for CBS or something?
No, but I'm a fan of the sport, and it's the same guys always whining. This year has the potential to be one of the best ever, and all you can do is complain. Why be so negative? Enjoy what we have before all you see is NASCAR.

I know some guys on the camera crew, and they're doing the best they can, and they actually give a shit, so I'm standing up for them. They could get hurt or even killed doing their job, so give them a break. Especially the guys on the floor. There isn't one area of the floor that is 100% safe, and they risk it to give the audience the best shots they can. There are only so many places a body can stand out there.

have you been on the floor during a race? Then you'd now what I was talking about.

Despite the complaints, keep watching!!
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Crush wrote:
oh, and STFU NOOB
Bojangles wrote:
Real mature, but you're an Australian, so that's a typical response. Go drink some Victoria Bitter and grow a brain.
Just a tip noob. If your trying to out smart someone in your first couple of posts, don't stereotype a whole country on one person. And also, if you knew anything about this place, noob bashing is quite the sport around here, when it is allowed to be played that is Wink
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1/24/2010 11:32pm Edited Date/Time 1/24/2010 11:35pm
Crush wrote:
oh, and STFU NOOB
Bojangles wrote:
Real mature, but you're an Australian, so that's a typical response. Go drink some Victoria Bitter and grow a brain.
jackson222 wrote:
Just a tip noob. If your trying to out smart someone in your first couple of posts, don't stereotype a whole country on one person. And...
Just a tip noob. If your trying to out smart someone in your first couple of posts, don't stereotype a whole country on one person. And also, if you knew anything about this place, noob bashing is quite the sport around here, when it is allowed to be played that is Wink
Yeah, I know about noob bashing. I don't mind it, i think it's funny, and I did expect it! I actually take no offense, But I know the Australians can dish it out as well as take it too. I love Australia, and have been there a few times, and don't they love their Victoria Bitter? I know Foster's is considered piss over there.
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Bojangles wrote:
Real mature, but you're an Australian, so that's a typical response. Go drink some Victoria Bitter and grow a brain.
jackson222 wrote:
Just a tip noob. If your trying to out smart someone in your first couple of posts, don't stereotype a whole country on one person. And...
Just a tip noob. If your trying to out smart someone in your first couple of posts, don't stereotype a whole country on one person. And also, if you knew anything about this place, noob bashing is quite the sport around here, when it is allowed to be played that is Wink
Bojangles wrote:
Yeah, I know about noob bashing. I don't mind it, i think it's funny, and I did expect it! I actually take no offense, But I...
Yeah, I know about noob bashing. I don't mind it, i think it's funny, and I did expect it! I actually take no offense, But I know the Australians can dish it out as well as take it too. I love Australia, and have been there a few times, and don't they love their Victoria Bitter? I know Foster's is considered piss over there.
I hate VB, worst beer around i think, it just has a reputation as "the aussie beer," mainly through self advertising. It is quite popular though.

Foster's I think is growing less popular each year, its uncommon to see it on tap at a bar.

Oh and welcome to motodrive. Its nice to see that the odd noob can post something more then a paragraph long!
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1/24/2010 11:40pm Edited Date/Time 1/24/2010 11:41pm
jackson222 wrote:
Just a tip noob. If your trying to out smart someone in your first couple of posts, don't stereotype a whole country on one person. And...
Just a tip noob. If your trying to out smart someone in your first couple of posts, don't stereotype a whole country on one person. And also, if you knew anything about this place, noob bashing is quite the sport around here, when it is allowed to be played that is Wink
Bojangles wrote:
Yeah, I know about noob bashing. I don't mind it, i think it's funny, and I did expect it! I actually take no offense, But I...
Yeah, I know about noob bashing. I don't mind it, i think it's funny, and I did expect it! I actually take no offense, But I know the Australians can dish it out as well as take it too. I love Australia, and have been there a few times, and don't they love their Victoria Bitter? I know Foster's is considered piss over there.
jackson222 wrote:
I hate VB, worst beer around i think, it just has a reputation as "the aussie beer," mainly through self advertising. It is quite popular though...
I hate VB, worst beer around i think, it just has a reputation as "the aussie beer," mainly through self advertising. It is quite popular though.

Foster's I think is growing less popular each year, its uncommon to see it on tap at a bar.

Oh and welcome to motodrive. Its nice to see that the odd noob can post something more then a paragraph long!
What is the most popular Australian beer now? I drank a great deal of VB while driving on the Null Arbor Plain, avoiding fires Abo's were setting on the road. One of the best trips of my life, though. Thanks for the welcome.
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VB. Vomit Bomb.


I thought the coverage was great.
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Bojangles wrote:
Yeah, I know about noob bashing. I don't mind it, i think it's funny, and I did expect it! I actually take no offense, But I...
Yeah, I know about noob bashing. I don't mind it, i think it's funny, and I did expect it! I actually take no offense, But I know the Australians can dish it out as well as take it too. I love Australia, and have been there a few times, and don't they love their Victoria Bitter? I know Foster's is considered piss over there.
jackson222 wrote:
I hate VB, worst beer around i think, it just has a reputation as "the aussie beer," mainly through self advertising. It is quite popular though...
I hate VB, worst beer around i think, it just has a reputation as "the aussie beer," mainly through self advertising. It is quite popular though.

Foster's I think is growing less popular each year, its uncommon to see it on tap at a bar.

Oh and welcome to motodrive. Its nice to see that the odd noob can post something more then a paragraph long!
Bojangles wrote:
What is the most popular Australian beer now? I drank a great deal of VB while driving on the Null Arbor Plain, avoiding fires Abo's were...
What is the most popular Australian beer now? I drank a great deal of VB while driving on the Null Arbor Plain, avoiding fires Abo's were setting on the road. One of the best trips of my life, though. Thanks for the welcome.
I'm hoping to do that trip myself within the next few years. Couldn't really tell you what the favourite beer is these days, probably toss up between Tooheys (New or Old), VB and Carlton Draught. But the more exotic beers also do really well these days so who knows.

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