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Everyone calls this guy an asshat yet some of his outlandish statements/predictions end up being true. Not sure how he is connected with industry insiders but he ends up pulling correct information out of his asshat over and over again. Who knows?
This is very smart of prado to race a few races before possibly signing a contact in america...look what happend to vialle to go to america without and experience in supercros......that hasn't really been a succes so far......
It would be interesting to compile his ‘reports’ and see what his success rate is on reporting correct info. I’m not gonna do it. But it would be interesting.
He doesn't want to get the point....he just wants to keep spinning shit to fit his narrative.
He's another one of the "smartest guys in the room" that everyone else thinks is an idiot.
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Is that the right way to disagree?
You should have told me not to put my finger in your silencer.
i wouldn't have done it if I knew you didn't like it
Yea ask roger d. About pastranas choices lol.
Roczen raced the entire SX Lites West Region and two premier class races on a KTM 350. Little different then dipping your toes in for 3 rounds.
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I seem to remember this kind of thing happening in the 90s to 00s with some of the MXGP guys. I also seem to remember they all had some learning curve before they looked comfortable.
I dont understand this whole narrative thats taking root that vialle somehow had a failure of a season over here. He came over having never raced supercross before, and had the normal ups and downs you would expect from a sx rookie. His best sx finish was a 4th and he was around a 4-7th place guy in his debut year. Then he moved to outdoors where he had never seen any of the tracks before and started out as a consistent 4th place guy. He still had a few more bumps in the road as expected, but by the halfway point of the season he won southwick. From there he hovered around 5th and ended his season on the podium at ironman.
Thats a pretty solid year. Most ppl expected that this was going to be a year of figuring out how everything works over here and getting used to the bike and tracks. For him to get better as the year went on, get a few podiums, and even a win, and come out of the season in 1 piece should be looked at as a successful first year. Now he has a base to build off of going into next year and I wouldnt be surprised if hes a title threat.
Ahh yes, dirtbikelover.com. The most reputable source in moto history. They just link to Cooksey's video as the source.
Never heard of them, but saw it pop up after seeing this thread. Feel free to ignore it, I have no horse in this race
If you compare Marv's first season (13/5) and Ferrandis' first season (6/5) to Tom's (8/6), he definitely did ok. He might be the only racer in France with no SX experience, but he has a ton of talent, so he'll pick it up in the next year or two.
If this happens, what number will he use?
661?
I think people just had unrealistic expectations. You'd think a two time world champion would run circles around Chris Blose but that's just not how it works. Even outdoors it took a whole year to get used to everything. There's a reason why it's been like 40 years since someone came from Europe and won a title in his first try.
That said I wouldn't be surprised if Prado had a similar first race to what Vialle did. Holeshot the main, lead a lap or 2 while the contenders make their way up (maybe Friese in 2nd can hold them off for a bit) and then fade back. As long as the makes the mains and stays healthy the results probably dont really matter
Prado said on Gypsy tales it's a possibility, so cooksey must have some connections
You have no clou,Roczen raced the first 3 SX the year when he was winning the MX2 worldchampionship!
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Kenny literally raced the whole Lites West series and some selected premier class races just as he said. Check your facts next time.
It reminds me of how ppl remember villopotos gp season. Ppl look back on it like he went over there, sucked, crashed, and went home. Thats not exactly the whole story though. The thing that everybody is saying is so hard for prado to do, come over here on a 450 and jump straight into the deep end is exactly what he did but in reverse. The same way you dont see gp riders come over here and be successful going straight to 450s you also dont see us riders go over there and jump right into the 450s and be successful. That being said villopotos results were as follows:
Qatar: first race ever, 7th
Thailand: second race ever, 1st
Argentina: 4th
Trentino: crash while in 3rd, 11th
Thats pretty damn good imo and shows how fast he was to win right away. Ppl always talk about how its sooo different over there and really hard to get used to, yet it took him no time at all. I think if anything the results show he was a title threat straight off the bat and if he didnt crash was going to be a problem.
You're right. I also don't get why people talk so negative about Villo and that season. He wasn't the only top guy that crashed out by the way. Nagl, Cairoli and Desalle were race winners and championship contenders in 2015 and they all crashed out of the season. Fun fact: the rider that has won the MXGP title that year (Febvre) had less points than Villopoto by the time he broke his ass.
He raced some SX before he won his mx2 title,that‘s my point!I dont see any difference between him and Prado risking an injury due to sx.
If there is a chance of him racing the first 3 rounds in ‘24 then that kind of tells us that his testing must’ve gone pretty well. GasGas and the KTM group on the US side will have been able to have a good look at him and I’m certain that him racing any SX in ‘24 wouldn’t be an option if there wasn’t agreement on both sides that he was capable.
If memory serves Febvre was on it that year he would have been hard to beat being Villo's first time over the GP's I don't think he would have beat him.
Villo at the time was the best rider in the world, had he have given it more time maybe more effort he would have done very well.
It's going to be interesting to see although I do think racing Paris SX would be a nice warm up for him.
Lewis Philips is interviewing JP61 in Milan.. we should know son more news.
Go punch him... see what happens.
Lol gotta find a way to keep arguing when you were clearly wrong, and told me I had no clue. Roczen was commited to racing Supercross and coming to the US. Prado isn't committed to it, he's dabbling with the idea. And Roczen was 16 at the time, racing the Lites class. Prado will be 23 and debuting in the 450 class against the guys who have been riding supercross since they were 13, that sounds a bit more risky if you'd ask me
Prado has 3 titles and Roczen had no titles when he started racing sx.
I don't know if you've ever ridding a supercross track. I'm going to assume you haven't. Those titles don't really translate. How is a MXGP track similar to Supercross in any way? There is a reason any video circulating of Prado riding supercross has him riding the tamed down whoops backwards. Because they didn't want to RISK it.
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