Wsx Abu Dhabi thoughts ?

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aees 11/6/2023 2:01pm
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aees wrote:
All of them? If they knew it was a 2 race season with WSX, my guess is pretty much all us riders would have done their...

All of them? If they knew it was a 2 race season with WSX, my guess is pretty much all us riders would have done their season completely differently. 

LungButter wrote:

When you put it like that....it almost seems criminal what WSX has done...

 

If it was dealt with as B2C promises and jobs directly with riders they would be in the shit, open anyone wanting to go after them atleast in EU. If they where a public company, listed, likewise you could go after them with how it's been running. 

So no, it's not far from it even if it's not the case the way it is setup. And also, no one would go after them since they are future income generator.

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slumpstone 11/6/2023 2:05pm
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Magoofan wrote:
For the record, I did not/will not watch these races as they are a complete mockery of the sport. Whatever people think of Friese...he is spot...

For the record, I did not/will not watch these races as they are a complete mockery of the sport.

Whatever people think of Friese...he is spot on with his opening comments....

"I mean I I think if you put a bunch of money on the line like we have here and put us on an arena across track, I think that's that's the way it's going to go.    At  least for me this is how I make a living.  I'm not here to just ride around and have fun,  I'm here to here to make some money and pay my bills so that's that's what we're doing.  We're battling for for position and if these guys want to want to take it easy they can take it easy,  but I'm going to race hard."

I don't like or dislike Friese, on camera he comes across as unlikeable.  No idea what he's like outside of the limelight.   I do respect the heart, the drive and the brutal honesty.      Friese is the Honey badger, he don't give a shit.       

Rubbin in racing....    Got no issue with that unless someone purposefully tries to hurt someone.   

 

As to the penalty/off track thing being discussed (I did not see it)...it's not up to Vince to enforce the rules.   The officials let him keep 3rd.      This is another reason these races are a mockery. 

justinbogleswhipfoot wrote:
Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on cross jumping? I didn’t grow up in the 70s/80s. Was cross jumping common then? Didn’t see it during...

Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on cross jumping? I didn’t grow up in the 70s/80s. Was cross jumping common then? Didn’t see it during the 90s but definitely saw some bar banging which, like all the riders have mentioned, is perfectly acceptable. 

Magoofan wrote:
Someone on here said it best years ago in regards to cross jumping.... (I remembered the post, had to search for it) "Let me be perfectly...

Someone on here said it best years ago in regards to cross jumping.... (I remembered the post, had to search for it)

"Let me be perfectly clear for y'all. If you're in front, it's your fucking track. All of it. From tuff block to turf block. You can go whereever the fuck you want to go. Swerve side to side, stomp on the damn brakes, jump the jumps from where you want to, whatever you want. The guy behind is responsible to get past you, period."

I will only add this:  Got a problem with it....get a better start.    

Yeah well whoever said that is a moron(I don’t care who it was) when you cross jump someone it’s the most dangerous thing that you can do. Ask JB19 about getting cross jumped in Vegas 

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slumpstone 11/6/2023 2:25pm
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DonM wrote:
And there not getting paid what they were promised…many of them now regret racing WSX instead of outdoors and SMX where they would have made way...

And there not getting paid what they were promised…many of them now regret racing WSX instead of outdoors and SMX where they would have made way more money…

ekozy39 wrote:
who other than Rozcen was maybe going to race outdoors or SMX and maybe make "way" more money?  SX Global has always been pretty generous with...

who other than Rozcen was maybe going to race outdoors or SMX and maybe make "way" more money? 

SX Global has always been pretty generous with the appearance fees, don't see many lined up in the WSX gate with the potential to have done better elsewhere , except for 94?

 

DonM wrote:
By the time the WSX races were canceled it was too late for many to put a program together that would allow them to race outdoors...

By the time the WSX races were canceled it was too late for many to put a program together that would allow them to race outdoors and qualify for SMX….and beside KR who exactly has WSX been generous to in paying appearance fees? Tomac for one race last year? The riders and teams did not get paid for the canceled rounds…

All depends on how they worded their individual contracts

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justinbogleswhipfoot wrote:
Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on cross jumping? I didn’t grow up in the 70s/80s. Was cross jumping common then? Didn’t see it during...

Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on cross jumping? I didn’t grow up in the 70s/80s. Was cross jumping common then? Didn’t see it during the 90s but definitely saw some bar banging which, like all the riders have mentioned, is perfectly acceptable. 

Magoofan wrote:
Someone on here said it best years ago in regards to cross jumping.... (I remembered the post, had to search for it) "Let me be perfectly...

Someone on here said it best years ago in regards to cross jumping.... (I remembered the post, had to search for it)

"Let me be perfectly clear for y'all. If you're in front, it's your fucking track. All of it. From tuff block to turf block. You can go whereever the fuck you want to go. Swerve side to side, stomp on the damn brakes, jump the jumps from where you want to, whatever you want. The guy behind is responsible to get past you, period."

I will only add this:  Got a problem with it....get a better start.    

slumpstone wrote:
Yeah well whoever said that is a moron(I don’t care who it was) when you cross jump someone it’s the most dangerous thing that you can...

Yeah well whoever said that is a moron(I don’t care who it was) when you cross jump someone it’s the most dangerous thing that you can do. Ask JB19 about getting cross jumped in Vegas 

Agree completely!  I feel some statements show who has never raced, and possibly not ridden, no matter what they try to claim.  It takes about one time when some dumb fuck cross jumps right in front of you, as you hold your line, and clips you.  That lead to a broken rib on that second uphill double on that northern most uphill double double at Thunder Valley.  Anyone that says cross jumping is part of racing is a know nothing dumb ass…even if he is a pro.

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-MAVERICK- wrote:
 

 

Okay….gross….

Kenny…I am a HUGE fan but god I hope you never get jock itch.

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Pop Shmoke 11/7/2023 4:33am
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I feel like Braytons comments on the track were spot on, the track was much worse than it needed to be due to a bad layout. Its actually a recurring theme. He mentioned how the us open and some over seas races had arenas that were just as small, but they were fine. The problem was a 90 degree thrn after the whoops, and multiple switch backs. For some reason they keep adding switch backs and its always dumb no matter how many times they do it. It never works. They really need to get their track building under control.
 

Theyve also had MANY times now where the first corner is a disaster, or like one of the aus x races I think melborne, it didnt even exist! Remember the race where the start straight went right into a straight wall? Theyre making the tracks much worse than they even need to be and really need to clean it up. Yes the arena was small here, but the 90 degree turns and switch backs made it much worse than it had to be.

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Motofinne 11/7/2023 5:59am
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justinbogleswhipfoot wrote:
Podcast with Adam Bailey about the Abu Dhabi round. It seems he agrees with the riders that Vince/MCR may have taken the super villain thing a...

Podcast with Adam Bailey about the Abu Dhabi round. It seems he agrees with the riders that Vince/MCR may have taken the super villain thing a bit too far. The AUS round should be interesting…

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-steve-matthes-show-on-racerx/…

Had to stop at 30 minutes (kinda surprised i lasted that long). There is just no credibility left in the whole series and the people behind it.

 

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justinbogleswhipfoot 11/7/2023 7:19am
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justinbogleswhipfoot wrote:
Podcast with Adam Bailey about the Abu Dhabi round. It seems he agrees with the riders that Vince/MCR may have taken the super villain thing a...

Podcast with Adam Bailey about the Abu Dhabi round. It seems he agrees with the riders that Vince/MCR may have taken the super villain thing a bit too far. The AUS round should be interesting…

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-steve-matthes-show-on-racerx/…

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Had to stop at 30 minutes (kinda surprised i lasted that long). There is just no credibility left in the whole series and the people behind...

Had to stop at 30 minutes (kinda surprised i lasted that long). There is just no credibility left in the whole series and the people behind it.

 

I guess in Adam’s defense he does say that they do not want this to be like the AMA series that we have been comparing it too. He also agrees having rounds at this time of year is more important than having as many rounds as possible and that we should expect 5-6 rounds next year in a way more timely manner to make it easier for the teams/riders and more enjoyable for the fans. Growing pains for sure I just hope for their sake that enough quality riders are still interested in participating next year. 

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LewisPhillips wrote:

It looks like I'm potentially going and I'm VERY interested to observe the changes/improvements since Birmingham.

I expect some significant and noteworthy changes!

Lewis, in all honesty, I thought since you were invited in a nice place, seemed excited by the event and were expecting changes for the better, your opinion would be pretty positive.

The MX business is a small fishbowl with lots of important people who don't like journalists telling it like it is, and there's nothing to be gained by angering promoters, teams or racers... Hence it's rather difficult to know the actual truth on what's going on behind the scenes and most reports are often sugarcoating (or "forgetting") the problems when there are some.

When I read your editorial, I had the feeling you were actually looking for something nice to say to counter balance all the negative from the racers about the actual race conditions. "Good opening ceremonies, and there were actually people there to attend the race", lol, I'm amazed... Really didn't have the feeling you were burning any bridges...

But then I listened to your podcast today...

https://www.vitalmx.com/features/mxgp-podcast-show-electric-prado-claims

SX Global accusing you of "sabotaging their championship" is the most absurd (and funny) thing I've heard in a while...

Sure, you're the one who set the bar this high with your agressive communication and non stop marketing bs, you're the one who failed to organize so many races, you're the one who lost its investor, you're the one who built a pit bike track, shame on you.

A journalist who gives the mike to the racers to say how they feel should immedialely be banished, lol...

Like Wheeler said "They just have to do things better and people will have better things to say".
These guys did almost everything wrong from the very start, and so far, it didn't get much better.

The funniest part is that by coming after you, these "world class masterminds", as they called themselves in their PR releases, probably made you want to report that nice Roczen quote: "After the first turn of the first race, I wanted to go home".

I'm sure they'll enjoy it.

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Terminator 11/17/2023 3:11am
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justinbogleswhipfoot wrote:
Podcast with Adam Bailey about the Abu Dhabi round. It seems he agrees with the riders that Vince/MCR may have taken the super villain thing a...

Podcast with Adam Bailey about the Abu Dhabi round. It seems he agrees with the riders that Vince/MCR may have taken the super villain thing a bit too far. The AUS round should be interesting…

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-steve-matthes-show-on-racerx/…

If he didn’t agree with the riders he would lose majority support, it’s easier to get rid of one person and the rest 

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Obviously, the riders didn't agree with Bailey regarding the track.

Laughing

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