Jett Is Turning This Season Into a Joke.

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I'm impressed with Jett, of course...but I would'nt say he is a better rider than Stew, RC, RV or any other dominant rider that has gone before him. I will say that his style and the way he handles the bike around the track is smoother and more technically perfect than most of the other riders. Most of the others had to ride on the ragged edge to ride at that speed...but Jett seem to be actually holding back, and still able to turn amazingly low lap times...riding at the limit of what he is comfy with, not over it so he can avoid throwing it away.

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MxAddic wrote:
I don't remember the Goat or Bubba jumping out front and dominating every moto from the start. They certainly had races they did but not every...

I don't remember the Goat or Bubba jumping out front and dominating every moto from the start. They certainly had races they did but not every one.

Stewart has the record for number of consecutive laps led which is over 200, Jett was on 90ish before Kenny grabbed a few. So it seems like he must have dominated a lot more than Jett has so far.

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KTM47 wrote:
Stewart has the record for number of consecutive laps led which is over 200, Jett was on 90ish before Kenny grabbed a few. So it seems...

Stewart has the record for number of consecutive laps led which is over 200, Jett was on 90ish before Kenny grabbed a few. So it seems like he must have dominated a lot more than Jett has so far.

The number of laps lead, versus the possible total available, as a percentage, would be the correct measure.

There are lots more laps to lead so we have no idea where #18 will land.

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7/10/2023 9:29am Edited Date/Time 7/10/2023 9:30am
KTM47 wrote:
Stewart has the record for number of consecutive laps led which is over 200, Jett was on 90ish before Kenny grabbed a few. So it seems...

Stewart has the record for number of consecutive laps led which is over 200, Jett was on 90ish before Kenny grabbed a few. So it seems like he must have dominated a lot more than Jett has so far.

Goldmember wrote:
The number of laps lead, versus the possible total available, as a percentage, would be the correct measure. There are lots more laps to lead so...

The number of laps lead, versus the possible total available, as a percentage, would be the correct measure.

There are lots more laps to lead so we have no idea where #18 will land.

But to show dominance it has to be consecutive laps led. This number shows that nobody else could get to the front of a race for so long, once somebody else does, you have to start building again. Its such a tough number to build, which is why over 200 is so impressive.

Laps led as percentage of laps available would be 100%

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7/10/2023 9:52am Edited Date/Time 7/11/2023 2:38am
KTM47 wrote:
But to show dominance it has to be consecutive laps led. This number shows that nobody else could get to the front of a race for...

But to show dominance it has to be consecutive laps led. This number shows that nobody else could get to the front of a race for so long, once somebody else does, you have to start building again. Its such a tough number to build, which is why over 200 is so impressive.

Laps led as percentage of laps available would be 100%

There is no proof of dominance by leading X number of laps at any particular time. It is the percentage I mentioned that allows a comparison between riders.

You are framing your argument to throw shade on Lawrence.

I get the sense that Stew is mindful that his legacy is few championships, plenty of wins, and his riding style influence. Wink

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KTM47 wrote:
But to show dominance it has to be consecutive laps led. This number shows that nobody else could get to the front of a race for...

But to show dominance it has to be consecutive laps led. This number shows that nobody else could get to the front of a race for so long, once somebody else does, you have to start building again. Its such a tough number to build, which is why over 200 is so impressive.

Laps led as percentage of laps available would be 100%

Goldmember wrote:
There is no proof of dominance by leading X number of laps at any particular time. It is the percentage I mentioned that allows a comparison...

There is no proof of dominance by leading X number of laps at any particular time. It is the percentage I mentioned that allows a comparison between riders.

You are framing your argument to throw shade on Lawrence.

I get the sense that Stew is mindful that his legacy is few championships, plenty of wins, and his riding style influence. Wink

Not at all, I am loving watching Jett dominate, I think he is an amazing rider, one that doesn't come along very often and we are all lucky be watching him every weekend.

But also he has a long way to go to get to over 200 laps in the lead, which is when you are totally dominating. Say 35 laps every round, so probably about 6 or 7 rounds without anybody else getting a lap in front is amazing, Jett looks like it could be possible this year, but there are so many factors that could affect that.

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The season is not a joke. It’s serious business and so far, a serious ass kicking.

RC and JS are clearly fans of the talent and skill Jett displays. Seems reasonable.

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7/10/2023 1:17pm

Didn't Webb say he just followed Jett around " it was like watching poetry in motion " when he podiumed the last time ever on a KTM lol

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Sport has risen up a notch. Time to catch up.

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James was Jett on steroids….my comment a few days ago. This video is proof. Js7 was the most exciting racer ever , period!

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steveloyer wrote:
I dont get all this hate, Jett has elevated the sport to a new level like RC and Stew. Was there this much bitching when they...

I dont get all this hate, Jett has elevated the sport to a new level like RC and Stew. Was there this much bitching when they were doing this same very thing?

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It's simply coz he isnt American.

And that's why you see so many if tomac was there comments. Coz he is amercias last saviour. 

I don’t see many JL haters

7/10/2023 6:01pm
mx4 wrote:
James was Jett on steroids….my comment a few days ago. This video is proof. Js7 was the most exciting racer ever , period!

James was Jett on steroids….my comment a few days ago. This video is proof. Js7 was the most exciting racer ever , period!

yep

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mx4 wrote:
James was Jett on steroids….my comment a few days ago. This video is proof. Js7 was the most exciting racer ever , period!

James was Jett on steroids….my comment a few days ago. This video is proof. Js7 was the most exciting racer ever , period!

James in 2008 was perfection. Up until Red Bud he was racing, probably, the best version of Alessi in his career. Mike was beating 3rd by 20sec and Bubba had 20sec on him. He was holeshotting EVERY moto. 

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mx4 wrote:
James was Jett on steroids….my comment a few days ago. This video is proof. Js7 was the most exciting racer ever , period!

James was Jett on steroids….my comment a few days ago. This video is proof. Js7 was the most exciting racer ever , period!

Bubba was exciting and thrilling to watch which made it amazing...

Jett is effortless and rides the track unlike any one else whos racing besides him. which also makes it amazing to watch..

2 different people, 2 different reasons why they are amazing.

Dont think your able to compare the two. 

who knows.. in 10 years time we could say a new up and coming rider is the new Jett lawrence.

 

Sports evolving again, just like it did when each of the greats hit the scene in the past. 

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7/10/2023 6:39pm Edited Date/Time 7/10/2023 6:40pm
decano51 wrote:
Bubba was exciting and thrilling to watch which made it amazing... Jett is effortless and rides the track unlike any one else whos racing besides him...

Bubba was exciting and thrilling to watch which made it amazing...

Jett is effortless and rides the track unlike any one else whos racing besides him. which also makes it amazing to watch..

2 different people, 2 different reasons why they are amazing.

Dont think your able to compare the two. 

who knows.. in 10 years time we could say a new up and coming rider is the new Jett lawrence.

 

Sports evolving again, just like it did when each of the greats hit the scene in the past. 

It didn't seem like it was possible to go faster than James was going. He looked Mach 10. Jett looks like he's coasting sometimes. My buddies said in person Jett's unreal. He was like "I can't explain it." I understood what he meant lol

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mx4 wrote:
James was Jett on steroids….my comment a few days ago. This video is proof. Js7 was the most exciting racer ever , period!

James was Jett on steroids….my comment a few days ago. This video is proof. Js7 was the most exciting racer ever , period!

decano51 wrote:
Bubba was exciting and thrilling to watch which made it amazing... Jett is effortless and rides the track unlike any one else whos racing besides him...

Bubba was exciting and thrilling to watch which made it amazing...

Jett is effortless and rides the track unlike any one else whos racing besides him. which also makes it amazing to watch..

2 different people, 2 different reasons why they are amazing.

Dont think your able to compare the two. 

who knows.. in 10 years time we could say a new up and coming rider is the new Jett lawrence.

 

Sports evolving again, just like it did when each of the greats hit the scene in the past. 

Jett style looks effortless and smooth yes.

Js7 is comparable ( undefeated season )

Js7 and RC evolved racing to what is it today, I don’t think it’s changed much…

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The best thing Honda and Jett’s team did that was totally different than the other greats was start his 450 career in the outdoors. I’ve said it before, Jett’s had about 3 months of testing and getting that bike dialed in for outdoors. He came into the outdoors better prepared that any rookie before him and better prepared than his competition, which is just another one of his and his teams attributes. 

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It’s pretty amazing, what he is doing so different on the track to the others? It’s obvious they are pushing trying to catch him, and he is just cruising. I would love to see data comparisons between them. 
 

Watching Sexton and Dylan (given they have reasons for not having that last 10% they need to win), they look like they are going so damn fast, and pushing so hard. makes you wonder how you can go faster than that on a track like the wick. Then you see Jett, who is going faster, has more speed to burn I’m sure of it, and he looks like he’s out trail riding. Incredible. 

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MxAddic wrote:
I don't remember the Goat or Bubba jumping out front and dominating every moto from the start. They certainly had races they did but not every...

I don't remember the Goat or Bubba jumping out front and dominating every moto from the start. They certainly had races they did but not every one.

KTM47 wrote:
Stewart has the record for number of consecutive laps led which is over 200, Jett was on 90ish before Kenny grabbed a few. So it seems...

Stewart has the record for number of consecutive laps led which is over 200, Jett was on 90ish before Kenny grabbed a few. So it seems like he must have dominated a lot more than Jett has so far.

2008 was also a weaker field than this year.

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