Sexton...?

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I'm hearing we are probably not going to see him back for the outdoors.  We'll see.

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6/22/2023 9:37am

wouldn't be a bad idea. mono can really mess you up. best to just chill out. 

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6/22/2023 9:38am

I have a theory that there was a gentleman's agreement between him and HRC to let him walk early.

He is definitely shaking that orange bike down as we speak.

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6/22/2023 9:43am

Dude's probably waxing his Lambo right now

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6/22/2023 9:46am

What a colossal bummer. I wait for mx all year and I'm a big fan of Chase and Jett. I really wouldn't pull for either guy to win more. Just to see them battle would have been great. I didn't watch sx all that much this year but I always watch every single minute of mx. Boo!

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6/22/2023 10:05am
pilotdude wrote:

I'm hearing we are probably not going to see him back for the outdoors.  We'll see.

The source is who?

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6/22/2023 10:06am
disbanded wrote:

Dude's probably waxing his Lambo right now

More like the dolphin.

To my eyes, Sexton isn't up for the challenge with Jett, at least right now.  Seems like a head case that makes a lot of unforced errors, which we have clearly seen the last couple of years.  He surely doesn't have the fortitude that Stanton had being essentially 2nd fiddle to RJ.

 

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6/22/2023 10:09am

No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the manufactures only pay a championship bonus. For factory riders, getting 2nd (or worse. I know, been 2nd a couple times) or getting 6th, has the same value/reward. It's why historically you saw champions, past champions or potential champions just not bother come back from an injury. RC took 04 SX off and went on to go 24-0 outdoors. I'm sure he could've came back for some SX but decided not to. He's not the only one, just the most famous one... 

As far as Sexton goes, it has to be more than a concussion obviously. We hear mono, we hear relationship with Honda, we hear he's going to KTM. Seems like lot of stuff going on for him after an unexpected and dreamy SX season ending...

Will we see him work some kind of a release with Honda (after the Honda SX bonus clears haha) and show on a different bike in September in North Carolina? With the amount of money at stakes for 3 races, I'm sure everyone eligible will show up for them/it (races/bag)... 

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6/22/2023 10:10am

How was the cell phone reception for this rumor?

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6/22/2023 10:23am
disbanded wrote:

Dude's probably waxing his Lambo right now

More like the dolphin. To my eyes, Sexton isn't up for the challenge with Jett, at least right now.  Seems like a head case that makes...

More like the dolphin.

To my eyes, Sexton isn't up for the challenge with Jett, at least right now.  Seems like a head case that makes a lot of unforced errors, which we have clearly seen the last couple of years.  He surely doesn't have the fortitude that Stanton had being essentially 2nd fiddle to RJ.

 

Did you not watch outdoors last year... 

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6/22/2023 10:23am
dv12.com wrote:
No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the...

No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the manufactures only pay a championship bonus. For factory riders, getting 2nd (or worse. I know, been 2nd a couple times) or getting 6th, has the same value/reward. It's why historically you saw champions, past champions or potential champions just not bother come back from an injury. RC took 04 SX off and went on to go 24-0 outdoors. I'm sure he could've came back for some SX but decided not to. He's not the only one, just the most famous one... 

As far as Sexton goes, it has to be more than a concussion obviously. We hear mono, we hear relationship with Honda, we hear he's going to KTM. Seems like lot of stuff going on for him after an unexpected and dreamy SX season ending...

Will we see him work some kind of a release with Honda (after the Honda SX bonus clears haha) and show on a different bike in September in North Carolina? With the amount of money at stakes for 3 races, I'm sure everyone eligible will show up for them/it (races/bag)... 

No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why you were 2nd?  I mean do you really want Sexton on your team if he is sitting it out because he can't win the championship? 

On another note, why did you let Larocco push you around and never gave it back to him? 

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6/22/2023 10:25am
disbanded wrote:

Dude's probably waxing his Lambo right now

More like the dolphin. To my eyes, Sexton isn't up for the challenge with Jett, at least right now.  Seems like a head case that makes...

More like the dolphin.

To my eyes, Sexton isn't up for the challenge with Jett, at least right now.  Seems like a head case that makes a lot of unforced errors, which we have clearly seen the last couple of years.  He surely doesn't have the fortitude that Stanton had being essentially 2nd fiddle to RJ.

 

Did you not watch outdoors last year... 

Sure did and I watched Sexton make stupid mistake after stupid mistake.  Maybe he thinks about that too much now.

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6/22/2023 10:30am

I would be very, very, very surprised if Honda agreed to release Chase from his contract before the SMX playoffs.

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dv12.com wrote:
No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the...

No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the manufactures only pay a championship bonus. For factory riders, getting 2nd (or worse. I know, been 2nd a couple times) or getting 6th, has the same value/reward. It's why historically you saw champions, past champions or potential champions just not bother come back from an injury. RC took 04 SX off and went on to go 24-0 outdoors. I'm sure he could've came back for some SX but decided not to. He's not the only one, just the most famous one... 

As far as Sexton goes, it has to be more than a concussion obviously. We hear mono, we hear relationship with Honda, we hear he's going to KTM. Seems like lot of stuff going on for him after an unexpected and dreamy SX season ending...

Will we see him work some kind of a release with Honda (after the Honda SX bonus clears haha) and show on a different bike in September in North Carolina? With the amount of money at stakes for 3 races, I'm sure everyone eligible will show up for them/it (races/bag)... 

Good to hear from you.  Get your a$$ back on Pulp soon.  Love hearing your take on stuff.

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dv12.com wrote:
No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the...

No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the manufactures only pay a championship bonus. For factory riders, getting 2nd (or worse. I know, been 2nd a couple times) or getting 6th, has the same value/reward. It's why historically you saw champions, past champions or potential champions just not bother come back from an injury. RC took 04 SX off and went on to go 24-0 outdoors. I'm sure he could've came back for some SX but decided not to. He's not the only one, just the most famous one... 

As far as Sexton goes, it has to be more than a concussion obviously. We hear mono, we hear relationship with Honda, we hear he's going to KTM. Seems like lot of stuff going on for him after an unexpected and dreamy SX season ending...

Will we see him work some kind of a release with Honda (after the Honda SX bonus clears haha) and show on a different bike in September in North Carolina? With the amount of money at stakes for 3 races, I'm sure everyone eligible will show up for them/it (races/bag)... 

No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why...

No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why you were 2nd?  I mean do you really want Sexton on your team if he is sitting it out because he can't win the championship? 

On another note, why did you let Larocco push you around and never gave it back to him? 

This smells like previously banned troll... 

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dv12.com wrote:
No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the...

No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the manufactures only pay a championship bonus. For factory riders, getting 2nd (or worse. I know, been 2nd a couple times) or getting 6th, has the same value/reward. It's why historically you saw champions, past champions or potential champions just not bother come back from an injury. RC took 04 SX off and went on to go 24-0 outdoors. I'm sure he could've came back for some SX but decided not to. He's not the only one, just the most famous one... 

As far as Sexton goes, it has to be more than a concussion obviously. We hear mono, we hear relationship with Honda, we hear he's going to KTM. Seems like lot of stuff going on for him after an unexpected and dreamy SX season ending...

Will we see him work some kind of a release with Honda (after the Honda SX bonus clears haha) and show on a different bike in September in North Carolina? With the amount of money at stakes for 3 races, I'm sure everyone eligible will show up for them/it (races/bag)... 

No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why...

No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why you were 2nd?  I mean do you really want Sexton on your team if he is sitting it out because he can't win the championship? 

On another note, why did you let Larocco push you around and never gave it back to him? 

Ah the ole compliment then criiticize  routine.. rarely works. 

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6/22/2023 11:00am

If he does in fact have mono, at his age, will be lucky for him to make the SMX races. Mono in your 20s is no joke.

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6/22/2023 11:31am
dv12.com wrote:
No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the...

No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the manufactures only pay a championship bonus. For factory riders, getting 2nd (or worse. I know, been 2nd a couple times) or getting 6th, has the same value/reward. It's why historically you saw champions, past champions or potential champions just not bother come back from an injury. RC took 04 SX off and went on to go 24-0 outdoors. I'm sure he could've came back for some SX but decided not to. He's not the only one, just the most famous one... 

As far as Sexton goes, it has to be more than a concussion obviously. We hear mono, we hear relationship with Honda, we hear he's going to KTM. Seems like lot of stuff going on for him after an unexpected and dreamy SX season ending...

Will we see him work some kind of a release with Honda (after the Honda SX bonus clears haha) and show on a different bike in September in North Carolina? With the amount of money at stakes for 3 races, I'm sure everyone eligible will show up for them/it (races/bag)... 

No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why...

No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why you were 2nd?  I mean do you really want Sexton on your team if he is sitting it out because he can't win the championship? 

On another note, why did you let Larocco push you around and never gave it back to him? 

BobbyMyers wrote:

Ah the ole compliment then criiticize  routine.. rarely works. 

No, just a legitimate question.  I wanted to see DV win and always wondered why he wouldn't push back against Larocco. 

This is a forum where people give opinions and ask questions and hopefully answers.

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No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why...

No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why you were 2nd?  I mean do you really want Sexton on your team if he is sitting it out because he can't win the championship? 

On another note, why did you let Larocco push you around and never gave it back to him? 

BobbyMyers wrote:

Ah the ole compliment then criiticize  routine.. rarely works. 

No, just a legitimate question.  I wanted to see DV win and always wondered why he wouldn't push back against Larocco.  This is a forum where...

No, just a legitimate question.  I wanted to see DV win and always wondered why he wouldn't push back against Larocco. 

This is a forum where people give opinions and ask questions and hopefully answers.

That was not a legitimate question. That was a stab at DV. Read what you wrote... 

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BobbyMyers wrote:

Ah the ole compliment then criiticize  routine.. rarely works. 

No, just a legitimate question.  I wanted to see DV win and always wondered why he wouldn't push back against Larocco.  This is a forum where...

No, just a legitimate question.  I wanted to see DV win and always wondered why he wouldn't push back against Larocco. 

This is a forum where people give opinions and ask questions and hopefully answers.

That was not a legitimate question. That was a stab at DV. Read what you wrote... 

No disrespect but......and then it's all disrespect...

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I'm not sure why there is a lot of talk saying there's no reason to come back for MX. There is seeding for SMX races. With only 3 races in that series it seems really important to seed high and start out with more points as there isn't a lot of time to make up points. The payout could be massive if you win that series for only 3 races. 

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6/22/2023 12:00pm Edited Date/Time 6/22/2023 12:05pm

Well this thread took a shit early 🤦

Comments like that are why so few people who genuinely know the score first hand show up here anymore. Grateful some still do.

Anyway, Stremme12, I was also hoping that would be enough / not wanting to go into SMX whilst light on recent gete drops, but I guess that may have just been wishful thinking on our part.

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No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why...

No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why you were 2nd?  I mean do you really want Sexton on your team if he is sitting it out because he can't win the championship? 

On another note, why did you let Larocco push you around and never gave it back to him? 

BobbyMyers wrote:

Ah the ole compliment then criiticize  routine.. rarely works. 

No, just a legitimate question.  I wanted to see DV win and always wondered why he wouldn't push back against Larocco.  This is a forum where...

No, just a legitimate question.  I wanted to see DV win and always wondered why he wouldn't push back against Larocco. 

This is a forum where people give opinions and ask questions and hopefully answers.

Because Iron Mike would have kicked his ass. DV isn't stupid. 

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__bgreene wrote:
I have a theory that there was a gentleman's agreement between him and HRC to let him walk early. He is definitely shaking that orange bike...

I have a theory that there was a gentleman's agreement between him and HRC to let him walk early.

He is definitely shaking that orange bike down as we speak.

so you think Honda knows he is healthy and paying him not to race so he can test a new bike?  Would disagree with that. 

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6/22/2023 12:16pm Edited Date/Time 6/22/2023 12:36pm
__bgreene wrote:
I have a theory that there was a gentleman's agreement between him and HRC to let him walk early. He is definitely shaking that orange bike...

I have a theory that there was a gentleman's agreement between him and HRC to let him walk early.

He is definitely shaking that orange bike down as we speak.

so you think Honda knows he is healthy and paying him not to race so he can test a new bike?  Would disagree with that. 

X2, if he wants out. He can buy out the contract,  paid to race sx, mx. If healthy. Honor the contract.

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6/22/2023 12:20pm

You guys are ridiculous.  Vuillemen is a grown man and can choose to answer or not, he doesn't need you guys to protect him from a legitimate question.  He also doesn't owe me an answer, but clearly is one of the pro's on here who does post and also has success as a coach.  So as someone who is interested in the mental aspect of not only moto, but success in general, I am interested to know what was going on in his mind. 

He was faster than Larocco, but consistently got out of his way.  Why did he do that?  His previous answer in this thread would indicate to me that he didn't have the heart of Larocco and that the pay check was more important.  Of course Larocco was known for having heart, maybe more so than talent.  Vuillemen also seems to think that this is the primary motivation for most racers today.   Is that simply my perception of him, could be. 

He is probably correct about people out there racing today, but in my opinion, the people who become champions want to be out there competing, not only in moto but  in life.  There are some people who will just never say die.  I can think of a few off hand, Hannah, Stanton, RC, Hughes, Hampshire.  Some of those guys are champions, some of them got 2nd a lot.   

Which of those types is Sexton?  He certainly could be unable to race, but maybe in his head he is defeated and fighting those demons and that's why he isn't out there.  Losing to Tomac after putting all you had in it, and making the mental mistakes that played a big part in losing and then getting smoked by Jett in MxDN, is mentally pretty heavy.  Only he and his circle know what is going on, but it certainly isn't a lack of talent or equipment holding him back. 

 

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You guys are ridiculous.  Vuillemen is a grown man and can choose to answer or not, he doesn't need you guys to protect him from a...

You guys are ridiculous.  Vuillemen is a grown man and can choose to answer or not, he doesn't need you guys to protect him from a legitimate question.  He also doesn't owe me an answer, but clearly is one of the pro's on here who does post and also has success as a coach.  So as someone who is interested in the mental aspect of not only moto, but success in general, I am interested to know what was going on in his mind. 

He was faster than Larocco, but consistently got out of his way.  Why did he do that?  His previous answer in this thread would indicate to me that he didn't have the heart of Larocco and that the pay check was more important.  Of course Larocco was known for having heart, maybe more so than talent.  Vuillemen also seems to think that this is the primary motivation for most racers today.   Is that simply my perception of him, could be. 

He is probably correct about people out there racing today, but in my opinion, the people who become champions want to be out there competing, not only in moto but  in life.  There are some people who will just never say die.  I can think of a few off hand, Hannah, Stanton, RC, Hughes, Hampshire.  Some of those guys are champions, some of them got 2nd a lot.   

Which of those types is Sexton?  He certainly could be unable to race, but maybe in his head he is defeated and fighting those demons and that's why he isn't out there.  Losing to Tomac after putting all you had in it, and making the mental mistakes that played a big part in losing and then getting smoked by Jett in MxDN, is mentally pretty heavy.  Only he and his circle know what is going on, but it certainly isn't a lack of talent or equipment holding him back. 

 

Sorry bro, but most here would agree, you are the ridiculous one. You don't even comprehend that the Larocco comment isn't even the issue here lol. 

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6/22/2023 12:29pm
You guys are ridiculous.  Vuillemen is a grown man and can choose to answer or not, he doesn't need you guys to protect him from a...

You guys are ridiculous.  Vuillemen is a grown man and can choose to answer or not, he doesn't need you guys to protect him from a legitimate question.  He also doesn't owe me an answer, but clearly is one of the pro's on here who does post and also has success as a coach.  So as someone who is interested in the mental aspect of not only moto, but success in general, I am interested to know what was going on in his mind. 

He was faster than Larocco, but consistently got out of his way.  Why did he do that?  His previous answer in this thread would indicate to me that he didn't have the heart of Larocco and that the pay check was more important.  Of course Larocco was known for having heart, maybe more so than talent.  Vuillemen also seems to think that this is the primary motivation for most racers today.   Is that simply my perception of him, could be. 

He is probably correct about people out there racing today, but in my opinion, the people who become champions want to be out there competing, not only in moto but  in life.  There are some people who will just never say die.  I can think of a few off hand, Hannah, Stanton, RC, Hughes, Hampshire.  Some of those guys are champions, some of them got 2nd a lot.   

Which of those types is Sexton?  He certainly could be unable to race, but maybe in his head he is defeated and fighting those demons and that's why he isn't out there.  Losing to Tomac after putting all you had in it, and making the mental mistakes that played a big part in losing and then getting smoked by Jett in MxDN, is mentally pretty heavy.  Only he and his circle know what is going on, but it certainly isn't a lack of talent or equipment holding him back. 

 

Sorry bro, but most here would agree, you are the ridiculous one. You don't even comprehend that the Larocco comment isn't even the issue here lol. 

Ok, so what is the issue?

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You guys are ridiculous.  Vuillemen is a grown man and can choose to answer or not, he doesn't need you guys to protect him from a...

You guys are ridiculous.  Vuillemen is a grown man and can choose to answer or not, he doesn't need you guys to protect him from a legitimate question.  He also doesn't owe me an answer, but clearly is one of the pro's on here who does post and also has success as a coach.  So as someone who is interested in the mental aspect of not only moto, but success in general, I am interested to know what was going on in his mind. 

He was faster than Larocco, but consistently got out of his way.  Why did he do that?  His previous answer in this thread would indicate to me that he didn't have the heart of Larocco and that the pay check was more important.  Of course Larocco was known for having heart, maybe more so than talent.  Vuillemen also seems to think that this is the primary motivation for most racers today.   Is that simply my perception of him, could be. 

He is probably correct about people out there racing today, but in my opinion, the people who become champions want to be out there competing, not only in moto but  in life.  There are some people who will just never say die.  I can think of a few off hand, Hannah, Stanton, RC, Hughes, Hampshire.  Some of those guys are champions, some of them got 2nd a lot.   

Which of those types is Sexton?  He certainly could be unable to race, but maybe in his head he is defeated and fighting those demons and that's why he isn't out there.  Losing to Tomac after putting all you had in it, and making the mental mistakes that played a big part in losing and then getting smoked by Jett in MxDN, is mentally pretty heavy.  Only he and his circle know what is going on, but it certainly isn't a lack of talent or equipment holding him back. 

 

Sorry bro, but most here would agree, you are the ridiculous one. You don't even comprehend that the Larocco comment isn't even the issue here lol. 

Ok, so what is the issue?

Dry

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6/22/2023 12:40pm

Sorry bro, but most here would agree, you are the ridiculous one. You don't even comprehend that the Larocco comment isn't even the issue here lol. 

Ok, so what is the issue?

Dry

I am guessing that you are the quitting type.  If you have something meaningful to add about why, or why not Sexton should be out there and what makes a champion vs. 2nd place, please indulge me.

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Ok, so what is the issue?

Dry

I am guessing that you are the quitting type.  If you have something meaningful to add about why, or why not Sexton should be out there...

I am guessing that you are the quitting type.  If you have something meaningful to add about why, or why not Sexton should be out there and what makes a champion vs. 2nd place, please indulge me.

Indulge you? lol. You need a dictionary. 

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