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But when they are your only choices, and they are in reality, what do you do .
The Dems and Establishment Republicans are two cheeks of the same arse ( a great quote i read earlier) , Trump is the only real choice because he will get the nomination.
Its like when you come out of a bar , and two people you hate , are squaring up to someone, you dont help them , do you. you either walk away.. or you stand up to them,
And that is where we are , right now, if we dont remove the cancer of the establishment NOW, its over, and your kids will be coming home aged 12 with homework about fisting, Its already happening here.
Burn it all down. Then work on trying to put proper people in the places they need to be.
Why is it unfortunate the country is getting more liberal? We always have, aside from one major occurrence in recent history, when Reagan pushed the entire country to the right.
The conservative position was to stay loyal to the British in 1776.
The conservative position was to support the institution of slavery, deny black people citizenship, and deny black people the right to vote.
The conservative position was to not regulate trusts and monopolies and allow companies to put whatever they wanted in the things we drank and ate.
The conservative position was to not support women’s suffrage.
The conservative position was to not support the civil rights movement, and to keep in place segregation and Jim Crow laws.
The conservative position is to deny two consenting adult citizens, who are in love, the right to marry each other.
The conservative position is to give tax breaks to the top 1% and corporations, so our income gap can continue getting worse, as it is currently at levels not seen since the 1920s.
The conservative position, based on SCOTUS Justices at least, is that corporations are people and can completely control our politicians.
The conservative position currently is that January 6th was no big deal.
Republicans have decided to completely embrace MAGA far right extremism. They had their chance, twice, to throw Trump under the bus and regain the moderate voters. They decided not to. Now they have to deal with the monster they created, watching everyone he endorses lose, and watch him attack relentlessly their candidate with the best chance to win in DeSantis. Hope it was worth it.
Trump appears unable to come up with any other campaign slogan, so I’ll end by asking this question. What era is he referring to when he says, “Make America Great Again!”?
I'd rather explain fisting to my kids than explain to them why I voted for trump.
Someone has been watching the View lately
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Anyone else notice that the Joe Biden we see now looks completely different than Joe Biden looked before the 2020 campaign? Is he a franchise like Dread Pirate Roberts?
Old Joe:
New Joe:
I'm about to load my bike up and go ride so I'll keep it short and sweet for now.
You list a bunch of examples a few of which I would agree which is why I don't blindly support either party.
In the examples of slavery and such you do understand that was the democratic party??
I broadly say the country is unfortunately turning more liberal/progressive because it's a movement that while you can cherry pick a few positive things about is really all about embracing the cancer that is big government.
That will be the end of our free country.
While Republicans are azzholes the Democrats have turned into bat shitcrazy fascists who hold people down by enabling them to be dependant on the government.
Translation: they oppress in a kind and feel good way by dishing out perpetual hand outs not brief hand ups.
I love the way the cons have no problem voting for a guy who wants to fuck his daughter, has 5 children from 3 different wifes and fuck pornstars on the side while the while the ex hooker 3rd wife is giving birth. The party of morals…
It may have technically been the "Democrat" party that were the slave holders 160 years ago, which party is made up of the great great great grandkids of those slaveholders? Which party likes to fly the confederate flag?
You know it was the Republicans that stopped slavery , Right ?
For me it's the earlobes being completely different.
Uhm, no. Staying loyal to the British was not a "conservative" position. It was more of a "fear of the crown" position.
Jim Crow laws were put in place by Democrats.
Actually, I don't think conservatives were against a "legal union" but marriage was a church thing and I believe you can even go back to a Bill Clinton speech where he says a marriage should be between a man and a woman
Tax breaks aren't a conservative or liberal owned item, ask Hollywood. Why do you think so much production went to Canada. You think Amazon is conservative?
Based on SCOTUS, corporations are entities that pay taxes and are allowed representation. They should be allowed to support potential legislators that are going to make laws that will support and/or tax them.
J6 was a protest that got escalated into a riot. And even being a "riot" there were very few hooligans that created damage in relation to the crowd that was very well behaved and benign. Unlike your side that burns down buildings, and literally causes people to die. So compared to the violent events your side put up, it was pretty vanilla.
You probably also believe that a male that wants to dress feminine and act feminine is a woman. They are not. While most here could give a rats ass how someone else wants to dress, talk, and behave, other than you and your crew, no body wants them in the same restroom with their wife or daughter because while they pretend to be a woman, they are not.
TM
Wasn't it your guy that actually took naked showers with his daughter at an age where it it mentally messed her up for life?
TM
Which party is actually creating a world that has more slavery than any point in history? Yeah, that would be the Dems.
More slavery than any point in history ….
You got anything to back up that statement ? Can you prove that ?
Hope you have fun riding.
I understand it was the Democrats who supported slavery and Jim Crow. They were the more conservative party at the time. After only winning 3 presidential elections from 1856 to 1928, 1 of which was because the way we vote sucks and the progressives split the vote, they realized they needed to change. Harry Truman, a Democrat, desegregated the armed forces. JFK, a Democrat, supported the civil rights movement. LBJ, a Southern Democrat, followed through with JFK’s promises and signed the Civil Rights Act into law, and then went a step further and appointed the first black Supreme Court Justice. The conservatives, and especially the white southerners, felt alienated by the Democratic Party they’d so long supported for generations. Republicans saw the opportunity and implemented the Southern Strategy to scoop up those voters. Goldwater’s campaign was unsuccessful, but he changed the game. Nixon dominated the conservative vote and the south, and it has been that way for Republicans ever since. Those Republicans from the Civil War Era were split into two factions. The moderates and the radicals. Those pesky radical progressives who were hellbent on ending slavery are looked back on in a pretty great light wouldn’t you say? Happens often in history. Which party today sees their supporters fly Confederate Flags and are members of far right groups? Party switch occurred, and this paragraph was a brief description of how and why. Democrats are now the more liberal and progressive party, and Republicans are now the more conservative party. Any example pre FDR when talking about which party did what is irrelevant to today’s politics.
Conservatives, regardless of party, have been using the big government/socialist/communist scare for years. It’s old and lame and it’s completely false. State’s rights and small government has often been a code for oppressing a group of people, whether it be women, black people, immigrants, whatever.
It's conventional wisdom and not startling, there are more people in general. Throughout human existence all races have either been perpetraitors or victims of slavery. That our education system denies or ignores slavery is ongoing, and that it is as universal to all races as other atrocities man commits to other men breeds contempt among the races in this country.
No offense intended, but I don't think you understand the difference between liberal and conservative political ideals.
Here, I'll make it easy for you. Type in
"are there more slaves now than ever?"
into your favorite liberal google and see what comes up.
Don't be surprised when you see
"There are more slaves today than EVER before in the history of the world"
Pit Row
It's Liberal groups that came up with this estimate.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/09/13/1122714064/modern-…
The U.N.'s International Organization for Migration partnered with the International Labor Organization and the Walk Free Foundation, a human rights group, to produce the latest estimates of modern slavery.
That term refers to a spectrum of exploitative practices like forced labor, forced marriage and human trafficking. As of 2021, 50 million people were estimated to endure such conditions. Some form of modern slavery exists in nearly every country in the world, the report found.
Just this week conservative voice steven crowder was whining about the fact that in the state of Texas its legal for his wife to file for a no-fault divorce. Sounds like hes a conservative that wishes he could be a modern day slave owner.
Both parties are dominated by the extreme 10%. Leaving those of us in the remaining 80% asking how the hell we got here.
Up until the early 2000’s there were conservative democrats and liberal republicans. This forced each party to reach an internal consensus before negotiating across the aisle, so the gap between right and left was more narrow. The loss of those voices and an absolute intolerance for dissent resulted in a massive chasm and a virtual stalemate that negatively impacts the majority of Americans.
I'm still waiting for any facet of my life to improve with Biden in office if he is indeed a better president then the last guy .
Isn't it great when you get to use liberal talking points when you're talking to a liberal?
What are they going to say? Stop using the information we put out? That information
was put together by liberals? Just got to hold them to their own standards.
I hope you're not holding your breath.
TM
Thanks for posting this-perfect example of false narratives/ due to poor education..
While easy to counter all, let me throw the easiest one out there..
A larger percentage of Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act than Democrats..
Oh look it’s the guy who constantly makes claims that the 2020 election was rigged/fraudulent/stolen, but when asked multiple times to provide evidence of that claim, he’s got nothing, and just says, “Prove to me it was free and fair!” How have you been!?
It was the conservative position. To resist radical and progressive change to move the country in a different direction. That’s been a conservative trait forever.
Already covered Jim Crow and how the party switch occurred. Scroll back and see.
Yes the Democratic Party as recently as Bill Clinton opposed it. They changed as public opinion changed, as they should. That’s why I said “is” and not “was”. I clearly am referring to now.
Okay let me ask you this. Which party is more likely to give huge tax cuts to the top 1% and corporations and support trickle down economics? Aka Reaganomics?
Okay? That’s my point. Thanks for proving it. You clearly are a conservative so you agreed with that SCOTUS decision. That corporations are people and can control our politicians.
It’s hilarious you even try to say J6 was mostly peaceful and many of the stuff in summer of 2020 wasn’t. They either both were violent or both were mostly peaceful with a small percentage turning violent. Take your pick. Truth be told though, most of the protests were peaceful. A few of them did turn violent though. We only have 1 J6, and it turned violent. So they’re batting 1.000 while the BLM protestors are not. But the reasonings are far from the same. One group was rising up from their perceived oppression for years. The other was following the orders of the POTUS to prevent a peaceful transition of power, based on completely false claims of fraud, of which there still has been 0 evidence to show for.
It is true that a larger percentage of Republicans voted for it. It was really a north/south or Union/Confederacy split. 0 Republicans in the south/former Confederacy states voted for it, while few Democrats did. It was spearheaded by JFK and then LBJ, both Democrats. So that’s what will stick in people’s minds. Strom Thurmond, the biggest opposer to civil rights bills, switched to the Republican Party and supported the Goldwater campaign. Nixon’s re-election in 72, and every election since, has largely been dominated by Republicans in the south, and in conservative areas of the Midwest and north.
Please don’t throw out the poor education card. It’s lame and I would not attack you in that way. Attack the idea, not the person. You did say there’s a lot I said that’s easily disputed though. Let’s hear it.
Oh please teach me. I would love to pick your mind and learn from you and your expertise.
One of my favorite recent examples from Trumps tax reform- only Liberals could convince folks that doubling the standard deduction, doubling the child tax credit and lower the tax rates for all brackets is somehow bad for lower and middle class folks..
Not to mention a limit on SALT deductions (keep in mind the SALT deduction was a tax subsidy for Democrat high tax states).
Lastly, the “transitionary” inflation the Biden admin waited too long to act on- It is a regressive tax- meaning it effects lower and middle class the most..
You misunderstood me, no offense intended. I am certain you and I are two that could share beers. But please, current liberals/ conservatives are much closer to idealogy than ever before. Historically they were very much opposed. But currently the growth of government powers and the infringement on individual freedoms and liberties truly make them idealistic allies. By definition conservatives want less government control, liberals want an activist "progressive" government. But neither wants infringements on individual freedoms at all by definition. But both legislatures representing both insist on limiting individual freedoms as of now through various means. What I mean is everyone is against overbearing government control. And both, liberals and conservatives, are all about crushing civil liberties as of now. The founding fathers are rolling in their graves.
He obviously didn’t smoke dope cause willie is 90 today and sharp as a tack
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