Rattray Farm In The News Again...

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4/1/2023 7:54am

It’s all the Northerner”s fault…. 

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4/3/2023 11:32am Edited Date/Time 4/3/2023 11:32am
sandman768 wrote:

It’s all the Northerner”s fault…. 

Laughing I dunno sandman, South Africa isn't that far north Whistling

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4/3/2023 2:29pm Edited Date/Time 4/3/2023 2:34pm
Sucks as a fan of the sport, and for Tyla having sunk so much $$ into the property and track facilities.  Living in CA as an...

Sucks as a fan of the sport, and for Tyla having sunk so much $$ into the property and track facilities.  Living in CA as an adult, I'm really sensitive to the pressures we face closing off access to riding.

That said, if folks actually read both the special use revocation letter, and the original letter approving the special use here, it may debunk the crazy neighbors or conspiracy theories.  Huge difference between requesting a minor special use permit for personal use at your residence, and a major special use request.   Let alone building a track so close to the property line and preexisting neighbor's home.   Either poor legal advice, or poor judgement.  

Having been blessed to ride on family's farm growing up, we never would have considered, or been allowed to ride or burn in a track so close to a neighbor, at least not on a regular basis without their expressed approval.  That was just common sense and being a good neighbor for generations.    Our rights usually end when they infringe upon others.  

Hope the best for him.  

We've got a couple private tracks here. One is in a triangle with a railroad track, a major highway, and an industrial area (lumber mill and asphalt grinder mill) as borders. NO ONE complains about dust or noise. No one ever will. It's a perfect location. I wish I had access to the 30 acres that's still being farmed. I could make a world-class track with this dirt. 

The other is on 40 acres up in the hills. That one I do worry about the neighbors - mainly due to the noise of 4 strokes. The owner doesn't let too many ride that one too often, or at the same time, but I bet it's just a matter of time.

Many public tracks here (Mountain View and Washougal in particular) are under pressure from the county, developers, and neighbors. I'll be surprised if both are still running in 10 years given all the CA left-wingers that have moved here and the value of the land. NIMBY even tho they just bought the damn yard. I bet the HUffman's could sell Washougal for a FORTUNE for a golf course or housing but so far they are holding tight.

It's happening everywhere. There are too many vermin, oops I mean people, on this little dirt ball. Shit I sound like a grumpy old man. Shoe fits, but I worry that my boy won't have a place to teach his son to ride when that time comes. Red Barchetta maybe.

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4/4/2023 1:06am

Has Ratray made it more difficult for the other track owners in the area?

I can see more hoops to jump through now because of his stupidity.

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Sucks as a fan of the sport, and for Tyla having sunk so much $$ into the property and track facilities.  Living in CA as an...

Sucks as a fan of the sport, and for Tyla having sunk so much $$ into the property and track facilities.  Living in CA as an adult, I'm really sensitive to the pressures we face closing off access to riding.

That said, if folks actually read both the special use revocation letter, and the original letter approving the special use here, it may debunk the crazy neighbors or conspiracy theories.  Huge difference between requesting a minor special use permit for personal use at your residence, and a major special use request.   Let alone building a track so close to the property line and preexisting neighbor's home.   Either poor legal advice, or poor judgement.  

Having been blessed to ride on family's farm growing up, we never would have considered, or been allowed to ride or burn in a track so close to a neighbor, at least not on a regular basis without their expressed approval.  That was just common sense and being a good neighbor for generations.    Our rights usually end when they infringe upon others.  

Hope the best for him.  

We've got a couple private tracks here. One is in a triangle with a railroad track, a major highway, and an industrial area (lumber mill and...

We've got a couple private tracks here. One is in a triangle with a railroad track, a major highway, and an industrial area (lumber mill and asphalt grinder mill) as borders. NO ONE complains about dust or noise. No one ever will. It's a perfect location. I wish I had access to the 30 acres that's still being farmed. I could make a world-class track with this dirt. 

The other is on 40 acres up in the hills. That one I do worry about the neighbors - mainly due to the noise of 4 strokes. The owner doesn't let too many ride that one too often, or at the same time, but I bet it's just a matter of time.

Many public tracks here (Mountain View and Washougal in particular) are under pressure from the county, developers, and neighbors. I'll be surprised if both are still running in 10 years given all the CA left-wingers that have moved here and the value of the land. NIMBY even tho they just bought the damn yard. I bet the HUffman's could sell Washougal for a FORTUNE for a golf course or housing but so far they are holding tight.

It's happening everywhere. There are too many vermin, oops I mean people, on this little dirt ball. Shit I sound like a grumpy old man. Shoe fits, but I worry that my boy won't have a place to teach his son to ride when that time comes. Red Barchetta maybe.

Is that a nod to the RUSH song? If so, well played. 👌

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4/4/2023 7:21am
smagical wrote:

Is that a nod to the RUSH song? If so, well played. 👌

It is. Being a bass player, they are my all-time favorite band. 
i have a couple classic Yamaha RDs including a mint Daytona Special. One day I might be that white-haired Uncle on his country farm helping my progeny gain momentary freedom. Wink it looks scarily possible doesn’t it?

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4/4/2023 2:09pm Edited Date/Time 4/4/2023 2:09pm
Zoom wrote:

I'm sure some of the Stark conspiracy theorist think the guy in the Turtle Neck is behind this...

https://www.villages-news.com/2023/03/29/sumter-county-takes-emergency-action-to-try-to-halt-noisy-motor-cross-track-racing/

Even IF they were all electric bikes, they'd still bitch about the dust. 

Zoom wrote:
At least dust can be controlled...

Sound 'can' be controlled as well.

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4/5/2023 7:20am
smagical wrote:

Is that a nod to the RUSH song? If so, well played. 👌

It is. Being a bass player, they are my all-time favorite band.  i have a couple classic Yamaha RDs including a mint Daytona Special. One day...

It is. Being a bass player, they are my all-time favorite band. 
i have a couple classic Yamaha RDs including a mint Daytona Special. One day I might be that white-haired Uncle on his country farm helping my progeny gain momentary freedom. Wink it looks scarily possible doesn’t it?

Most definitely seems more possible every year. It’s almost as if Neil Peart was a genius or something.  Haha 

 

That bike in mint condition condition ripping the country house roads would march Neil’s vision pretty spot on I feel once the motor law sets in.  
 

sorry for hijacking this thread and making it about the band Rush everyone, but they are one of the greatest bands ever and their drummer/lyricist rode motorcycles as much as possible… so… “moto related” haha 

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4/5/2023 11:14am

Give me the guitar player’s real last name and you can be his guitar tech at the next show

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4/5/2023 11:34am
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For those wondering.  

For those wondering.

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This is just insane lol. Reminds me of Jupiter, FL for golfers. 

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4/5/2023 11:45am Edited Date/Time 4/5/2023 11:49am

Give me the guitar player’s real last name and you can be his guitar tech at the next show

 Živojinović of course!!! Lifeson is is stage name.

 

Just looked him up - he's almost 70 now. Wow. Seems like just yesterday I saw them on the Moving Picture tour.

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