Bad chain wear?

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I have a 22’ YZ250F. I am running the chain slack by the book but this chain seems to be wearing really bad. It’s a D.I.D gold race chain. The chain, sprockets, slider and guide all have roughly 15-20 hours on them. I’m also having to tighten the chain damn near every time I ride it. Is there something I’m doing wrong here? Or just a junk chain? I posted some pics so you can see what I’m talking about. Thanks for any input B2CCB01E-AEB2-4E19-A9BD-7CC5AD3CCA6B.jpeg?VersionId= .sgxZ7cm706ioGE.Ou

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 12106BE2-7D5D-49F5-B733-360B1446100F

 

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3/28/2023 6:02pm

Looks pretty good for 15 to 20 hour to me.

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3/28/2023 6:19pm

Looks normal to me. I get about the same amount of time out of full aluminum sprockets so switched to steel ring or full steel sprockets. 

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3/28/2023 6:41pm

Just out of curiosity, what gearing are you running?  The wear looks a bit excessive for 15-20hrs but I’ve also seen a “top shelf” chain and sprocket set get smoked after 2hrs in a mud race. Your chain wear looks like the chain block is worn pretty badly and wearing the link plate faces. The reason I asked about the gearing is that the witness marks on the rear sprocket from the chain alternate between a full worn tooth and the next is a half worn tooth on the sides of the teeth. 

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3/28/2023 6:50pm Edited Date/Time 3/28/2023 6:52pm
DynoDan22 wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what gearing are you running?  The wear looks a bit excessive for 15-20hrs but I’ve also seen a “top shelf” chain and...

Just out of curiosity, what gearing are you running?  The wear looks a bit excessive for 15-20hrs but I’ve also seen a “top shelf” chain and sprocket set get smoked after 2hrs in a mud race. Your chain wear looks like the chain block is worn pretty badly and wearing the link plate faces. The reason I asked about the gearing is that the witness marks on the rear sprocket from the chain alternate between a full worn tooth and the next is a half worn tooth on the sides of the teeth. 

13/51 is the gearing I’m running. My chain guide was a brand new Acerbis when I installed this chain. Also what would cause the witness marks to look like that? Is that an issue? Sorry if that’s a dumb question 

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3/28/2023 6:54pm
AJ565 wrote:

Looks normal to me. I get about the same amount of time out of full aluminum sprockets so switched to steel ring or full steel sprockets. 

I guess I expected too much out of them then. I could get 35-40 hours pretty easily on my kawis 

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3/28/2023 7:03pm

The reason I asked the gearing is it looks like you were running 13/52 because the same links were landing on the same teeth ever three revolutions of the countershaft sprocket 52/13=3. It’s a moot point because you say you’re geared 13/51. I’ve seen chain and sprockets wear more quickly when the ratio is an even number. I can’t speak to the Acerbis chain block durability but it must me pretty worn to wear the link plates that badly. 

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DynoDan22 wrote:
The reason I asked the gearing is it looks like you were running 13/52 because the same links were landing on the same teeth ever three...

The reason I asked the gearing is it looks like you were running 13/52 because the same links were landing on the same teeth ever three revolutions of the countershaft sprocket 52/13=3. It’s a moot point because you say you’re geared 13/51. I’ve seen chain and sprockets wear more quickly when the ratio is an even number. I can’t speak to the Acerbis chain block durability but it must me pretty worn to wear the link plates that badly. 

I will really look the guide over and see if that is what’s causing it. I was just curious if this is normal for that amount of hours or not. I’d love to run it a little bit longer but the wear on the side of the master link is concerning to me. I may just replace the chain and see what happens. The sprockets still have life left in my opinion 

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3/28/2023 7:37pm
AJ565 wrote:

Looks normal to me. I get about the same amount of time out of full aluminum sprockets so switched to steel ring or full steel sprockets. 

jridout12 wrote:

I guess I expected too much out of them then. I could get 35-40 hours pretty easily on my kawis 

This is around 20-25 hours on this twin ring sprocket and chain. I’m on my 3rd set of sprockets and chain on my bike and it has 54 hours on it total. I should note that I normally don’t let it get this bad, but I didn’t pay much attention to the wear and then I kept forgetting to order a new setup. 45530DCD-2C67-4C07-8650-EDECBEC9C81E.jpeg?VersionId=suEjoQtlprAbgzcIBhS9J3GL1

 

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DynoDan22 wrote:
The reason I asked the gearing is it looks like you were running 13/52 because the same links were landing on the same teeth ever three...

The reason I asked the gearing is it looks like you were running 13/52 because the same links were landing on the same teeth ever three revolutions of the countershaft sprocket 52/13=3. It’s a moot point because you say you’re geared 13/51. I’ve seen chain and sprockets wear more quickly when the ratio is an even number. I can’t speak to the Acerbis chain block durability but it must me pretty worn to wear the link plates that badly. 

jridout12 wrote:
I will really look the guide over and see if that is what’s causing it. I was just curious if this is normal for that amount...

I will really look the guide over and see if that is what’s causing it. I was just curious if this is normal for that amount of hours or not. I’d love to run it a little bit longer but the wear on the side of the master link is concerning to me. I may just replace the chain and see what happens. The sprockets still have life left in my opinion 

Are you talking about the chain guide on the bottom of the swing arm or the buffer pad on top of the swing arm? I think the buffer pad being worn out can cause the chain side plates to wear like that. The chain rollers should run on that buffer pad and keep the links from riding on the grooves.

As you can see from the post above with the worn out steel sprocket at 20 hours some people/conditions are just harder on chain/sprockets.

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3/29/2023 10:00am Edited Date/Time 3/29/2023 10:03am

Check that the chain guide is feeding the chain onto the rear sprocket at the correct height. 

Wear looks normal for muddy/wet conditons and 15-20 hrs of use. 

3/31/2023 5:44pm
jridout12 wrote:
I have a 22’ YZ250F. I am running the chain slack by the book but this chain seems to be wearing really bad. It’s a D.I.D...

I have a 22’ YZ250F. I am running the chain slack by the book but this chain seems to be wearing really bad. It’s a D.I.D gold race chain. The chain, sprockets, slider and guide all have roughly 15-20 hours on them. I’m also having to tighten the chain damn near every time I ride it. Is there something I’m doing wrong here? Or just a junk chain? I posted some pics so you can see what I’m talking about. Thanks for any input B2CCB01E-AEB2-4E19-A9BD-7CC5AD3CCA6B.jpeg?VersionId= .sgxZ7cm706ioGE.Ou

 350B152E-A93C-4A02-89EE-E3F2CF61C2F3

 25259B8E-F606-41A7-9293-3E19745D60F0

 12106BE2-7D5D-49F5-B733-360B1446100F

 

How do you clean your chain? It’s so clean for 15-20hrs

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DynoDan22 wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what gearing are you running?  The wear looks a bit excessive for 15-20hrs but I’ve also seen a “top shelf” chain and...

Just out of curiosity, what gearing are you running?  The wear looks a bit excessive for 15-20hrs but I’ve also seen a “top shelf” chain and sprocket set get smoked after 2hrs in a mud race. Your chain wear looks like the chain block is worn pretty badly and wearing the link plate faces. The reason I asked about the gearing is that the witness marks on the rear sprocket from the chain alternate between a full worn tooth and the next is a half worn tooth on the sides of the teeth. 

jridout12 wrote:
13/51 is the gearing I’m running. My chain guide was a brand new Acerbis when I installed this chain. Also what would cause the witness marks...

13/51 is the gearing I’m running. My chain guide was a brand new Acerbis when I installed this chain. Also what would cause the witness marks to look like that? Is that an issue? Sorry if that’s a dumb question 

51?  In your one pic the sprocket appears to have 50 stamped right on it.    That wear on the blue ano would be normal on an even number sprocket.  Half the teeth always land between 2 links and the other half of the teeth always land in the middle of a link.

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jridout12
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jridout12 wrote:
I have a 22’ YZ250F. I am running the chain slack by the book but this chain seems to be wearing really bad. It’s a D.I.D...

I have a 22’ YZ250F. I am running the chain slack by the book but this chain seems to be wearing really bad. It’s a D.I.D gold race chain. The chain, sprockets, slider and guide all have roughly 15-20 hours on them. I’m also having to tighten the chain damn near every time I ride it. Is there something I’m doing wrong here? Or just a junk chain? I posted some pics so you can see what I’m talking about. Thanks for any input B2CCB01E-AEB2-4E19-A9BD-7CC5AD3CCA6B.jpeg?VersionId= .sgxZ7cm706ioGE.Ou

 350B152E-A93C-4A02-89EE-E3F2CF61C2F3

 25259B8E-F606-41A7-9293-3E19745D60F0

 12106BE2-7D5D-49F5-B733-360B1446100F

 

How do you clean your chain? It’s so clean for 15-20hrs

Just the power washer and soap. I always use an air gun to blow the water off and apply maxima mppl after washes 

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DynoDan22 wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what gearing are you running?  The wear looks a bit excessive for 15-20hrs but I’ve also seen a “top shelf” chain and...

Just out of curiosity, what gearing are you running?  The wear looks a bit excessive for 15-20hrs but I’ve also seen a “top shelf” chain and sprocket set get smoked after 2hrs in a mud race. Your chain wear looks like the chain block is worn pretty badly and wearing the link plate faces. The reason I asked about the gearing is that the witness marks on the rear sprocket from the chain alternate between a full worn tooth and the next is a half worn tooth on the sides of the teeth. 

jridout12 wrote:
13/51 is the gearing I’m running. My chain guide was a brand new Acerbis when I installed this chain. Also what would cause the witness marks...

13/51 is the gearing I’m running. My chain guide was a brand new Acerbis when I installed this chain. Also what would cause the witness marks to look like that? Is that an issue? Sorry if that’s a dumb question 

FGR01 wrote:
51?  In your one pic the sprocket appears to have 50 stamped right on it.    That wear on the blue ano would be normal on...

51?  In your one pic the sprocket appears to have 50 stamped right on it.    That wear on the blue ano would be normal on an even number sprocket.  Half the teeth always land between 2 links and the other half of the teeth always land in the middle of a link.

Shit, you’re right. My mistake, It is 13-50. I could’ve sworn I went 51 but now I do remember I just kept it stock which would be 13-50 for this bike. 

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jridout12 wrote:
Shit, you’re right. My mistake, It is 13-50. I could’ve sworn I went 51 but now I do remember I just kept it stock which would...

Shit, you’re right. My mistake, It is 13-50. I could’ve sworn I went 51 but now I do remember I just kept it stock which would be 13-50 for this bike. 

If I understand what he is saying this only happens if both sprockets are even numbered.

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