Illegal immigrants

Im interested to hear peoples thoughts on people that are in the country illegally.

I've just watched an article/reel/story on instagram of a Mexican lady that was a street vendor in nyc and had been arrested 18 times by the NYPD and it was portrayed as although she had been arrested she just kept coming back..just never gave up...no matter what,she just kept on pushing etc.

It culminated in she now has a store in nyc and is able to sell more and bigger variety of what she had previously.

I see this as just blatant disregard/disrespect for American law and I'm just absolutely mind blown that there isn't absolutely anything done about it.

You can label me racist,love the foreigners you work with etc but I'm just perplexed by the fact that we do absolute shit about the amount of people living in our country illegally!?

I read often that 'they do the jobs Americans don't want' which to that i say absolute bullshit also.

It bothers me.Millions of people here that arnt supposed to be.The disrespect to the people that have immigrated here legally is a whole other conversation in itself.

When does this end? How does this end?

Help me understand why this is ok? Perhaps this is irrelevant but what other country on planet earth  has MILLIONS of illegal aliens living in it?

 

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This should go well... 

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Agreed.  What is happening now is completely out of control, we don't have a border right now, period.  The number of traffickers, the amount fentanyl coming in, criminals, etc. its insane.  It sure seems like certain politicians should be more concerned about the safety and welfare of America citizens, but they are clearly not.  So where are their priorities?  And I don't even get the Dems goal on this?  Do they think these immigrants will be voters someday (I am sure that is in the works)?  Its completely unfair for people waiting in line to get in here legally, as well as the average Americans who are being severely impacted by this.  Think of those ranchers, farmers in Texas, the towns near the border completely overrun.  The situation is nuts!  I feel bad for the boots on the ground guys who want to do their job but are completely undermined by ridiculous policies and bad leadership.      

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They caught more known terrorists in the month of Feb 23'......then the entire 4 year span of 2016 - 2020.  That is just one month, not including the ones that got aways. 70,000 deaths a year from fentanyl , caused more death in this country than the Iraq war and Vietnam war combined. 

 

Close your eyes and keep supporting the idiot in charge. He's ruined this country to the point where it will take decades to fix. And were only 1/2 way there. 

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3/23/2023 10:39pm Edited Date/Time 3/23/2023 10:47pm
Chance1216 wrote:

This should go well... 

Right

"Mexican lady that was a street vendor in nyc and had been arrested 18 times by the NYPD and it was portrayed as although she had been arrested she just kept coming back..just never gave up...no matter what,she just kept on pushing etc."

How about America have a Federal body that helps incoming folks from different county's legal and find them jobs?

Oh wait, we have that system in place.

Que the flower girls here

  How ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION is good for America?

All legal Tax paying, not living off one penny of GOV handouts to support the Millions+ (2022 ALONE) Illegals that get handouts, Schooling, Medical, Housing, Food.

But yet our Veterans, Homeless and struggling legal citizens get Minimal help that made AMERICA FREE!!!!!???

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If you go around the country in a trk & get a closer look. It’s mind bending the amount that’s here & what the government gives them for free. Condo, mini van, furniture,tv,s, computers, phones, gas cards,etc .  Big buisness figures they get 35 yrs of cheap laborer out of them. Your tax dollars pay for the free stuff. At a huge manufacturing food co a driver asked me when a few hundred illegals came out & all got in new mini vans. Of what you call that. I said mh,s. He said what is a mh?  Mini human I said haha there real tiny like 5,0.  Hv to watch your back now every second around anything trucking.  They sneak up & stab ya when your fueling.  I,m dealing with labor departments trying to get my tens of thousands of dollars I,m owed. There pushing the fact that I do the the rt to get paid . So I,m contacting transportation secretary,s team of people. And spilling the Beans on how they cheat logs & run 39 hrs straight. Etc idiots think it’s a random inspection. They  get a worse safety rating the brokers that will work with  them gets thinner& thinner. Basically starve them out.  I looked at some paper apps from Africa there a few countries at a 1099 Chicago.   They all live in fl. Now but in there 10 yr history. They lived off the government . Some wrote sit  in house collect money. Haha   they end up flying off a big ne hill. Ps they pay them .26 cpm I get .80 but I hv 20 yrs & a perfect driving record& psp safety rating. 

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3/23/2023 11:41pm

Nobody believes it's practical to send all the illegals back home. If they just passed legislation that said "anyone who ever entered our country illegally can never become a voting citizen" then there is no incentive to pander to a new voting block and actually figure out how to FIX the problem. Until that happens, the problem only gets bigger.

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3/23/2023 11:48pm Edited Date/Time 3/23/2023 11:51pm
Chance1216 wrote:

My cousin is Steven Heiss. The person who murdered him was an illegal alien. Stepping out. 
https://amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2006/nov/14/20061114-114130-8942r/

Damn Dude, I'm sorry to hear that. Hope his Mother/Family gets all of that settlement and more. Shame what our Veterans are going through to come home and get killed by an Illegal asshole that needed to be deported but a Democratic run city accepts them with opens arms

All the best Damien 

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3/24/2023 12:32am

The number of illegals killing or severely injuring them is a scary high #. Cheap labor in America has always been a thing. Trail of tears 50k Indians from the se died or murdered in route to Oklahoma. To open up the land for the cotton trade & bring slaves in. They did get a free house & 4 acres of land ,seed to plant there land, chickens, a guitar & food, cash to go into town on sundays. Also used as labors to build colleges in the se & Ny. Grounds keepers, cooks, janitors at colleges too. 

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3/24/2023 12:45am

The killing & injuring of Americans  is from trucking of course. The transportation secretary is the main  slave master .  They know what’s going on. 3 or more in a truck & 1 has a fake lic & only 1 is paid. The others are slaves.  Once in a while 1 will know a small amount of English. I,ve been told .16 to .26 cpm do the math. It’s no where near min wage. Some are not paid at all. 

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3/24/2023 1:52am

Most on here aren't wise enough to realize that every single thing that is sh!t in their lives is a direct result of illegal immigration. Their low wages, housing situation, everything they have is financed...

Just look at how many on here have bikes strapped to a Civic and live in apartments and finance their recreation.

Why aren't you pulling down at least 100 per hour, if not 200 or 300?

I can compare my kids, and my kids kids(grandkids).

I'm not sure this place could handle some real truths bombs comparing 50 years ago to now and why you're broke and screwed and your future kids are also. ( Same for my grandkids etc unless they do something to get out of poverry) and by that I mean pulling down a good 300 per hour clear, minimum. 

Do the math. It won't pay for what we had 50 years ago.  Not even close.

Calif has 25 million too many people and UT AZ and NV another  15 million too many combined.

Hell, a decent regulat job in 1985(my son) was 35 per hour. That same job today pays minimum due to illegals and gas is not 80 cents. Houses are not 90K. It is now 1.25 million. Trucks arent 25K. They are 95K.  And how many today are buying toys for summer like boats and skis for Cash, and sand rails for winter for cash, and own a new home by 24? Virtually none. Back then, most.

Thia was pretty common for the typical young man in the 80s. 

Not anymore. How is that diversity equity treating you?  

Do you like being broke? Financing everyrhing? Sitting in traffic? No water? Cant wash your bike unless it is the 5th Monday of the 13th month of the year because of drought.  Hello illegals and all their anchor babies.....you pay to support..

And before you say some dumb shit like Kamala about we need illegals to pick crops and all that....not really.

I haven't eaten a single bit of lettuce, vegetables, or fruit in 60 years picked by illegals shittin in the fields spreading salmonella and E Coli.. Yeah, I'm aware illegals work in spots that produce real food. 

 

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3/24/2023 2:14am Edited Date/Time 3/24/2023 2:15am

As someone who's worked in the homebuilding industry, across mainly the southern states, I've never had much of an issue with the actual people who come across the border to work.

(Just a problem with the system that allows it to happen)

Because that's exactly what they do, they work.

(they have though, infiltrated  the lesser skilled trades and have brought the average pay scale down as a result)

As opposed to others who live on generational welfare, and constantly bemoan their status, with the help of politicians and the media. 

 

But we all see the massive change in demographics and increase in those flooding across our southern border. 

It's being done for political reasons. 

And the results are nothing less than tragic. 

From child/human trafficking and it's 21st century slave trade, to the chinese infesting us with the second pandemic, via the mexican drug cartels, of fentanyl. 

To the outright violent criminal thugs entering the country. 

 

The previous administration had acknowledged, and took steps to stem the tide.

The current administration is accelerating the process. 

 

Just one of the many ways he's destroying this nation. 

 

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Round up and deport every single last one of them. 
 

BUILD THE WALL!

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You could just ask them, but I think they are working right now.

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jeffro503 wrote:
They caught more known terrorists in the month of Feb 23'......then the entire 4 year span of 2016 - 2020.  That is just one month, not...

They caught more known terrorists in the month of Feb 23'......then the entire 4 year span of 2016 - 2020.  That is just one month, not including the ones that got aways. 70,000 deaths a year from fentanyl , caused more death in this country than the Iraq war and Vietnam war combined. 

 

Close your eyes and keep supporting the idiot in charge. He's ruined this country to the point where it will take decades to fix. And were only 1/2 way there. 

Doesn’t that mean that Biden is catching them, and Trump did not?

Thank you for your contribution.

 

I agree with your findings.

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We need to change the 14th amendment. If someone is here illegally their children shouldn't be citizens. If we can afford to fly illegals all over the country we can afford to fly them home. 

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jeffro503 wrote:
They caught more known terrorists in the month of Feb 23'......then the entire 4 year span of 2016 - 2020.  That is just one month, not...

They caught more known terrorists in the month of Feb 23'......then the entire 4 year span of 2016 - 2020.  That is just one month, not including the ones that got aways. 70,000 deaths a year from fentanyl , caused more death in this country than the Iraq war and Vietnam war combined. 

 

Close your eyes and keep supporting the idiot in charge. He's ruined this country to the point where it will take decades to fix. And were only 1/2 way there. 

Sounds like Trump wasn’t doing a very good job of catching them then. Glad Biden has done a much better job.

It would be way more alarming to me if Trump was catching people like crazy in his 4 years and then Biden was hardly catching anyone.

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TDeath21 wrote:
Sounds like Trump wasn’t doing a very good job of catching them then. Glad Biden has done a much better job. It would be way more...

Sounds like Trump wasn’t doing a very good job of catching them then. Glad Biden has done a much better job.

It would be way more alarming to me if Trump was catching people like crazy in his 4 years and then Biden was hardly catching anyone.

I think we’ve already seen the weaponization of federal agencies against the then sitting President. C’mon man. 

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jeffro503 wrote:
They caught more known terrorists in the month of Feb 23'......then the entire 4 year span of 2016 - 2020.  That is just one month, not...

They caught more known terrorists in the month of Feb 23'......then the entire 4 year span of 2016 - 2020.  That is just one month, not including the ones that got aways. 70,000 deaths a year from fentanyl , caused more death in this country than the Iraq war and Vietnam war combined. 

 

Close your eyes and keep supporting the idiot in charge. He's ruined this country to the point where it will take decades to fix. And were only 1/2 way there. 

Oh and one more thing. That fentanyl comment is irrelevant to the border or who is President. If you believe the border was more secure under Trump, then it didn’t help the fentanyl deaths at all. Look at this curve and the way it is trending. Joe Biden took over on January 20, 2021.

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3/24/2023 7:43am Edited Date/Time 3/24/2023 7:45am
TDeath21 wrote:
Oh and one more thing. That fentanyl comment is irrelevant to the border or who is President. If you believe the border was more secure under...

Oh and one more thing. That fentanyl comment is irrelevant to the border or who is President. If you believe the border was more secure under Trump, then it didn’t help the fentanyl deaths at all. Look at this curve and the way it is trending. Joe Biden took over on January 20, 2021.

DAF40F7A-33BF-4F7A-A68B-255F353E590D.jpeg?VersionId=Bj0Uyez7b

 

Dates and numbers? A Biden loving groomer if I ever saw one.

 

Edit: Oh I almost forgot to mention that you can't make this shit up.

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3/24/2023 9:58am Edited Date/Time 3/24/2023 10:07am

I keep contemplating selling the house I bought in late 70s and moving to where there is zero poverty, Zero illegal immigration, and zero taxes.

Also, there is zero free shit. Zero free food, zero free medical, dental, vision, and zero housing subsidies. You pay your way or die. Or do without. Or go somewhere else.

Oh yeah, and what you make goes in your pocket. 

America was officially done as a country when they allowed an illegal immigrant to become president.  That would be like Trump becoming president of a country like afghanistan.  It's done. It's over.  Not sure you can ever fix that...although Trump was doing a good job at.

Now america is more screwed with Obummer 3.0 than it was with Obummer 1 and 2.0.

 

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I keep contemplating selling the house I bought in late 70s and moving to where there is zero poverty, Zero illegal immigration, and zero taxes. Also...

I keep contemplating selling the house I bought in late 70s and moving to where there is zero poverty, Zero illegal immigration, and zero taxes.

Also, there is zero free shit. Zero free food, zero free medical, dental, vision, and zero housing subsidies. You pay your way or die. Or do without. Or go somewhere else.

Oh yeah, and what you make goes in your pocket. 

America was officially done as a country when they allowed an illegal immigrant to become president.  That would be like Trump becoming president of a country like afghanistan.  It's done. It's over.  Not sure you can ever fix that...although Trump was doing a good job at.

Now america is more screwed with Obummer 3.0 than it was with Obummer 1 and 2.0.

 

Maybe try the moon? 

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As someone who's worked in the homebuilding industry, across mainly the southern states, I've never had much of an issue with the actual people who come...

As someone who's worked in the homebuilding industry, across mainly the southern states, I've never had much of an issue with the actual people who come across the border to work.

(Just a problem with the system that allows it to happen)

Because that's exactly what they do, they work.

(they have though, infiltrated  the lesser skilled trades and have brought the average pay scale down as a result)

As opposed to others who live on generational welfare, and constantly bemoan their status, with the help of politicians and the media. 

 

But we all see the massive change in demographics and increase in those flooding across our southern border. 

It's being done for political reasons. 

And the results are nothing less than tragic. 

From child/human trafficking and it's 21st century slave trade, to the chinese infesting us with the second pandemic, via the mexican drug cartels, of fentanyl. 

To the outright violent criminal thugs entering the country. 

 

The previous administration had acknowledged, and took steps to stem the tide.

The current administration is accelerating the process. 

 

Just one of the many ways he's destroying this nation. 

 

Once, again, something-else that we are aligned on. 

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I keep contemplating selling the house I bought in late 70s and moving to where there is zero poverty, Zero illegal immigration, and zero taxes. Also...

I keep contemplating selling the house I bought in late 70s and moving to where there is zero poverty, Zero illegal immigration, and zero taxes.

Also, there is zero free shit. Zero free food, zero free medical, dental, vision, and zero housing subsidies. You pay your way or die. Or do without. Or go somewhere else.

Oh yeah, and what you make goes in your pocket. 

America was officially done as a country when they allowed an illegal immigrant to become president.  That would be like Trump becoming president of a country like afghanistan.  It's done. It's over.  Not sure you can ever fix that...although Trump was doing a good job at.

Now america is more screwed with Obummer 3.0 than it was with Obummer 1 and 2.0.

 

 You’re insane

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3/24/2023 10:18am
I keep contemplating selling the house I bought in late 70s and moving to where there is zero poverty, Zero illegal immigration, and zero taxes. Also...

I keep contemplating selling the house I bought in late 70s and moving to where there is zero poverty, Zero illegal immigration, and zero taxes.

Also, there is zero free shit. Zero free food, zero free medical, dental, vision, and zero housing subsidies. You pay your way or die. Or do without. Or go somewhere else.

Oh yeah, and what you make goes in your pocket. 

America was officially done as a country when they allowed an illegal immigrant to become president.  That would be like Trump becoming president of a country like afghanistan.  It's done. It's over.  Not sure you can ever fix that...although Trump was doing a good job at.

Now america is more screwed with Obummer 3.0 than it was with Obummer 1 and 2.0.

 

308 wrote:

Maybe try the moon? 

Look where the people who don'twant or need government handouts  live and play.

 

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I keep contemplating selling the house I bought in late 70s and moving to where there is zero poverty, Zero illegal immigration, and zero taxes. Also...

I keep contemplating selling the house I bought in late 70s and moving to where there is zero poverty, Zero illegal immigration, and zero taxes.

Also, there is zero free shit. Zero free food, zero free medical, dental, vision, and zero housing subsidies. You pay your way or die. Or do without. Or go somewhere else.

Oh yeah, and what you make goes in your pocket. 

America was officially done as a country when they allowed an illegal immigrant to become president.  That would be like Trump becoming president of a country like afghanistan.  It's done. It's over.  Not sure you can ever fix that...although Trump was doing a good job at.

Now america is more screwed with Obummer 3.0 than it was with Obummer 1 and 2.0.

 

jjavaman wrote:

 You’re insane

Oh, you must prefer Socialist Freeloaders?

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3/24/2023 10:21am
I keep contemplating selling the house I bought in late 70s and moving to where there is zero poverty, Zero illegal immigration, and zero taxes. Also...

I keep contemplating selling the house I bought in late 70s and moving to where there is zero poverty, Zero illegal immigration, and zero taxes.

Also, there is zero free shit. Zero free food, zero free medical, dental, vision, and zero housing subsidies. You pay your way or die. Or do without. Or go somewhere else.

Oh yeah, and what you make goes in your pocket. 

America was officially done as a country when they allowed an illegal immigrant to become president.  That would be like Trump becoming president of a country like afghanistan.  It's done. It's over.  Not sure you can ever fix that...although Trump was doing a good job at.

Now america is more screwed with Obummer 3.0 than it was with Obummer 1 and 2.0.

 

jjavaman wrote:

 You’re insane

Really? Obviously you have never done your homework.

Maybe get off here and do some research.

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I keep contemplating selling the house I bought in late 70s and moving to where there is zero poverty, Zero illegal immigration, and zero taxes. Also...

I keep contemplating selling the house I bought in late 70s and moving to where there is zero poverty, Zero illegal immigration, and zero taxes.

Also, there is zero free shit. Zero free food, zero free medical, dental, vision, and zero housing subsidies. You pay your way or die. Or do without. Or go somewhere else.

Oh yeah, and what you make goes in your pocket. 

America was officially done as a country when they allowed an illegal immigrant to become president.  That would be like Trump becoming president of a country like afghanistan.  It's done. It's over.  Not sure you can ever fix that...although Trump was doing a good job at.

Now america is more screwed with Obummer 3.0 than it was with Obummer 1 and 2.0.

 

jjavaman wrote:

 You’re insane

Muttly wrote:

Oh, you must prefer Socialist Freeloaders?

Yes, he does. Goooooooo Bernie! Laughing

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3/24/2023 10:28am

Illegal immigration (sneaking across our boarder) is not fair to people around the world who are not land tied to the USA. Come here legally, follow the process, assimilate to our society, better yourself and society..we welcome these folks with open arms..

Folks from India, Pakistan, Ukraine can’t just walk into the USA, they need to fly here therefore have to follow a process..

Those coming in illegally are selfish criminals who have shown no disregard for our laws..


 

 

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3/24/2023 10:34am Edited Date/Time 3/24/2023 10:34am
TDeath21 wrote:
Sounds like Trump wasn’t doing a very good job of catching them then. Glad Biden has done a much better job. It would be way more...

Sounds like Trump wasn’t doing a very good job of catching them then. Glad Biden has done a much better job.

It would be way more alarming to me if Trump was catching people like crazy in his 4 years and then Biden was hardly catching anyone.

Are you being serious?  Everyone and their brother is trying to get across the border because it is perceived as being wide open.  The fact they have caught some terrorists is certainly good, but with a largely open border they have no idea how many got through...  

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