Does Barcia still not 'deserve' to be out there?

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3/15/2023 6:24am

People in here is like: "Deano is such a cool guy, the sport is better with him" while bringing absolutely nothing to make racing better. Barcia, like him or not, makes it entertaining and he is fun to watch, whenever your favorite rider is near him has you on your feet wondering what is going to happen.

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3/15/2023 10:12am
FerCzD wrote:
People in here is like: "Deano is such a cool guy, the sport is better with him" while bringing absolutely nothing to make racing better. Barcia...

People in here is like: "Deano is such a cool guy, the sport is better with him" while bringing absolutely nothing to make racing better. Barcia, like him or not, makes it entertaining and he is fun to watch, whenever your favorite rider is near him has you on your feet wondering what is going to happen.

It's typical mob mentality.....  be "cool", jump on the trash "insert name here" bandwagon.

People gotta have someone to hate.

 

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3/15/2023 5:21pm Edited Date/Time 3/15/2023 5:28pm

He's cleaning up his act Laughing

 

 

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Gravel wrote:

Well, he does ride like a douche sometimes.. 

Magoofan wrote:

Barcia is aggressive....no doubt.       I have no problem with that.   Contact is good, as long as people aren't trying to injure others.

 

I used to watch the NFL when the intent was to injure your opponent especially the quarterback. Bill Romanoski and Singletary ring a bell? Now the NFL has gotten weak in my opinion.

It's a professional sport for Pete's sake. When I race I don't intend on hurting people but I don't mind taking their wheel out and putting you down if your a threat. If not I'll just pass you clean. It's a Gladiator sport. Let's not get to soft here. You should be able to see it coming most of the times. I see or feel it coming.

Saying that I love watching Barcia, Anderson's passion while riding. Let's not put roll cages on dirtbike's with airbags.

Let them race and retaliate.

Just my 2 cents.

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3/16/2023 10:04am
Gravel wrote:

Well, he does ride like a douche sometimes.. 

Magoofan wrote:

Barcia is aggressive....no doubt.       I have no problem with that.   Contact is good, as long as people aren't trying to injure others.

 

Jaybird67k wrote:
I used to watch the NFL when the intent was to injure your opponent especially the quarterback. Bill Romanoski and Singletary ring a bell? Now the...

I used to watch the NFL when the intent was to injure your opponent especially the quarterback. Bill Romanoski and Singletary ring a bell? Now the NFL has gotten weak in my opinion.

It's a professional sport for Pete's sake. When I race I don't intend on hurting people but I don't mind taking their wheel out and putting you down if your a threat. If not I'll just pass you clean. It's a Gladiator sport. Let's not get to soft here. You should be able to see it coming most of the times. I see or feel it coming.

Saying that I love watching Barcia, Anderson's passion while riding. Let's not put roll cages on dirtbike's with airbags.

Let them race and retaliate.

Just my 2 cents.

The NFL is a complete joke for multiple reasons these days which I won't go into, I stopped watching them years ago..    ...but yeah, its the Nancy Football League now.

Just one more reason I don't care if we "grow" the sport.   Look what big money has done to NFL, NBA, MLB, NASCAR, etc etc etc.

Bar bangin is a good thing.    This isn't kindergarten "hug your classmate" hour.   Money, titles, sponsorships are on the line.

 

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3/16/2023 10:11am Edited Date/Time 3/16/2023 3:43pm

Fast, rides a wide bike, and doesn't give a sh!t what anyone thinks. He also is never hurt and doesn't sit out races. What's not to like? 

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3/16/2023 10:28am
FerCzD wrote:
People in here is like: "Deano is such a cool guy, the sport is better with him" while bringing absolutely nothing to make racing better. Barcia...

People in here is like: "Deano is such a cool guy, the sport is better with him" while bringing absolutely nothing to make racing better. Barcia, like him or not, makes it entertaining and he is fun to watch, whenever your favorite rider is near him has you on your feet wondering what is going to happen.

In my opinion the main issue most have with Barcia is not the aggressive riding but the way he reacts when he is on the receiving end of the same things he dishes out. He’s one of the most aggressive riders on the track but has been known to get real upset when others get aggressive with him.

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3/16/2023 1:01pm
vetmxr wrote:
It was wayyyyyyyyy better in almost every way moto.....you should have seen it.  I sure do feel damn lucky to have  grown up in the time...

It was wayyyyyyyyy better in almost every way moto.....you should have seen it.  I sure do feel damn lucky to have  grown up in the time i did....70's   80's    90's..........  I bet you'd feel that way also.....I'm assuming your a kid  (everyone below 30 is a kid to me)..... or you probably wouldn't think the way you do.....

LungButter wrote:
I’m 38.    Been following the sport heavily since 1997. So I’m not old I guess but I’ve been around awhile.    I can’t imagine that...

I’m 38. 
 

Been following the sport heavily since 1997. So I’m not old I guess but I’ve been around awhile. 
 

I can’t imagine that it was just such a better experience to be a fan in 70s and 80s when CycleNews was your only source of info than it is now. 
 

We also have no shortage of straight up bad asses now.

These dudes now have been living motocross every second of their lives since they were 4 years old, I can’t imagine the dudes in the 70s who rode trails behind the house a few times a week most their lives were superior to the thoroughbreds we have now. 

 Pick any of your hero’s of yesteryear and only a select few are worthy of holding Tomac’s jockstrap.

Downvote away if your over 60.  😘

Gravel wrote:
No downvotes from me.. But.. Imagine a world where you could ride out of your house every day after school, race 5 or 6 times a...

No downvotes from me..

But..

Imagine a world where you could ride out of your house every day after school, race 5 or 6 times a week and herpes / aids hadn’t been invented yet. The local dealership would have a row of 20-30 new 125s along the sidewalk and your blue collar dad could afford to buy you one every year. High schools had motocross teams. Gas was 60 cents a gallon. One year old used bikes were a couple hundred bucks, any after school job could buy a used bike if you were willing to work for it/your parents couldn’t or wouldn’t pay your way.. top end kits for your Elsinore we’re about $25.. 
 

The 70s were a really good time to moto.

Plus we got to race 3 times a week and the gate was full for nearly every class. I must say the amount of info and ability to watch live is way better than back in the day.

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3/16/2023 1:19pm
Gravel wrote:
No downvotes from me.. But.. Imagine a world where you could ride out of your house every day after school, race 5 or 6 times a...

No downvotes from me..

But..

Imagine a world where you could ride out of your house every day after school, race 5 or 6 times a week and herpes / aids hadn’t been invented yet. The local dealership would have a row of 20-30 new 125s along the sidewalk and your blue collar dad could afford to buy you one every year. High schools had motocross teams. Gas was 60 cents a gallon. One year old used bikes were a couple hundred bucks, any after school job could buy a used bike if you were willing to work for it/your parents couldn’t or wouldn’t pay your way.. top end kits for your Elsinore we’re about $25.. 
 

The 70s were a really good time to moto.

You just described my early life with motocross.   Lived in the Santa Monica mountains... technically, we weren't supposed to ride there, but nobody cared.  Police would leave you alone as long as you stayed of the street.   Rode out the driveway and off into the hills, where would the day take you?   Then you could watch the sun go down from the mountain tops and finally ride home in the fading light.   Mom and Dad did not buy my bikes for me...I had to work for my bikes/gear/racing fees/etc...the neighbors paid well for the hard work.  Made a killing back then.      Kolbe Honda (Ventura BLVD) and International Yamaha (shop on Sherman way) had all the bikes and cool shit.  That was late 70's thru mid 80's for me....even after I moved from my parents house I kept my YZ there until 1991 to go for rides after work or weekends.    

Today....you'd get arrested and bike impounded in a heartbeat.  Everything there is either built up or gated off now.   So glad I grew up in the pre-internet/pre cell phone era that I did.   

If you're familiar with the SM mountains, you could pinpoint where this was taken....

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Impromptu tracks along the fire access roads....

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3/16/2023 10:22pm Edited Date/Time 3/16/2023 10:30pm

Magoo, that’s what I’m talking about! Great pictures of a great time!
 

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3/16/2023 10:58pm
vetmxr wrote:
It was wayyyyyyyyy better in almost every way moto.....you should have seen it.  I sure do feel damn lucky to have  grown up in the time...

It was wayyyyyyyyy better in almost every way moto.....you should have seen it.  I sure do feel damn lucky to have  grown up in the time i did....70's   80's    90's..........  I bet you'd feel that way also.....I'm assuming your a kid  (everyone below 30 is a kid to me)..... or you probably wouldn't think the way you do.....

LungButter wrote:
I’m 38.    Been following the sport heavily since 1997. So I’m not old I guess but I’ve been around awhile.    I can’t imagine that...

I’m 38. 
 

Been following the sport heavily since 1997. So I’m not old I guess but I’ve been around awhile. 
 

I can’t imagine that it was just such a better experience to be a fan in 70s and 80s when CycleNews was your only source of info than it is now. 
 

We also have no shortage of straight up bad asses now.

These dudes now have been living motocross every second of their lives since they were 4 years old, I can’t imagine the dudes in the 70s who rode trails behind the house a few times a week most their lives were superior to the thoroughbreds we have now. 

 Pick any of your hero’s of yesteryear and only a select few are worthy of holding Tomac’s jockstrap.

Downvote away if your over 60.  😘

vetmxr wrote:
    I am 55  I'm more of  a doer than a watcher.....I was more talking about real life motocross and not the pro scene.....which by...

 

  I am 55 

I'm more of  a doer than a watcher.....I was more talking about real life motocross and not the pro scene.....which by the way you used to be able to lean over a short fence and get roosted by the pros....so many less rules and whining....

     I've seen fast pro's ride since the 70's......In my mind they are no different than the current crop in badassery. I 

never got tired of watching talent for sure.....whether it was rex staten...Bob Hannah....Ricky Johnson.. Jeff ward....jeremy mcgrath.

Denny Stephenson,  Damon Bradshaw... Ezra Lusk....Tortelli.....Jeff Stanton.....Jeff Emig.....Jeremy Martin, RC  Stewart...Roger Decoster....Greg Albertyn...Josh Grant...Tomac...Barcia....Watching each of them in their prime was a thing of beauty.....Put any one of them in their prime on the same bike and you will have a war....Talent in the 80's was the same as it is today...I believe Ricky Johnson and RC  and Tomac would have kicked the shit out of each other every gate drop......No idea or care  who is better because they were all fucking animals like normals can't even comprehend...The only thing that made me stop riding my own bike was when a guy like Robbie Reynard shows up to shred....He was just to beautiful not to watch ride. 

Just Think about a prime RC or Stewart against a prime tomac. on the same machine.....OH man. Throw in Ricky Johnson (he refused to lose just like RC)....

I believe you were talking about the pro scene (which I agree with you on.)  While moto to me was not the pro's.....it was all the average Joes that i met and battled with on the weekends...I guess you had to be there when in 1984  $10,000 would get you 3 kx 125's and 2 250's ...along with filters, chains , sprockets,  Jets, top end kits, clutches...And that was retail. 500 bikes could show up for a wednesday night local race where you probably had to run qualifiers to get to the night show. In Nebraska. 

     You could get a used late model bike and throw some gear together for $500.  Racing was cheap and fun...That's what i meant by things used to be better.   (As long as you didn't get sick.....) My 1984 kx 125 gave me the exact same chills when i bought it as the 22 250 sxf that I purchased last year.  I believe I paid 1400 dollars for the kx brand new.....and it was the fucking trickest machine I'd ever seen.... The Ktm was like 11 grand or something....Plenty trick also.....Sorry for the long rant..we seem to be on the same page here.  I like that .  

 

You and Spoonguy get “Es” for effort. 

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