How do the pros nose it in on jumps?

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Edited Date/Time 2/17/2023 4:25pm

I've noticed pros/fast locals seem to take off in a bit of a nose dive, it looks awesome. They're not tapping the rear brake in these cases, the bike seems to leave the jump face front wheel down. Anyone care to elaborate on how they're doing this? Are they riding that far over the front? Are they decelerating at the top of the lip?

Plenty of examples in this video... but checkout Jett at 3:17

https://youtu.be/_0nhOswufuE?t=196

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2/17/2023 5:06pm

it’s a reverse seat bounce 😏

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They will also drag the rear brake going up the face to prevent the suspension from unloading and springing them into the air. It’s the only way to stay low over a jump other than scrubbing. 

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2/17/2023 5:56pm
They will also drag the rear brake going up the face to prevent the suspension from unloading and springing them into the air. It’s the only...

They will also drag the rear brake going up the face to prevent the suspension from unloading and springing them into the air. It’s the only way to stay low over a jump other than scrubbing. 

Don’t do this. 

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2/17/2023 5:59pm
They will also drag the rear brake going up the face to prevent the suspension from unloading and springing them into the air. It’s the only...

They will also drag the rear brake going up the face to prevent the suspension from unloading and springing them into the air. It’s the only way to stay low over a jump other than scrubbing. 

That’s literally not true and this is terrible advice 

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2/17/2023 6:22pm Edited Date/Time 2/17/2023 6:23pm
They will also drag the rear brake going up the face to prevent the suspension from unloading and springing them into the air. It’s the only...

They will also drag the rear brake going up the face to prevent the suspension from unloading and springing them into the air. It’s the only way to stay low over a jump other than scrubbing. 

zehn wrote:

That’s literally not true and this is terrible advice 

I have seen RC talk about this.

But believe it was prior to him going 4 stroke.

 

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2/17/2023 6:27pm
zehn wrote:

That’s literally not true and this is terrible advice 

I’m not giving advice. The OP asked how the pros do this. I’m not telling anyone who is an amateur or or even a weekend warrior to do this. 

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WTF_M8 wrote:

I have seen RC talk about this.

But believe it was prior to him going 4 stroke.

 

This was also taught by Gary Semics and Ike DeJager (who trained me).

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I’m not giving advice. The OP asked how the pros do this. I’m not telling anyone who is an amateur or or even a weekend warrior...

I’m not giving advice. The OP asked how the pros do this. I’m not telling anyone who is an amateur or or even a weekend warrior to do this. 

That's not how the pros do it, not in the fourstroke era. They achieve it with engine braking and soaking up the jump on the face

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2/17/2023 7:23pm

Head position

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2/17/2023 7:44pm

I'm from the 2 stroke era so maybe it was different but I just remember letting off the throttle on take-off and leaning forward in the attack position placing my upper body over the handlebars. My Dad used to describe it as "pulling your bike with you". The rear brake tap only happened if you needed to pin it all the way up the launch and needed to bring the front end down a bit or if you really fked up and had an emergency.  4 strokes might be a lot different with engine braking but I have no experience with those. As far as dragging the rear brake up the jump....as a former student of Gary Semics I can't remember that ever being brought up unless again that's a 4 stroke thing but personally I never used my rear brake much other than power sliding a corner or the occasional mid-air correction. 

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2/17/2023 7:50pm
They will also drag the rear brake going up the face to prevent the suspension from unloading and springing them into the air. It’s the only...

They will also drag the rear brake going up the face to prevent the suspension from unloading and springing them into the air. It’s the only way to stay low over a jump other than scrubbing. 

zehn wrote:

That’s literally not true and this is terrible advice 

This was a taught technique for years and years prior to the scrub. 

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2/17/2023 8:13pm

Contact J Hanson. #100 on a white Husky. 

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2/17/2023 11:09pm
They will also drag the rear brake going up the face to prevent the suspension from unloading and springing them into the air. It’s the only...

They will also drag the rear brake going up the face to prevent the suspension from unloading and springing them into the air. It’s the only way to stay low over a jump other than scrubbing. 

Seat bouncing isn't bouncing like a spring. You load the rear suspension so it follows the face of the jump and doesn't compress into it

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2/18/2023 12:52am

It's just confidence, technique, strength.. a lot of people hit jumps stiff, leaning back, iffy throttle control, pros just know how to soak up the jump with their legs and position their body/bike to land in the most efficient way.

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2/18/2023 4:26am

This was also taught by Gary Semics and Ike DeJager (who trained me).

😂yeah…..NO!

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2/18/2023 5:09am

Easy enough to watch a slow-mo video of said maneuver…At 56 I”m happy to just do the jump 👍but I do agree when you get confident on a particular jump, you tend to start getting forward, accelerate harder into the face, letting off throttle, soaking up the jump. If there is a jump I”m stressed about, I ride stiff at first, usually over jumping it until I get the correct speed down. 

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