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Futures running 1:02 lap times, 250's running around 1:00.
Could be closer with a legit race engine who knows. Deegan may be able to crack a top 10 if he races. Would be cool to see but I understand if they don't race him.
I was curious, so I checked it out. I don't think a race engine would close the gap that much.
Edit: Futures only race for 6 minutes +1lap while 250SX race for 10 minutes +1lap.
250SX SIGHT LAP
250SX Average Lap Times Main 1
Hampshire: 58.834
Brown: 58.570
Jett: 58.856
Kitchen: 59.743
Oldenburg: 1:00.173
Robertson: 1:00.331
Vohland: 1:00.303
McAdoo: 1:00.904
Thompson: 1:00.714
Kelley: 1:01.092
450SX SIGHT LAP
450SX MAIN 1
KTM JR SX
TRACK MAINTENANCE
250SX SIGHT LAP
250SX Average Lap Times Main 2
Robertson: 1:00.658
Kitchen: 1:01.042
Nicoletti: 1:01.748
Oldenburg: 1:01.358
Kelley: 1:01.592
Jett: 1:00.821
McAdoo: 1:02.416
Vohland: 1:00.938
Lopes: 1:02.027
Rodriguez: 1:02.863
450SX SIGHT LAP
450 SX MAIN 2
FUTURES SIGHT LAP
Futures Average Lap Times Main Event
Bennick: 1:02.923
Cochran: 1:04.606
Hawkins: 1:05.303
Davies: 1:04.968
Deegan: 1:05.104
Boespflug: 1:04.904
Linville: 1:06.378
Varola: 1:08.311
Spangle: 1:11.277
Cuhna: 1:11.850
250SX SIGHT LAP
250SX Average Lap Times Main 3
Jett:1:00.160
Kitchen: 1:01.348
Robertson: 1:01.826
Vohland: 1:01.977
McAdoo: 1:02.204
Oldenburg: 1:02.495
Kelley: 1:02.821
Brown: 1:03.154
Rodriguez: 1:03.853
Walsh: 1:03.848
450SX MAIN 3
Futures rode the track when it was beat to hell after the second motos right?
And the 250 pros rode Main 3 right after the Futures with no track maintenance.
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Who's saying he's the next RC? the people on instagram?
How does someone elses opinion of him "the next RC" (Retarded take by the way) change anyones opinion on him and going off this thread for the worse?
https://youtu.be/Sm-erot1S68
Dad claims he Was taken out by ktm...
Haiden said similar, then he said did not watch vid ...later on said he was not sure he was taken out....
Least h deegan owns the starts cost him ...
Haiden looked fast, but he definitely needed to collect himself. He made a lot of mistakes trying to catch back up after falling. I think he needed this to happen and he needs to keep doing futures to keep learning. It was probably pretty humbling for him. He works hard and will learn.
I was very impressed with Dax. He showed a lot of poise and maturity on top of his speed. Overall, the futures class was miles better than it was last year talent wise.
To get off the Deegan subject for a minute, check out Whiskey Throttle’s Rider’s Meeting with Emig and Talon Hawkins on YouTube. That kid is absolutely awesome, and I really think/hope he’s going to do big things in the sport.
Is that Randy Hawkin's kid?
Yes
Im not defending the OP, he seems to have a little grudge against Deagan. But he has a point. Ive been riding/racing for 45 years. Follow the sport religiously and was under the impression that Deagan, Rider D and Hymas were the only riders coming up and he was gonna smoke them all.
The media has been so narrow focused, I didnt even know these other riders existed and its obvious they are extremely fast. These kids are being overlooked and probably are not getting the recognition they deserve because all we hear about is the 3 they focus on.
I dont hate on any of them but the Futures sure brought to light that there is a lot more talent that needs recognition
And not just in the USA.
Agree entirely. I've known about Dax for a little bit since he raced the LLAQ this year at my local track, and he's the truth. He's just so damn fast. It was good to see the field for Futures was stacked, rather than the one guy the media was focused on just running away with it all.
Hopefully this shifts things around a bit, and more kids in that field get more of the spotlight that they deserve.
Maybe, but doubtful, this gut check would make the OEMs rethink their current philosophy of throwing buckets of money at one “amateur” and spread the wealth around. Better yet keep all the money out of the amateur ranks and use that money to support privateers running your brand in the pro ranks
I haven’t seen even the biggest fanboy say that anywhere. I have seen a lot of hate. I think it’s rooted in people hating the father and if Haiden succeeds he’s happy and they don’t want to see that. Personally I used to hate him but he’s a different guy now and I have respect for him now. People can hate all they want but they will more likely really be hating if he does well. People need to just stop on both sides. Enjoy having talent on the track.
The funny thing about that is Ryder was riding injured and was having a hard time holding on and the 113 degree heat wasnt helping either .. I guess we will see how things play out when Ryder comes back from his thumb injury .I talked to his practice mechanic . he said his cast is off but still about 3 to 4 weeks from riding .
I don’t care if it’s the messiah himself, if someone acts like a corny tool bag I’m gonna think they’re a corny tool bag.
He’s absolutely a fmx pioneer that deserves all the recognition and respect for that… but he’s still a corny tool bag
But is that a reason to hate on his son? Many on here feel it is....
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No it's not.
Such a mistake...But we'll see. Bennick looked way better along with Beaumer.
We’ll see. When they’re out on the track with an even faster crowd, they often catch on and fit in.
Or push past the limit and auger themselves into the ground.
How is taking gate drops a mistake? He needs to race. It's the only way he's going to figure it out.
Edit: Phil Nicolleti actually had a good take on this on Monday's Pulp show. I recommend the listen. Hell, he might have been the one to convince them!
I agree. Moving up is the best option. Continuing to pound laps in his comfort zone at the GOAT farm won't do much for him.
Jump in at the deep end of the pool and figure things out. Getting gate drops is the only way he'll earn pro racing experience.
The best part is that he'll mature, get stronger, and get better. Nothing to lose.
Well now we get to stop speculating and see how he stacks up. Granted the East already lost a few Riders Shimoda, Hammaker, and Swoll. So he should be in the top 10 at a minimum anything less is disappointment.
He is 17, even if it takes him 4 years to figure it out he will be 21/22. The only way to get faster is to race faster guys. Experience is everything. and now that the point out rule is gone there s no reason not to start earlier.
after last weekend, a top 10, or a 5th in the lcq could be a possibility,
i think the more gate drops with competitors and crowds will be good for him no matter what
You mean we get to see how he performs over a 9 race series as opposed to one 5 lap race that you and others judged him on....
Yup, I admittedly trolled the deegan truthers about the futures, after all a generational talent like people claim he is should of dominated the futures and turned lap times in the top 5 of the 250s.
if he fails to get top 10 on the injury depleted east than the Deegan truthers and really going to melt down. But I think he should put it into the top 10 this weekend.
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