Best career without a title

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After reading about who was the worst factory rider,IThe fact is that most all hot prospects dont usually win titles due to injuries ,Mac daddies, and red heads, who do you think had the best career without a title?Myself ,I would have to go with Doug Dubach.Discuss please....
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but doug is/was the 4 stroke title guy..like 10 of them

i think of kevinW..with just a 125 title only..never got the big guy class
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Nerd 9/19/2009 6:37pm
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No titles anywhere at all? As in, no regional SX titles or anything?

I'd go with probably Andrew Short (so far).
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sorry about off the topic (not MX) but i thnk
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Windham or Short.

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Windham, he's been around forever. Hasn't had too many super bad injuries, sans that one. I figure he's made some killer bank through the years without ending in the #1 spot. I honestly think if he would have given it his all throughout some of those seasons, he might of capitalized on other's misfortune a bit better (Stewart '07 outdoors / Reed '08 indoors).
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Does Ferry have a title?
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Byrner has a pretty nice career without a Numero Uno plate.
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Nerd wrote:
No titles anywhere at all? As in, no regional SX titles or anything?

I'd go with probably Andrew Short (so far).
good choice possibly but he never has really won anything, magoo won the usgp, superbikers and all four mxdn motos in one year. that is more than short has won in 10.
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Wandell 9/19/2009 7:38pm
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Why do most people refuse to recognize regional SX 125/250f titles? It's still a professional championship and in my opinion it should be recognized. A lot of great riders have had great careers with only a regional SX championship to their credit like Kevin Windham, Tim Ferry and Ezra Lusk.
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Never really liked the guy, but Damon Bradshaw had serious talent but a terrible attitude!
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Nerd 9/19/2009 7:41pm
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Shocker wrote:
Does Ferry have a title?
If we're counting 125cc SX titles, Windham, Ferry, Bradshaw, lots of those guys don't count.
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Dubach was Canadian champ.......
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Nerd wrote:
No titles anywhere at all? As in, no regional SX titles or anything?

I'd go with probably Andrew Short (so far).
BobbyM wrote:
good choice possibly but he never has really won anything, magoo won the usgp, superbikers and all four mxdn motos in one year. that is more...
good choice possibly but he never has really won anything, magoo won the usgp, superbikers and all four mxdn motos in one year. that is more than short has won in 10.
Short has won quite a few 125cc Supercross races, and a couple Nationals as well.
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Brock Sellards for sure... Has come sooo close but just can't get it done.
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No major SX or MX
Ryan Hughes, he has some 4 stroke titles
Best current rider without a title talent wise would have to be Mike Alessi

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Doug Dubach is a maniac... did Lusk ever win a titl e? Jimmy Button?

How about Buddy Antunez? Factory Phil?
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I have to agree with sloan .......Larry Ward
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Outsider wrote:
Doug Dubach is a maniac... did Lusk ever win a titl e? Jimmy Button?

How about Buddy Antunez? Factory Phil?
Lusk is the only one on that list of non-title winners with top tier talent. Buddy was the man in AX!!!! Jimmy and Phil were not that good!
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Outsider wrote:
Doug Dubach is a maniac... did Lusk ever win a titl e? Jimmy Button?

How about Buddy Antunez? Factory Phil?
Lusk won a regional SX title.
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Outsider wrote:
Doug Dubach is a maniac... did Lusk ever win a titl e? Jimmy Button?

How about Buddy Antunez? Factory Phil?
Nerd wrote:
Lusk won a regional SX title.
My mistake, I didn't recall him winning a title.... Still a top dog that never got to his potential IMO...
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Outsider wrote:
Doug Dubach is a maniac... did Lusk ever win a titl e? Jimmy Button?

How about Buddy Antunez? Factory Phil?
Bulldog Racing wrote:
Lusk is the only one on that list of non-title winners with top tier talent. Buddy was the man in AX!!!! Jimmy and Phil were not...
Lusk is the only one on that list of non-title winners with top tier talent. Buddy was the man in AX!!!! Jimmy and Phil were not that good!
Jimmy was that good IMO... we all know how that went Sad
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Erik Kehoe had a pretty decent career and I don't think he ever won a championship.
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Sylvain Geboers.
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Mitch Payton or John Finkelday.
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Nerd wrote:
No titles anywhere at all? As in, no regional SX titles or anything?

I'd go with probably Andrew Short (so far).
BobbyM wrote:
good choice possibly but he never has really won anything, magoo won the usgp, superbikers and all four mxdn motos in one year. that is more...
good choice possibly but he never has really won anything, magoo won the usgp, superbikers and all four mxdn motos in one year. that is more than short has won in 10.
Nerd wrote:
Short has won quite a few 125cc Supercross races, and a couple Nationals as well.
that's not much compared to "special" one off balls to the walls one of a kind, unique, extraordinary races like...the superbikers...the USGP, 500cc i might add and the motocross des nations and trophe's des nations (2x2 moto sweep) imho. i could be wrong...in this debate but probably not though.
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Keith Bowen...Not the best career but I think he did win a few outdoor nationals in one of the most competitive eras ever. He certainly had the raw speed and natural ability to run with the DB, RJ, O'mara, Ward, Hannah etc and perhaps win a title during the mid '80's. Unfortunately a few bad lifestyle choices and a lack of training cost him.

Too bad. He was a good guy and pleasure to watch ride a bike. One of Michigan's best ever IMO.

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