New 2023 YZ450F

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1/12/2023 10:56am Edited Date/Time 1/12/2023 10:58am
Jrey2 wrote:
I'm at 2 or 3 out of 4, position 4 being all the way up. I've been meaning to try this out. I'm planning on it...

I'm at 2 or 3 out of 4, position 4 being all the way up. I've been meaning to try this out. I'm planning on it in a few days when I do some bike work actually. I had my bars rolled forwards a little as well which makes room but makes the hand positioning very unnatural and is a net negative.

 

@Sandusky26 If I unlock anymore i'm going to be two pieces. My issue is that I either am wayyyy over the front of the bike with the bars under me, too erect in my positioning, or my weight is too far back to use my legs and it's just "hanging on". Hope that makes sense..

I'm 6'2 and I feel your pain. It took about 40 hours of riding to get my legs strong enough to hold a 450 open and be in the correct position. Just keep practicing and one day it will click and you will understand what the hell Ryno is preaching.

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1/12/2023 11:04am
Jrey2 wrote:
I'm at 2 or 3 out of 4, position 4 being all the way up. I've been meaning to try this out. I'm planning on it...

I'm at 2 or 3 out of 4, position 4 being all the way up. I've been meaning to try this out. I'm planning on it in a few days when I do some bike work actually. I had my bars rolled forwards a little as well which makes room but makes the hand positioning very unnatural and is a net negative.

 

@Sandusky26 If I unlock anymore i'm going to be two pieces. My issue is that I either am wayyyy over the front of the bike with the bars under me, too erect in my positioning, or my weight is too far back to use my legs and it's just "hanging on". Hope that makes sense..

Sandusky26 wrote:
I'm 6'2 and I feel your pain. It took about 40 hours of riding to get my legs strong enough to hold a 450 open and...

I'm 6'2 and I feel your pain. It took about 40 hours of riding to get my legs strong enough to hold a 450 open and be in the correct position. Just keep practicing and one day it will click and you will understand what the hell Ryno is preaching.

I think the Gasgas is really hard to grip also. Like the grip interface is just not as good to me so it feels like theres always lubricant on my knees. I'm squeezing it so hard I'm bruising through TP199's and it's staying sore for a week. Deep bruising.. There are pictues of this in a thread from big rick vankamp

 

My idea is to lower my center of gravity closer to that of the bike, which will decrease the leverage the bike has on me and allow me to spend less energy/force just used to stay on it. Footpegs might give you a half inch, but that may allow your body to move in a way that gives a greater return. More than you asked for, but food for thought since we're in a similar stuation.

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1/12/2023 11:09am
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Can anyone comment how the ergos are compared to a KTM? I switched from YZs to a 350, the KTM definitely needed a few things to...

Can anyone comment how the ergos are compared to a KTM? I switched from YZs to a 350, the KTM definitely needed a few things to fit me better at 6'4" (no bike is gonna fit well stock) 

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Me too (to all of it) and we're the same height. Mind telling me how you've gotten more comfortable? So far I've got a wing seat...

Me too (to all of it) and we're the same height. Mind telling me how you've gotten more comfortable? So far I've got a wing seat and just ordered some fastways from a user on here but that's about it. I feel like I'm standing right in front of the handlebars no matter what.

I did a 30mm guts seat (elected to not get the wing but it does seem good) and switched out the bars before even riding it to the ones Keefer recommended. Pro Taper SX high or something? I may push forward the bar mounts in the top clamp next. The Luxon risers may be another purchase down the road. Or the whole set of clamps with them cuz damn they are cool and may help the fork work even better.

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1/12/2023 11:33am

Just an update for anyone looking plastics, Acerbis says late March hopefully and Cycra said April.

The biggest downside to a new bike is waiting for the accompanying aftermarket parts to arrive....

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1/12/2023 12:32pm

Seems like the front plate doesn’t fit perfectly with xtrigs. Hoping the stadium plates cleans that up when it’s available.

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1/12/2023 1:09pm

Saw three at the track today. Sat on one. As thin as my 23 300 SX and actually not as tall. 

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crmx105 wrote:

Saw three at the track today. Sat on one. As thin as my 23 300 SX and actually not as tall. 

Tall how? Seat height? The YZ should be just a bit taller in that dimension. 

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1/12/2023 1:33pm
crmx105 wrote:

Saw three at the track today. Sat on one. As thin as my 23 300 SX and actually not as tall. 

Chippy wrote:

Tall how? Seat height? The YZ should be just a bit taller in that dimension. 

The Yam seat height is lower than my 300 SX but the owner of the YZ was a lot lighter than me. The Yam was very flat from airbox to seat.

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1/12/2023 1:38pm

Yea I guess seat height is relative, can't just go off the numbers from the spec sheets. gotta consider the height of the pegs and relation to the bars on top of all of that. 

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1/12/2023 1:50pm
Jrey2 wrote:
I'm at 2 or 3 out of 4, position 4 being all the way up. I've been meaning to try this out. I'm planning on it...

I'm at 2 or 3 out of 4, position 4 being all the way up. I've been meaning to try this out. I'm planning on it in a few days when I do some bike work actually. I had my bars rolled forwards a little as well which makes room but makes the hand positioning very unnatural and is a net negative.

 

@Sandusky26 If I unlock anymore i'm going to be two pieces. My issue is that I either am wayyyy over the front of the bike with the bars under me, too erect in my positioning, or my weight is too far back to use my legs and it's just "hanging on". Hope that makes sense..

Sandusky26 wrote:
I'm 6'2 and I feel your pain. It took about 40 hours of riding to get my legs strong enough to hold a 450 open and...

I'm 6'2 and I feel your pain. It took about 40 hours of riding to get my legs strong enough to hold a 450 open and be in the correct position. Just keep practicing and one day it will click and you will understand what the hell Ryno is preaching.

Jrey2 wrote:
I think the Gasgas is really hard to grip also. Like the grip interface is just not as good to me so it feels like theres...

I think the Gasgas is really hard to grip also. Like the grip interface is just not as good to me so it feels like theres always lubricant on my knees. I'm squeezing it so hard I'm bruising through TP199's and it's staying sore for a week. Deep bruising.. There are pictues of this in a thread from big rick vankamp

 

My idea is to lower my center of gravity closer to that of the bike, which will decrease the leverage the bike has on me and allow me to spend less energy/force just used to stay on it. Footpegs might give you a half inch, but that may allow your body to move in a way that gives a greater return. More than you asked for, but food for thought since we're in a similar stuation.

Have you thought of the winged seat cover? I made one for my Suzuki and rode with it for about 60 hours. Once my legs were nice and strong I removed it because I wanted my legs to contact the number plates more.

I also am a big fan of grip tape, I like the locked in feeling it gives me.

I would lower my pegs, but my heels hit the ground sometimes and my pegs are in the upper position on my kawi.

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1/12/2023 2:22pm

741, how about that CRF comparison? I gotta shit or get off the pot on the one I know of.. it's blue and it's here.. 

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741, how about that CRF comparison? I gotta shit or get off the pot on the one I know of.. it's blue and it's here.. 

Yamaha all day. Much more rideable power wise and the chaise is 💯 easier to ride. 

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1/12/2023 5:15pm
crmx105 wrote:

Saw three at the track today. Sat on one. As thin as my 23 300 SX and actually not as tall. 

Chippy wrote:

Tall how? Seat height? The YZ should be just a bit taller in that dimension. 

The 300SX is tall. The Matrix step stand will not get the wheels off the ground.

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 Ohio. Haven't heard of another in Ohio yet. 

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Just curious, and if you don’t mind me asking, how much was OTD for you guys that have gotten one? 

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1/14/2023 10:41am
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Just curious, and if you don’t mind me asking, how much was OTD for you guys that have gotten one? 

MSRP plus tax n title n freight. 

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1/14/2023 11:29am
Meister wrote:
 Ohio. Haven't heard of another in Ohio yet. 

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 Ohio. Haven't heard of another in Ohio yet. 

I’m south of canton and picked mine up a few days ago 

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 Ohio. Haven't heard of another in Ohio yet. 

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 Ohio. Haven't heard of another in Ohio yet. 

Burnett84 wrote:

I’m south of canton and picked mine up a few days ago 

Awesome! Where'd ya get it? This one came in a couple days ago but was just able to get it today. PXL 20230114 173829604.jpg?VersionId=Lavsro6WKiLCQ

 

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I apologize for the paint edit, but to me the only goofy thing is the airbox up front. It is way too bulky and high. I know that it probably can't get any more compact, but I believe this looks 100% better.yzf2023

 

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Meister wrote:
 Ohio. Haven't heard of another in Ohio yet. 

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 Ohio. Haven't heard of another in Ohio yet. 

Burnett84 wrote:

I’m south of canton and picked mine up a few days ago 

Meister wrote:
Awesome! Where'd ya get it? This one came in a couple days ago but was just able to get it today.   

Awesome! Where'd ya get it? This one came in a couple days ago but was just able to get it today. PXL 20230114 173829604.jpg?VersionId=Lavsro6WKiLCQ

 

That’s awesome, congrats!! I made the drive out by Pittsburg to Bentley’s Powersports. It arrived Wednesday and was able to pick it up Thursday evening. Mine is the Monster edition, tbh it didn’t matter to me which one I got. I’ll post pics later if I get a chance. 

1/14/2023 1:36pm Edited Date/Time 1/14/2023 1:39pm

My son broke ours in today.  He LOVED this thing.  I could tell immediately the bike turned better just by watching.  He did a moto on his 22 YZ125 with full suspension and ROCS on it to get warmed up and he said the 450 turns better than the 125.

Turns better, lighter feeling, slimmer, and he loved the power.  Said a little stiff, frame and suspension wise.  He didn't notice any unstableness at high speed.  He complained the 22 CRF450R was twitchy in the front so I was expecting the same feel with the Yamaha but no, at least not on our track.  

  We set up the bike exactly as the manual called for.  7mm at the forks and 98 sag.  I want to him to try Keefers setup next!

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1/14/2023 5:59pm
Meister wrote:
 Ohio. Haven't heard of another in Ohio yet. 

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 Ohio. Haven't heard of another in Ohio yet. 

Burnett84 wrote:

I’m south of canton and picked mine up a few days ago 

Meister wrote:
Awesome! Where'd ya get it? This one came in a couple days ago but was just able to get it today.   

Awesome! Where'd ya get it? This one came in a couple days ago but was just able to get it today. PXL 20230114 173829604.jpg?VersionId=Lavsro6WKiLCQ

 

Can't wait to hear how you feel about it, I'm thinking of switching from Honda myself

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1/14/2023 7:20pm

Db or sgrimm.... Any interest in swapping rear fenders and side number plates? My blue for your black? 

 

Just a thought. Lol

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Meister wrote:

Db or sgrimm.... Any interest in swapping rear fenders and side number plates? My blue for your black? 

 

Just a thought. Lol

I should be getting a monster edition any day now and i would be interested in swapping ALL the black for blue.

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1/14/2023 8:13pm
Meister wrote:

Db or sgrimm.... Any interest in swapping rear fenders and side number plates? My blue for your black? 

 

Just a thought. Lol

crmx105 wrote:

I should be getting a monster edition any day now and i would be interested in swapping ALL the black for blue.

Thanks for the offer, but I'm going for the black in the back and blue up front look. Otherwise, I'll stay all blue. 

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I have had 3 rides on mine. I ride sand tracks and I also have an 18 YZF, this 23 is completely different, a lot more weight on the front, it turns much better but the stability isn’t great compared to my 18. I ended up with 105 sag and I’m still not happy with the balance, 95mm sag is just insane, there is no way I could run that on a fast rough outdoor track, the front blows through the stroke too.

The power off the bottom has been mellowed out a lot compared to the 18-22 era bike.

For the riding I do I need more stability and need the rear to squat and track straight more, I’m thinking a softer shock spring.

If you loved the stability and out of the box ridability  of the 22, there’s a good chance you’ll struggle a bit with this bike, it’s completely different. You won’t get on it and feel balanced instantly, it’s gonna take some fiddling with. Don’t get one thinking it’s going to be an even better version of the 22, it’s a completely different animal.

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I have had 3 rides on mine. I ride sand tracks and I also have an 18 YZF, this 23 is completely different, a lot more...

I have had 3 rides on mine. I ride sand tracks and I also have an 18 YZF, this 23 is completely different, a lot more weight on the front, it turns much better but the stability isn’t great compared to my 18. I ended up with 105 sag and I’m still not happy with the balance, 95mm sag is just insane, there is no way I could run that on a fast rough outdoor track, the front blows through the stroke too.

The power off the bottom has been mellowed out a lot compared to the 18-22 era bike.

For the riding I do I need more stability and need the rear to squat and track straight more, I’m thinking a softer shock spring.

If you loved the stability and out of the box ridability  of the 22, there’s a good chance you’ll struggle a bit with this bike, it’s completely different. You won’t get on it and feel balanced instantly, it’s gonna take some fiddling with. Don’t get one thinking it’s going to be an even better version of the 22, it’s a completely different animal.

You could move forks out to get is better in sand? 

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1/15/2023 3:11am
Meister wrote:

Db or sgrimm.... Any interest in swapping rear fenders and side number plates? My blue for your black? 

 

Just a thought. Lol

If you would have messaged me Friday I may would have.  I have already ordered replacement shrouds so we can do our own graphics and keep these originals fresh, I ordered black so...  Thanks for the offer though.

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I’m just going to keep these plastics. Already scuffed them up too lol. Did you order oem ones sgrimmxdad? I figured they would be on backorder forever. I rode a rough sand track yesterday and had the forks at 5mm, sag at 102. I might run the forks flush like enzo recommends. The bike turns really well and I did have a few front end swaps. I’m also using xtrigs and even in the past I make the steering nut tight but when I ride the front end gets easy to fall side to side. I’m sure everything will break in more too, only rode an hour. I will say I usually only run 3rd gear but this bike you can ride 2nd almost everywhere. It pulls forever, I only used third on long straights. I didn’t ride for 4 months waiting for this bike so I’m going to get back up to speed before I say anything too specific. 277C839A-94FE-4A8A-83DD-963F67F952AB

 

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I have had 3 rides on mine. I ride sand tracks and I also have an 18 YZF, this 23 is completely different, a lot more...

I have had 3 rides on mine. I ride sand tracks and I also have an 18 YZF, this 23 is completely different, a lot more weight on the front, it turns much better but the stability isn’t great compared to my 18. I ended up with 105 sag and I’m still not happy with the balance, 95mm sag is just insane, there is no way I could run that on a fast rough outdoor track, the front blows through the stroke too.

The power off the bottom has been mellowed out a lot compared to the 18-22 era bike.

For the riding I do I need more stability and need the rear to squat and track straight more, I’m thinking a softer shock spring.

If you loved the stability and out of the box ridability  of the 22, there’s a good chance you’ll struggle a bit with this bike, it’s completely different. You won’t get on it and feel balanced instantly, it’s gonna take some fiddling with. Don’t get one thinking it’s going to be an even better version of the 22, it’s a completely different animal.

Have you tried the recommended sag 98mm?  What have you got to lose. 

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