23 yz 450 or 23 kx450sr?

Motofinne
Profile picture for user Motofinne
Posts
11490
Joined
1/4/2014
Location
FI
Motofinne 12/26/2022 1:12am
12/26/2022 1:12am
Motofinne wrote:
Rode the standard KX450 2023 in the fall. I preferred my own 2020 YZ450F, so i would defenitely choose the Yamaha. Riders who prefer a more...

Rode the standard KX450 2023 in the fall. I preferred my own 2020 YZ450F, so i would defenitely choose the Yamaha. Riders who prefer a more tame/"slow"-feeling 450 might however prefer the KX because of the engine charasteristic. 

280driver wrote:
The stock KX may not have the grunt your YZ has, but in no way does feel tame or slow.  It’s got awesome throttle response and...

The stock KX may not have the grunt your YZ has, but in no way does feel tame or slow.  It’s got awesome throttle response and revs great.  The SR builds on that in spades.  The SR will also hold its value given its limited availability.

Compared to the YZ it feels tame, that is my experience. And like i say that is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

As for the resale value, i doubt it will hold that much better value. An all new KX450 is on the way and should be available in the next 12 months and the 2023 SR will be an old platform.

2
Sandusky26
Profile picture for user Sandusky26
Posts
3419
Joined
7/28/2021
Location
Eastern, NC, USA
Sandusky26 12/26/2022 1:13am
12/26/2022 1:13am
Meister wrote:

Let's not forget that you'll battle broken subframes on the green one more than likely at some point..

BAD10 wrote:

Like on the first ride. Muffler Bracket broke right off my friends first ride and destroyed it. 

What kind of exhaust?

fatpurplepanda 12/26/2022 5:56am
12/26/2022 5:56am
Meister wrote:

Let's not forget that you'll battle broken subframes on the green one more than likely at some point..

Only happens with solid mount / FMF and the SR comes with a PC. Won’t be an issue 

1
rocketsocks26 12/26/2022 6:10am
12/26/2022 6:10am
Motofinne wrote:
Rode the standard KX450 2023 in the fall. I preferred my own 2020 YZ450F, so i would defenitely choose the Yamaha. Riders who prefer a more...

Rode the standard KX450 2023 in the fall. I preferred my own 2020 YZ450F, so i would defenitely choose the Yamaha. Riders who prefer a more tame/"slow"-feeling 450 might however prefer the KX because of the engine charasteristic. 

280driver wrote:
The stock KX may not have the grunt your YZ has, but in no way does feel tame or slow.  It’s got awesome throttle response and...

The stock KX may not have the grunt your YZ has, but in no way does feel tame or slow.  It’s got awesome throttle response and revs great.  The SR builds on that in spades.  The SR will also hold its value given its limited availability.

Motofinne wrote:
Compared to the YZ it feels tame, that is my experience. And like i say that is not necessarily a bad thing.   As for the...

Compared to the YZ it feels tame, that is my experience. And like i say that is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

As for the resale value, i doubt it will hold that much better value. An all new KX450 is on the way and should be available in the next 12 months and the 2023 SR will be an old platform.

That’s what I’m worried about. If I buy the 23 n they come out with a new bike in 24 I’m gonna take a major hit. I don’t hold bikes more than a yr. The Kawi sounds like a great all around bike!

1

The Shop

See All »
MxAddic
Profile picture for user MxAddic
Posts
5308
Joined
11/24/2022
Location
USA
MxAddic 12/26/2022 6:50am
12/26/2022 6:50am Edited Date/Time 12/26/2022 6:51am
rocketsocks26 wrote:
That’s what I’m worried about. If I buy the 23 n they come out with a new bike in 24 I’m gonna take a major hit...

That’s what I’m worried about. If I buy the 23 n they come out with a new bike in 24 I’m gonna take a major hit. I don’t hold bikes more than a yr. The Kawi sounds like a great all around bike!

$2K off is there normal incentive. During covid '20's where going for $7K+ tax before the market went shitzoid. When the '19 came out '18's- $6K. Just my luck I bought a week before that dropped,lol.

Zycki11
Profile picture for user Zycki11
Posts
7805
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Edwardsville, IL, USA
Zycki11 12/26/2022 7:24am
12/26/2022 7:24am
Motofinne wrote:
Rode the standard KX450 2023 in the fall. I preferred my own 2020 YZ450F, so i would defenitely choose the Yamaha. Riders who prefer a more...

Rode the standard KX450 2023 in the fall. I preferred my own 2020 YZ450F, so i would defenitely choose the Yamaha. Riders who prefer a more tame/"slow"-feeling 450 might however prefer the KX because of the engine charasteristic. 

280driver wrote:
The stock KX may not have the grunt your YZ has, but in no way does feel tame or slow.  It’s got awesome throttle response and...

The stock KX may not have the grunt your YZ has, but in no way does feel tame or slow.  It’s got awesome throttle response and revs great.  The SR builds on that in spades.  The SR will also hold its value given its limited availability.

Motofinne wrote:
Compared to the YZ it feels tame, that is my experience. And like i say that is not necessarily a bad thing.   As for the...

Compared to the YZ it feels tame, that is my experience. And like i say that is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

As for the resale value, i doubt it will hold that much better value. An all new KX450 is on the way and should be available in the next 12 months and the 2023 SR will be an old platform.

This would be my thoughts. The Yamaha is new, but all development is going into THAT platform. While the KX is great, it will be changed next year and we ALL know how that works out. We see something new and shiny and we want it. Besides, when new Yamahas are at the track and then the new Kawi starts popping up and you are on the older Kawi you start itching for a new steed 

3
mxb2
Profile picture for user mxb2
Posts
22437
Joined
6/15/2010
Location
Bowie, MD, USA
mxb2 12/26/2022 7:33am
12/26/2022 7:33am
Meister wrote:

Let's not forget that you'll battle broken subframes on the green one more than likely at some point..

Thats a non issue now, and fyi the SR also comes with a re enforced exhaust bracket, that being said. 2 great bikes to choose from. Or snag a leftover 2022 yzf or kawy. Save a good bit. Make your own.
4
burn1986
Profile picture for user burn1986
Posts
12246
Joined
4/16/2010
Location
bossier city, LA, USA
burn1986 12/26/2022 9:55am
12/26/2022 9:55am
mxb2 wrote:
Thats a non issue now, and fyi the SR also comes with a re enforced exhaust bracket, that being said. 2 great bikes to choose from...
Thats a non issue now, and fyi the SR also comes with a re enforced exhaust bracket, that being said. 2 great bikes to choose from. Or snag a leftover 2022 yzf or kawy. Save a good bit. Make your own.

Yep, or even a ‘21 left over 

1
917rider
Profile picture for user 917rider
Posts
102
Joined
9/14/2014
Location
Hephzibah, GA, USA
917rider 12/26/2022 5:50pm
12/26/2022 5:50pm
Meister wrote:

Let's not forget that you'll battle broken subframes on the green one more than likely at some point..

The sr has this problem fixed by reinforcing the mounting points , I have a 22 kx450sr 

1
NorCal1975
Profile picture for user NorCal1975
Posts
552
Joined
12/27/2019
Location
Northern California, CA, USA
NorCal1975 12/26/2022 7:34pm
12/26/2022 7:34pm

I have owned numerous Kawis over the years of all size and models.  I used to love Kawi but a couple of years ago I vowed to never buy another one.  They are just very cheaply built in my opinion.  I am pretty careful about maintenance, but everything fell apart faster than on Yamahas or KTMs, not just the little stuff, but engine, head, clutch and transmission parts as well.  You see it in the resale value which historically has been pretty bad, at least where I live.  

I have a friend who is the service manager at a large multi-line shop that has told me for years that Kawis are the most unreliable bikes on the market (and he rides a KX 450).  Anyway, my 2 cents....          

2
1
WarrenMX
Profile picture for user WarrenMX
Posts
794
Joined
3/26/2017
Location
San Clemente, CA, USA
WarrenMX 12/26/2022 8:22pm
12/26/2022 8:22pm
Meister wrote:

Let's not forget that you'll battle broken subframes on the green one more than likely at some point..

The SR comes with the beefed up sub-frame to address is very issue.

Sandusky26
Profile picture for user Sandusky26
Posts
3419
Joined
7/28/2021
Location
Eastern, NC, USA
Sandusky26 12/27/2022 1:10am
12/27/2022 1:10am
NorCal1975 wrote:
I have owned numerous Kawis over the years of all size and models.  I used to love Kawi but a couple of years ago I vowed...

I have owned numerous Kawis over the years of all size and models.  I used to love Kawi but a couple of years ago I vowed to never buy another one.  They are just very cheaply built in my opinion.  I am pretty careful about maintenance, but everything fell apart faster than on Yamahas or KTMs, not just the little stuff, but engine, head, clutch and transmission parts as well.  You see it in the resale value which historically has been pretty bad, at least where I live.  

I have a friend who is the service manager at a large multi-line shop that has told me for years that Kawis are the most unreliable bikes on the market (and he rides a KX 450).  Anyway, my 2 cents....          

It's just the reputation. YZ250F cam chains are more common to fail, but everyone thinks there reliable thanks to the old 5 valve engine.

2
1
MX558
Profile picture for user MX558
Posts
1976
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
USA
MX558 12/29/2022 12:58am
12/29/2022 12:58am
NorCal1975 wrote:
I have owned numerous Kawis over the years of all size and models.  I used to love Kawi but a couple of years ago I vowed...

I have owned numerous Kawis over the years of all size and models.  I used to love Kawi but a couple of years ago I vowed to never buy another one.  They are just very cheaply built in my opinion.  I am pretty careful about maintenance, but everything fell apart faster than on Yamahas or KTMs, not just the little stuff, but engine, head, clutch and transmission parts as well.  You see it in the resale value which historically has been pretty bad, at least where I live.  

I have a friend who is the service manager at a large multi-line shop that has told me for years that Kawis are the most unreliable bikes on the market (and he rides a KX 450).  Anyway, my 2 cents....          

Sandusky26 wrote:

It's just the reputation. YZ250F cam chains are more common to fail, but everyone thinks there reliable thanks to the old 5 valve engine.

Not to mention the 21 yz450 has a weak rod problem . 

5

Pit Row

See All »

Post a reply to: 23 yz 450 or 23 kx450sr?