Solving the energy problem

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plowboy 11/24/2022 7:51am
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Oh ye of limited imagination. Actually the correct answer is no. What makes you think they're random ass? Many of these technologies are held up by...
Oh ye of limited imagination. Actually the correct answer is no. What makes you think they're random ass? Many of these technologies are held up by "greenie" groups which are actually funded by the oil industry to keep our dependence on oil. Do you know that less than 100 years ago Los Angeles had one of the premier public transportation systems? And big oil bought it up just to shut it down to sell more product? There are actually some roads that have the rails still in them from the rail car system.
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Pretty sure the Petro, trucking, construction industries are why our highways are full of trucks and are in need of constant repair....instead of on rail.
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JustMX 11/27/2022 5:22am
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Virginia governor is pushing small reactors in old coalfields.

https://cardinalnews.org/2022/10/03/governor-wants-small-modular-nuclea…

West Virginia has recently repealed a ban on nuclear in their state, so looks like that is where things might be headed.

there is a plant that produces the nuclear fuel for our naval fleet about 10 miles from me in erwin, tn. They have a firing range for their security a couple miles from us and man, they burn some ammo.

I would guess there would be similar steps taken in the rural coal fields. I wonder how they will ever find a bunch of weapons-capable security?

The thing I don't understand is why they don't use small nuclear to also run desalination plant and convert steam used from turbines to produce potable water at the same time.

Run an aqueduct about 10-20 miles inland and run the lights and the sprinklers in cali.
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11/27/2022 10:22am Edited Date/Time 11/27/2022 10:22am
We'll see where these small reactors go, they haven't been proven out in the real world yet but I'm personally supportive of changing laws to support their development.

It's a fact that traditional nuclear is the most expensive form of electricity generation. My problem with nuclear is that it's difficult and dangerous to export to unstable countries and it centralizes power generation even more than it is now.

The benefit of most renewables is that they can safely be employed almost anywhere and they don't require constant fuel.

IMO energy storage is the real problem that needs solving to complement both renewables and traditional generation.
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Moto Nomad 11/27/2022 10:37am
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early wrote:
We'll see where these small reactors go, they haven't been proven out in the real world yet but I'm personally supportive of changing laws to support...
We'll see where these small reactors go, they haven't been proven out in the real world yet but I'm personally supportive of changing laws to support their development.

It's a fact that traditional nuclear is the most expensive form of electricity generation. My problem with nuclear is that it's difficult and dangerous to export to unstable countries and it centralizes power generation even more than it is now.

The benefit of most renewables is that they can safely be employed almost anywhere and they don't require constant fuel.

IMO energy storage is the real problem that needs solving to complement both renewables and traditional generation.
Fifty percent of the storage capacity across the nation was added in the past year, mostly lithium ion. It's on pace for about 10 Gigawatts/year being added to the grid. It's being added in huge amounts.
But there is the explosion issue and the sourcing issue, along with supply chain, which are big factors.
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early 11/27/2022 10:49am
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Moto Nomad wrote:
Fifty percent of the storage capacity across the nation was added in the past year, mostly lithium ion. It's on pace for about 10 Gigawatts/year being...
Fifty percent of the storage capacity across the nation was added in the past year, mostly lithium ion. It's on pace for about 10 Gigawatts/year being added to the grid. It's being added in huge amounts.
But there is the explosion issue and the sourcing issue, along with supply chain, which are big factors.
Lithium based mass storage is a mistake. Size and weight are not as big of concerns when you aren't carrying the battery. There are batteries in development that don't use rare elements as well as mechanical storage methods that don't carry the explosion and supply chain risks.
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lestat 11/27/2022 11:06am
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Moto Nomad wrote:
Fifty percent of the storage capacity across the nation was added in the past year, mostly lithium ion. It's on pace for about 10 Gigawatts/year being...
Fifty percent of the storage capacity across the nation was added in the past year, mostly lithium ion. It's on pace for about 10 Gigawatts/year being added to the grid. It's being added in huge amounts.
But there is the explosion issue and the sourcing issue, along with supply chain, which are big factors.
early wrote:
Lithium based mass storage is a mistake. Size and weight are not as big of concerns when you aren't carrying the battery. There are batteries in...
Lithium based mass storage is a mistake. Size and weight are not as big of concerns when you aren't carrying the battery. There are batteries in development that don't use rare elements as well as mechanical storage methods that don't carry the explosion and supply chain risks.
Hey whoa now … take it easy on my lithium stock …. 😜
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early 11/29/2022 12:24pm
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Interesting ideas here

 

 

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