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Neal Fox has created a course on how to write, record and mix music professionally. It's amazingling complete and told in laymans terms. I was a Beta tester. https://allmusicmatters.thinkific.com/?fbclid=IwAR0H3XTA7eMCQQx-yvSy0dTTNyRORpBrp7ahpt_NUy6J2JzQoKerrMxjjCM
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I'll check it out. There's always something to learn!
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On it Mr G
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11/21/2022 4:58pm
You guys are too kind. I was hoping you would look. By the by, forgive me for not being argumentative and an Ass. This is the non-moto section for Gods sake.
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11/21/2022 5:03pm
By the by, one of the things I learned is the basic set-up on computer as far as quality. It's why my recordings just didn't have the quality I wanted and I mixed like mad trying to get it back.
I have a cousin in NJ that has a pro analog studio in the old RCA bldg. He sends me rough tracks and I have to say, recording on 1" tape really is something. It's such a different animal. But then Quincy Jones would disagree! lol

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11/21/2022 8:46pm Edited Date/Time 11/21/2022 9:03pm
I'll be checking this out.

I had the 1/2" tape studio prosumer in the 80's bought it right when the adat came out and I think the Session 8 came out.

But I went with the analog equipment.

Well about 10 years after that, I started going down the never ending ProTools hardware and software, and never sounded as good as the tape machine and I had DAT also, but it was good for I what needed.

I gave the whole analog studio to my older brother hoping he would do something with it, but he sold it all, bad move on my part, but I learned don't give 60's acid heads cool stuff.

So, my current setup is Protools, Studio One, and UA software and two UA Apollo interfaces with Lighting 3 I like it, but it always seems like there is something missing - I did add a few Warm outboard stuff comp and preamps seems like I'm now getting something better more like the compressed analog tape.

On the guitar side I have maybe 9 high end cop getter tube amps but never use them (but I'm going to make ISO box soon like Tim Pierce uses during his master class stuff) but I've been using the Kemper have a hard time mixing this in, and AxeFX Fm3 works really well but I still want the loud amp overdriven sound with the ribbon mic and 57 will see how that works when I get time to build the ISO cab.

But it the end I need to keep learning more about the whole recording process



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11/21/2022 9:43pm
The Avalon 737. There is no substituteSmile
11/22/2022 10:43am
kawi545 wrote:
The Avalon 737. There is no substituteSmile
Oh I want the Avalon VT-737sp Tube Channel Strip and I have the Avalon V5 Microphone Preamp - Silver

But the good thing about starting the Warm is there are cheap copies seem to be good enough to start on adding analog stuff back into my system - I also have ISA-428 for drums but I'm not recording live drums anymore and use a Roland drum set and Superior 3 drums most of the time.
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I'll be checking this out. I had the 1/2" tape studio prosumer in the 80's bought it right when the adat came out and I think...
I'll be checking this out.

I had the 1/2" tape studio prosumer in the 80's bought it right when the adat came out and I think the Session 8 came out.

But I went with the analog equipment.

Well about 10 years after that, I started going down the never ending ProTools hardware and software, and never sounded as good as the tape machine and I had DAT also, but it was good for I what needed.

I gave the whole analog studio to my older brother hoping he would do something with it, but he sold it all, bad move on my part, but I learned don't give 60's acid heads cool stuff.

So, my current setup is Protools, Studio One, and UA software and two UA Apollo interfaces with Lighting 3 I like it, but it always seems like there is something missing - I did add a few Warm outboard stuff comp and preamps seems like I'm now getting something better more like the compressed analog tape.

On the guitar side I have maybe 9 high end cop getter tube amps but never use them (but I'm going to make ISO box soon like Tim Pierce uses during his master class stuff) but I've been using the Kemper have a hard time mixing this in, and AxeFX Fm3 works really well but I still want the loud amp overdriven sound with the ribbon mic and 57 will see how that works when I get time to build the ISO cab.

But it the end I need to keep learning more about the whole recording process



Your gear is so much better than mine.
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I lost all my amps and half my guitars in storm but to see my neighbors whole studio on the side of the road after being flooded was a shock.
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I'll be checking this out. I had the 1/2" tape studio prosumer in the 80's bought it right when the adat came out and I think...
I'll be checking this out.

I had the 1/2" tape studio prosumer in the 80's bought it right when the adat came out and I think the Session 8 came out.

But I went with the analog equipment.

Well about 10 years after that, I started going down the never ending ProTools hardware and software, and never sounded as good as the tape machine and I had DAT also, but it was good for I what needed.

I gave the whole analog studio to my older brother hoping he would do something with it, but he sold it all, bad move on my part, but I learned don't give 60's acid heads cool stuff.

So, my current setup is Protools, Studio One, and UA software and two UA Apollo interfaces with Lighting 3 I like it, but it always seems like there is something missing - I did add a few Warm outboard stuff comp and preamps seems like I'm now getting something better more like the compressed analog tape.

On the guitar side I have maybe 9 high end cop getter tube amps but never use them (but I'm going to make ISO box soon like Tim Pierce uses during his master class stuff) but I've been using the Kemper have a hard time mixing this in, and AxeFX Fm3 works really well but I still want the loud amp overdriven sound with the ribbon mic and 57 will see how that works when I get time to build the ISO cab.

But it the end I need to keep learning more about the whole recording process



Had the Teac 3340s in the 70's. Don't know where it is. I also had a Tascam 1/2" 8 track that I never used. The 80-8 I think. Sold it for for dirt cheap back in the 90's. Still have the Spirit Folio mixer. Love to get rid of it. I also have a Nektar Panorama P4 that I would throw in the box.

I don't record that often anymore. I'm using Reaper with an M-Track interface. Probably the last thing I recorded was the demo on my amp build. There is a thread on it here somewhere.

I notice that some songs just mix down and flow while others are a total pain.
11/22/2022 6:29pm Edited Date/Time 11/22/2022 6:33pm
I'll be checking this out. I had the 1/2" tape studio prosumer in the 80's bought it right when the adat came out and I think...
I'll be checking this out.

I had the 1/2" tape studio prosumer in the 80's bought it right when the adat came out and I think the Session 8 came out.

But I went with the analog equipment.

Well about 10 years after that, I started going down the never ending ProTools hardware and software, and never sounded as good as the tape machine and I had DAT also, but it was good for I what needed.

I gave the whole analog studio to my older brother hoping he would do something with it, but he sold it all, bad move on my part, but I learned don't give 60's acid heads cool stuff.

So, my current setup is Protools, Studio One, and UA software and two UA Apollo interfaces with Lighting 3 I like it, but it always seems like there is something missing - I did add a few Warm outboard stuff comp and preamps seems like I'm now getting something better more like the compressed analog tape.

On the guitar side I have maybe 9 high end cop getter tube amps but never use them (but I'm going to make ISO box soon like Tim Pierce uses during his master class stuff) but I've been using the Kemper have a hard time mixing this in, and AxeFX Fm3 works really well but I still want the loud amp overdriven sound with the ribbon mic and 57 will see how that works when I get time to build the ISO cab.

But it the end I need to keep learning more about the whole recording process



borg wrote:
Had the Teac 3340s in the 70's. Don't know where it is. I also had a Tascam 1/2" 8 track that I never used. The 80-8...
Had the Teac 3340s in the 70's. Don't know where it is. I also had a Tascam 1/2" 8 track that I never used. The 80-8 I think. Sold it for for dirt cheap back in the 90's. Still have the Spirit Folio mixer. Love to get rid of it. I also have a Nektar Panorama P4 that I would throw in the box.

I don't record that often anymore. I'm using Reaper with an M-Track interface. Probably the last thing I recorded was the demo on my amp build. There is a thread on it here somewhere.

I notice that some songs just mix down and flow while others are a total pain.
Yeah I loved the amp you built, and that recoding was really good, I quit playing after I heard that.

I don't play much blues stuff, used to that is really what it's about but for playing for so long I have issues with my hands and my left wrist so I try and play a little bit every month for fun, maybe I'm not that old started playing at 6 years old (from my brothers one playing Neil Young and the other 60's and 70's rock bands) and I'm still playing and I'm turning 60 tomorrow.
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Yeah I loved the amp you built, and that recoding was really good, I quit playing after I heard that. I don't play much blues stuff...
Yeah I loved the amp you built, and that recoding was really good, I quit playing after I heard that.

I don't play much blues stuff, used to that is really what it's about but for playing for so long I have issues with my hands and my left wrist so I try and play a little bit every month for fun, maybe I'm not that old started playing at 6 years old (from my brothers one playing Neil Young and the other 60's and 70's rock bands) and I'm still playing and I'm turning 60 tomorrow.
"I quit playing after I heard that."
Yeah right. I think you're softening me up because you want that mixer and midi controller.
11/22/2022 6:55pm Edited Date/Time 11/22/2022 6:57pm
Yeah I loved the amp you built, and that recoding was really good, I quit playing after I heard that. I don't play much blues stuff...
Yeah I loved the amp you built, and that recoding was really good, I quit playing after I heard that.

I don't play much blues stuff, used to that is really what it's about but for playing for so long I have issues with my hands and my left wrist so I try and play a little bit every month for fun, maybe I'm not that old started playing at 6 years old (from my brothers one playing Neil Young and the other 60's and 70's rock bands) and I'm still playing and I'm turning 60 tomorrow.
borg wrote:
"I quit playing after I heard that."
Yeah right. I think you're softening me up because you want that mixer and midi controller.
Thats funny my house is full of music stuff, and I have a bunch of gear I'll send you for a new home.

That was the reason I got rid of the tape and mixer and also got rid of the last acoustic drum set that I had they take up way too much room.

Nope I really like what you played - I'm stuck in the 80's-90's metal stuff, but I've been doing Tim Pierce master classes and Leon Todd stuff when I have time and learning a whole bunch of new stuff, it's still fun to jam.

12/11/2022 10:34pm

I write a lot of Great songs would b interested in how to get them licensed. Then sell them. I would like to record a few songs. I would prefer the pressure of a high dollar studio. To hear your own song on the radio would b cool. Then higher a singer to tour and promote the music. I would find it boring to sing the same songs even if there mine.  People yelling sing my favorite song. I,d b like fu or they hold there phone up recording. That would suck your supposed to let yourself go threw the music . 

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I write a lot of Great songs would b interested in how to get them licensed. Then sell them. I would like to record a few...

I write a lot of Great songs would b interested in how to get them licensed. Then sell them. I would like to record a few songs. I would prefer the pressure of a high dollar studio. To hear your own song on the radio would b cool. Then higher a singer to tour and promote the music. I would find it boring to sing the same songs even if there mine.  People yelling sing my favorite song. I,d b like fu or they hold there phone up recording. That would suck your supposed to let yourself go threw the music . 

When you say you write songs, are these just lyrics or are they lyrics and melody? Do you record any of it?

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12/12/2022 2:19pm Edited Date/Time 12/12/2022 2:19pm
Mr. G wrote:
By the by, one of the things I learned is the basic set-up on computer as far as quality. It's why my recordings just didn't have...
By the by, one of the things I learned is the basic set-up on computer as far as quality. It's why my recordings just didn't have the quality I wanted and I mixed like mad trying to get it back.
I have a cousin in NJ that has a pro analog studio in the old RCA bldg. He sends me rough tracks and I have to say, recording on 1" tape really is something. It's such a different animal. But then Quincy Jones would disagree! lol

You've likely seen this video, but it's a great back and forth about analog vs. digital with Steve Albini and Ken Andrews: https://www.teachertube.com/videos/analog-vs-digital-151070 

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Mr. G wrote:
By the by, one of the things I learned is the basic set-up on computer as far as quality. It's why my recordings just didn't have...
By the by, one of the things I learned is the basic set-up on computer as far as quality. It's why my recordings just didn't have the quality I wanted and I mixed like mad trying to get it back.
I have a cousin in NJ that has a pro analog studio in the old RCA bldg. He sends me rough tracks and I have to say, recording on 1" tape really is something. It's such a different animal. But then Quincy Jones would disagree! lol
Falcon wrote:
You've likely seen this video, but it's a great back and forth about analog vs. digital with Steve Albini and Ken Andrews: https://www.teachertube.com/videos/analog-vs-digital-151070 

You've likely seen this video, but it's a great back and forth about analog vs. digital with Steve Albini and Ken Andrews: https://www.teachertube.com/videos/analog-vs-digital-151070 

When the analog guy said that splicing tape was just as easy digital editing I quit watching. Pure bullshit.

12/12/2022 7:42pm
I write a lot of Great songs would b interested in how to get them licensed. Then sell them. I would like to record a few...

I write a lot of Great songs would b interested in how to get them licensed. Then sell them. I would like to record a few songs. I would prefer the pressure of a high dollar studio. To hear your own song on the radio would b cool. Then higher a singer to tour and promote the music. I would find it boring to sing the same songs even if there mine.  People yelling sing my favorite song. I,d b like fu or they hold there phone up recording. That would suck your supposed to let yourself go threw the music . 

borg wrote:

When you say you write songs, are these just lyrics or are they lyrics and melody? Do you record any of it?

Just lyrics something to do on the rd. I do a lot of paradies The Cars album candy o I changed all the songs lyrics to Suzuki lyrics. 

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12/13/2022 4:47am Edited Date/Time 12/13/2022 4:48am
Just lyrics something to do on the rd. I do a lot of paradies The Cars album candy o I changed all the songs lyrics to...

Just lyrics something to do on the rd. I do a lot of paradies The Cars album candy o I changed all the songs lyrics to Suzuki lyrics. 

Suzuki lyrics? What do you mean?

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Just lyrics something to do on the rd. I do a lot of paradies The Cars album candy o I changed all the songs lyrics to...

Just lyrics something to do on the rd. I do a lot of paradies The Cars album candy o I changed all the songs lyrics to Suzuki lyrics. 

ATKpilot99 wrote:

Suzuki lyrics? What do you mean?

Yeah. Post em up.

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12/13/2022 8:01am

Candy-O is an all time great that shouldn’t be messed with🤨

 

not to mention some of the best album cover artwork EVER.

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Chatmore wrote:

Candy-O is an all time great that shouldn’t be messed with🤨

 

not to mention some of the best album cover artwork EVER.

Meh , never cared for The Cars . It is a good album cover though

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12/13/2022 8:32am

Wow. Have you listened to their first two albums in their entirety? Not for everyone, but I think their sound and production was way ahead of their time. 

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12/13/2022 8:34am
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Wow. Have you listened to their first two albums in their entirety? Not for everyone, but I think their sound and production was way ahead of...

Wow. Have you listened to their first two albums in their entirety? Not for everyone, but I think their sound and production was way ahead of their time. 

Yeah . Just not into their sound . Been awhile though so maybe I'll revisit it 

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12/13/2022 8:37am Edited Date/Time 12/13/2022 8:38am

I get that. It’s funny though how the older I get the more I find myself listening to things I wouldn’t have given the time of day back in my teens or twenties. Blues are a perfect example. 

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12/13/2022 10:05am
Mr. G wrote:
By the by, one of the things I learned is the basic set-up on computer as far as quality. It's why my recordings just didn't have...
By the by, one of the things I learned is the basic set-up on computer as far as quality. It's why my recordings just didn't have the quality I wanted and I mixed like mad trying to get it back.
I have a cousin in NJ that has a pro analog studio in the old RCA bldg. He sends me rough tracks and I have to say, recording on 1" tape really is something. It's such a different animal. But then Quincy Jones would disagree! lol
Falcon wrote:
You've likely seen this video, but it's a great back and forth about analog vs. digital with Steve Albini and Ken Andrews: https://www.teachertube.com/videos/analog-vs-digital-151070 

You've likely seen this video, but it's a great back and forth about analog vs. digital with Steve Albini and Ken Andrews: https://www.teachertube.com/videos/analog-vs-digital-151070 

borg wrote:

When the analog guy said that splicing tape was just as easy digital editing I quit watching. Pure bullshit.

Yeah, I'm firmly in the digital camp, too. 

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Just lyrics something to do on the rd. I do a lot of paradies The Cars album candy o I changed all the songs lyrics to...

Just lyrics something to do on the rd. I do a lot of paradies The Cars album candy o I changed all the songs lyrics to Suzuki lyrics. 

ATKpilot99 wrote:

Suzuki lyrics? What do you mean?

borg wrote:

Yeah. Post em up.

I have to hold her down, keep tires on the ground...
When she says...
Let's go!

I like the kickstart, baby! 

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12/13/2022 10:17am

Boooooooooo!! 😂 

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12/13/2022 12:02pm
Chatmore wrote:

Boooooooooo!! 😂 

I'm just waiting for Profeshenal125's lyrics! 

It's all I can do
to keep repairing you...

Or something like that. Probably has a few lines about truck stop hookers wanting to ride on the back. 

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12/13/2022 12:13pm

😄😄😄

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