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Williams moto werx. GOOD ONE! But i know what you mean!
Doesn't matter if it's motorcycles or music, you don't seem to care much for change.
Racer92 wrote: Make a dirtbike bike that costs about 4K out the door and they wouldnt be so broke. Those 8 thousand dollar farm tractors are killing sales.
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you said what i was thinking.
they (OEM's) have no one to blame but themselves. it's not about "change" but rather affordablity.
when the economy tanks, the change needs to be consistant with that problem not stick with pricey dirt bikes and increase part prices 50%.
this was coming for a long time, here it is. factories being out of racing and working behind the curtain isn't a bad thing.
no diffetent then this government of change we have right now........ looks like we will be luckey to come away with "change" jingling in your pocket.
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The racing budget for moto and supercross has nothing to do with the profits made off of the dirtbike line. If it did there would be no race teams at all.
Theory was that you spread out those costs over all of your products and product lines (mowers, cars, guitars, stereo, heavy equipment) but now that sales in every area is in the shitter, there's no where to spread that money over because every division is hurting.
Other brands have became aggressive with rebates and such, while Suzuki seems to have shut the doors and windows and try to weather the storm.
Who knows which idea will end up working better, only time will tell. I do know I am selling 3 to 1 Kawi over Suzuki and usually between just those two lines Suzuki was always a little better in my market.
We cancelled our 2008's b/c of the delay and was only allocated 1 2009 and I cancelled it as well once the price increase happened.
The same can be said for the other local Suzuki dealers as well.
That said, I have sold 26 KX450F's in the same time frame...
Now, the '09 bike is much better than the '88 bike so you have to take that into consideration but it is a fairly large difference that will have an affect on sales, and ultimately the number of riders in the sport.
What about TLD/Lucas switching oems?
Anyone want to guess what they make a year not counting Suzuki vehicle and powersport demo's?
That said, who would everyone keep RC or TP199 on the payroll?
I can only imagine that the economy directly affects sales.
Let's see who actually bought a bike because of Chad Reed, or James Stewart. I bet not as many as you think. Thats where we need to rethink the spent money on riders. I agree they deserve to be paid well, but a pay cut that enables them to pay higher deeper in the field will increase the money in the sport overall.
Desktop computing wasn't even an industry when Microsoft arrived on the scene. We can shape our own industry too.
I thought he just had a contract with Cernics and suzuki just helped him out when he raced
Let's not forget to add in the cost of maintaining the $-stroke, and it's massive cost increase when it grenades compared to the 2-stroke.
Like a bloody cherry on top of a turd sunday, factor in the closure of riding areas due to noise (did someone say "thumper"), urban sprawl, eco-nazi's, and gvt. encroachment, and you have recipe for dead dirt bike sales.
Not everyone who buys a bike, buys it to race.
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Further up in the thread, someone else suggested a $4K bike. Take the current bikes, and figure where you'd have to cut costs to make it like that. Suspension? Engine? Chassis? Brakes? Marketing?
Can you imagine the reviews that a bike like that would get? I can only assume it'd be something like, "Great trail bike, but scary for full-on MX use."
Case in point, Intense Cycles, a custom mountain bike manufacturer in Temecula is having another record year, can't keep up with demand and their top of the line DH bike (M6) has an MSRP of about $3400, complete buffed out bike would run you about $7k.
They get more coverage than the whole rest of the suzuki riders put together by themselves.
Makita Suzuki will keep Dungey and Reed as they are the only real hop they have at more championships. Burner is out.
Mikey needs to go to JGR Racing as they have their shit together better than most OEM factory teams. Yamaha SM Indians has Bubba for the indoor title and Mikey will give Yamaha JGR a legit shot over the outdoor title. Grant is a good one for them to keep for both series if he can stay healthy too.
Then new kid Kyle regal should be rewarded with a ride in the Factory Yamaha truck as well as Goerke or Hahn.
Kawasaki will keep Villopoto but could add Moss and Hahn.
Honda is going to dump Short and need to clean house but they will keep Ivan or Davey.
From what I have been hearing, there are going to be some suprises coming...
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