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colintrax 11/15/2022 10:53am
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Reportedly Ukraine was struck with about 100 missiles today. A small border town in Poland was hit by 2 killing 2 people. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/15/576885/s1200_Screenshot_20221115_133247.jpg[/img]
Reportedly Ukraine was struck with about 100 missiles today. A small border town in Poland was hit by 2 killing 2 people.
Missiles hitting Poland too? That wasn't a good idea. Winter was some sort of chance for Russia to focus on training and supplying troops without constantly fighting and aggressive force.
If Poland steps in I imagine all of NATO is, war is over.
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DPR250R 11/15/2022 11:17am
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Wonder how Poland responds.
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kongols 11/15/2022 11:32am
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DPR250R wrote:
Wonder how Poland responds.
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early 11/15/2022 11:44am
11/15/2022 11:44am Edited Date/Time 11/15/2022 12:03pm
There's speculation it could have been fragments from a missile Ukraine intercepted. We'll see what happens.

Edit: doesn't seem likely given the destruction that resulted.
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SEEMEFIRST 11/15/2022 11:50am
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Where were they fired from?
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colintrax 11/15/2022 11:53am
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These missile strikes also knocked out power in Moldova
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Nighttrain 11/15/2022 12:00pm
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early wrote:
There's speculation it could have been fragments from a missile Ukraine intercepted. We'll see what happens.

Edit: doesn't seem likely given the destruction that resulted.
I read the Polish town is 40 miles from the border? This could be very, very bad.
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kongols 11/15/2022 12:05pm
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SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Where were they fired from?
Usually they are firing from planes over Black sea or Caspian Sea. Range is over 1000 miles.
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kongols 11/15/2022 12:12pm
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early wrote:
There's speculation it could have been fragments from a missile Ukraine intercepted. We'll see what happens.

Edit: doesn't seem likely given the destruction that resulted.
Nighttrain wrote:
I read the Polish town is 40 miles from the border? This could be very, very bad.
I just heard it`s 6.7 km or less than 5 miles.
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SEEMEFIRST 11/15/2022 1:50pm
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SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Where were they fired from?
kongols wrote:
Usually they are firing from planes over Black sea or Caspian Sea. Range is over 1000 miles.
Ah, thanks.
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plowboy 11/15/2022 2:13pm
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This could get messy real fast. Nowadays the accidental death of people in the building NEXT to the one targeted is a big deal. 5 miles away from the target is either gross incompetence or deliberate.

I hope it's just a mistake and they admit to it. Otherwise, I stand 100% by the NATO promise. I do realize that means an ugly prospect but enough is a fucking 'nough.
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King_George_III 11/15/2022 2:34pm
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Imagine being so incompetent you miss the largest country in Europe.
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plowboy 11/15/2022 2:53pm
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King_George_III wrote:
Imagine being so incompetent you miss the largest country in Europe.
I hope it is incompetence...
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ns503 11/15/2022 2:58pm
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They say they didn't do it. That leaves- the boogeyman?
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plowboy 11/15/2022 3:02pm
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I normally never think to look at the thumbs up/down thing. I saw my previous post got a couple of downs. That's cool but I would like to know how my opinion is so divergent. I can only believe that there are folks that don't believe we should be in NATO or not fully commit to it's obligations. If you'd care to comment...feel free.
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plowboy 11/15/2022 3:06pm
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ns503 wrote:
They say they didn't do it. That leaves- the boogeyman?
Another "fake" news report? Next, they'll say the Ukrainian's did it to bring NATO into the fight. Or Biden did it on Hillary's behest...fuck me.
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swordfish 11/15/2022 3:10pm
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So he broke the law, went to prison and joined Wagner to get out of jail?
Zelenskyy let convicts serve and fight. What’s the difference?
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[i]Kakubo called on the Russian authorities to provide further details regarding the recruitment of Nyirenda and how he ended up fighting in Ukraine. According to Kakubo...
Kakubo called on the Russian authorities to provide further details regarding the recruitment of Nyirenda and how he ended up fighting in Ukraine.

According to Kakubo, Nyirenda was convicted and sentenced to nine years at Tyer medium security facility on the outskirts of the Russian capital in April 2020.

It remains unclear what charges Nyirenda was convicted of.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/11/14/zambian-student-killed-on-rus…
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Yeah I read the link you posted.
Did I miss something?
Kakubo couldn’t have been too concerned about a foreign national being imprisoned if he didn’t have a clue about the details after a couple years. Now they are?

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The Oracle 11/15/2022 3:10pm
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Early photos of the debris looks to me like a S-300 missile which is what the Ukrainians are using for anti air-defence.

in case it was intentional from the Russians I could see two entirely different reasons for it:
The only active power line from Poland to Ukraine is only 4-5 km away from the blast site. 15 targets relates to power were hit in Ukraine today, so it’s not unlikely it was a target.

The second reason is: Putin is losing this war. If he pulls out now, the Russians will see him as a weak and failed leader that could not even beat the “farmers in Ukraine”. If nato went in however, the Russians would not want to see their sons and husbands being cannon fodder and would want them to pull out, and Putin could once again go on about blaming the west.

Purely speculations and my thoughts of course.
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swordfish 11/15/2022 3:14pm
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swordfish wrote:


https://youtu.be/PSBy8Mqh118
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I love those flicks.
He sure fucked them Russians up!!
They’re always good bad guys.
I used to work with Russians and Ukrainians. They always scared the shit out of me.
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swordfish 11/15/2022 3:15pm
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The Oracle wrote:
Early photos of the debris [i]looks[/i] to me like a S-300 missile which is what the Ukrainians are using for anti air-defence. in case it was...
Early photos of the debris looks to me like a S-300 missile which is what the Ukrainians are using for anti air-defence.

in case it was intentional from the Russians I could see two entirely different reasons for it:
The only active power line from Poland to Ukraine is only 4-5 km away from the blast site. 15 targets relates to power were hit in Ukraine today, so it’s not unlikely it was a target.

The second reason is: Putin is losing this war. If he pulls out now, the Russians will see him as a weak and failed leader that could not even beat the “farmers in Ukraine”. If nato went in however, the Russians would not want to see their sons and husbands being cannon fodder and would want them to pull out, and Putin could once again go on about blaming the west.

Purely speculations and my thoughts of course.
Not a bad theory.
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plowboy 11/15/2022 3:17pm
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The Oracle wrote:
Early photos of the debris [i]looks[/i] to me like a S-300 missile which is what the Ukrainians are using for anti air-defence. in case it was...
Early photos of the debris looks to me like a S-300 missile which is what the Ukrainians are using for anti air-defence.

in case it was intentional from the Russians I could see two entirely different reasons for it:
The only active power line from Poland to Ukraine is only 4-5 km away from the blast site. 15 targets relates to power were hit in Ukraine today, so it’s not unlikely it was a target.

The second reason is: Putin is losing this war. If he pulls out now, the Russians will see him as a weak and failed leader that could not even beat the “farmers in Ukraine”. If nato went in however, the Russians would not want to see their sons and husbands being cannon fodder and would want them to pull out, and Putin could once again go on about blaming the west.

Purely speculations and my thoughts of course.
If it was a Ukrainian air defense missile...I hope they admit it. Bad damn luck and whatever. Anything to prevent the next level of shit this could go to.

The Poles aren't ultimately gonna blame Ukraine. If Russia wasn't being shit heads... Ukraine wouldn't be firing missiles.
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swordfish 11/15/2022 3:21pm
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The Oracle wrote:
Early photos of the debris [i]looks[/i] to me like a S-300 missile which is what the Ukrainians are using for anti air-defence. in case it was...
Early photos of the debris looks to me like a S-300 missile which is what the Ukrainians are using for anti air-defence.

in case it was intentional from the Russians I could see two entirely different reasons for it:
The only active power line from Poland to Ukraine is only 4-5 km away from the blast site. 15 targets relates to power were hit in Ukraine today, so it’s not unlikely it was a target.

The second reason is: Putin is losing this war. If he pulls out now, the Russians will see him as a weak and failed leader that could not even beat the “farmers in Ukraine”. If nato went in however, the Russians would not want to see their sons and husbands being cannon fodder and would want them to pull out, and Putin could once again go on about blaming the west.

Purely speculations and my thoughts of course.
plowboy wrote:
If it was a Ukrainian air defense missile...I hope they admit it. Bad damn luck and whatever. Anything to prevent the next level of shit this...
If it was a Ukrainian air defense missile...I hope they admit it. Bad damn luck and whatever. Anything to prevent the next level of shit this could go to.

The Poles aren't ultimately gonna blame Ukraine. If Russia wasn't being shit heads... Ukraine wouldn't be firing missiles.
Luckily the Poles hate the Russians even more than they hate Ukrainians.
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colintrax 11/15/2022 8:07pm
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Chance1216 wrote:
Could the missiles have originated in Belarus?
I would assume if Biden is saying it likely isn't Russian than he has intelligence saying these were air defense missiles fired by Ukraine that missed their target. If the intelligence was saying Belarus he'd say so. We already have sanctions against Belarus as they're aiding Russia.

Still not good at all, but better than Russian missiles.
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