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What happened to the thread?

Oh well. Ya'll better start eating healthy.

















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Straightboy is following the lead of, leave it to beaver, and sloan.
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Ah, yes, the far left's agenda in America.

See you in November!
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What happened to the thread? Oh well. Ya'll better start eating healthy. [embed][/embed] This man with a lint roller is a legend 😂 pic.twitter.com/hqqLpzkZuh— Clown...
What happened to the thread?

Oh well. Ya'll better start eating healthy.

















It was a garbage article. I shouldn't have given it any promotion and I deleted the thread.
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Ah, yes, the far left's agenda in America.

See you in November!
Welcome to November. You won't, but consider if you were the one following "The Narrative" all along with this red wave bullshit the last several months.
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Pretty Obvious what we are seeing, A person that can't speak on a debate.
But he wins?!?
John Fetterman is yet another puppet organized by the left to hold a seat in the Senate.
And thats their best bet???!!..LOL.

And for what reason? It surely isn't for the "People".
I'd guess for an agenda to destroy the Constitutional rights amongst Americans.

Prove me wrong. The whole state is Red but eight counties.
Guess which Counties?

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Pretty Obvious what we are seeing, A person that can't speak on a debate. But he wins?!? John Fetterman is yet another puppet organized by the...
Pretty Obvious what we are seeing, A person that can't speak on a debate.
But he wins?!?
John Fetterman is yet another puppet organized by the left to hold a seat in the Senate.
And thats their best bet???!!..LOL.

And for what reason? It surely isn't for the "People".
I'd guess for an agenda to destroy the Constitutional rights amongst Americans.

Prove me wrong. The whole state is Red but eight counties.
Guess which Counties?

The puppet on the left defeated the puppet on the right.

That proves diddly.

Except, maybe, that all the people in the middle, and maybe finally some on the right, have a growing distaste for the guy still pull strings on the right. Who, coincidentally (or maybe not), also ran the biggest assault in the Constitution in modern times.
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Pretty Obvious what we are seeing, A person that can't speak on a debate. But he wins?!? John Fetterman is yet another puppet organized by the...
Pretty Obvious what we are seeing, A person that can't speak on a debate.
But he wins?!?
John Fetterman is yet another puppet organized by the left to hold a seat in the Senate.
And thats their best bet???!!..LOL.

And for what reason? It surely isn't for the "People".
I'd guess for an agenda to destroy the Constitutional rights amongst Americans.

Prove me wrong. The whole state is Red but eight counties.
Guess which Counties?

There are no 'Blue States'. Not hardly any 'Blue Counties'. There are blue CITIES. Just shade any USA map in its entirety by county and see the facts. Highly populated, dense urban cities chock fulla people who dont own anything and they vote for a living. Completely detached from what regular, tax paying, law abiding, hard working Americans are living day to day. They have no stake in the game other that getting. They were born and raised completely detached from hard times and are 21st Century, 1st World spoiled brats. They spend the vast majority of their waking hours staring at some kind of screen somewhere, large or small, their brains literally being trained/programmed, via dopamine, by whatever 'hip' or 'cool' talking head that is parroting some pop-culture blather through whatever is the cool new 'App Dejour' loaded with brain-dead 'Social Influencers' telling them how to think and how to act. No different than lab rats pushing the bar for a crack dose. Dopamine hits. Literally rewiring their brains. They are easily programmed and that is how we get AOCs and the newly minted hoody wearing Slingblade doppelganger. Mmm-hmm.

Keep your head on a swivel and your powder dry folks, its gonna get much worse before it gets better.
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Pretty Obvious what we are seeing, A person that can't speak on a debate. But he wins?!? John Fetterman is yet another puppet organized by the...
Pretty Obvious what we are seeing, A person that can't speak on a debate.
But he wins?!?
John Fetterman is yet another puppet organized by the left to hold a seat in the Senate.
And thats their best bet???!!..LOL.

And for what reason? It surely isn't for the "People".
I'd guess for an agenda to destroy the Constitutional rights amongst Americans.

Prove me wrong. The whole state is Red but eight counties.
Guess which Counties?

JAFO92 wrote:
There are no 'Blue States'. Not hardly any 'Blue Counties'. There are blue CITIES. Just shade any USA map in its entirety by county and see...
There are no 'Blue States'. Not hardly any 'Blue Counties'. There are blue CITIES. Just shade any USA map in its entirety by county and see the facts. Highly populated, dense urban cities chock fulla people who dont own anything and they vote for a living. Completely detached from what regular, tax paying, law abiding, hard working Americans are living day to day. They have no stake in the game other that getting. They were born and raised completely detached from hard times and are 21st Century, 1st World spoiled brats. They spend the vast majority of their waking hours staring at some kind of screen somewhere, large or small, their brains literally being trained/programmed, via dopamine, by whatever 'hip' or 'cool' talking head that is parroting some pop-culture blather through whatever is the cool new 'App Dejour' loaded with brain-dead 'Social Influencers' telling them how to think and how to act. No different than lab rats pushing the bar for a crack dose. Dopamine hits. Literally rewiring their brains. They are easily programmed and that is how we get AOCs and the newly minted hoody wearing Slingblade doppelganger. Mmm-hmm.

Keep your head on a swivel and your powder dry folks, its gonna get much worse before it gets better.
Nailed it!

If there was ever an argument for an extremely limited federal government it’s a map of red counties and blue counties…this entire country, except for large cities, is red….but those large cities largely control the federal government…urban americas want/need different things from their government than the rest of America…yet those urban areas control a federal government with in has far to much control on rural America.

Time to start drastically limiting the size, scope, and influence of the federal government in our lives…the states should have far more control and influence than they do….it’s the only way to prevent some spoiled, screen addicted, brat in New York City from having control over what a rural farmer in Wyoming does….
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Titan1 wrote:
Nailed it! If there was ever an argument for an extremely limited federal government it’s a map of red counties and blue counties…this entire country, except...
Nailed it!

If there was ever an argument for an extremely limited federal government it’s a map of red counties and blue counties…this entire country, except for large cities, is red….but those large cities largely control the federal government…urban americas want/need different things from their government than the rest of America…yet those urban areas control a federal government with in has far to much control on rural America.

Time to start drastically limiting the size, scope, and influence of the federal government in our lives…the states should have far more control and influence than they do….it’s the only way to prevent some spoiled, screen addicted, brat in New York City from having control over what a rural farmer in Wyoming does….
What specific federal government policies do you (or rural America in general) have the biggest problems with?
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Titan1 wrote:
Nailed it! If there was ever an argument for an extremely limited federal government it’s a map of red counties and blue counties…this entire country, except...
Nailed it!

If there was ever an argument for an extremely limited federal government it’s a map of red counties and blue counties…this entire country, except for large cities, is red….but those large cities largely control the federal government…urban americas want/need different things from their government than the rest of America…yet those urban areas control a federal government with in has far to much control on rural America.

Time to start drastically limiting the size, scope, and influence of the federal government in our lives…the states should have far more control and influence than they do….it’s the only way to prevent some spoiled, screen addicted, brat in New York City from having control over what a rural farmer in Wyoming does….
early wrote:
What specific federal government policies do you (or rural America in general) have the biggest problems with?
Most all federal taxes, social programs, creating massive national monuments, ObamaCare, pretty much the far left agenda, and a lot of the right wing agenda…read the 10th amendment…the federal government has drastically overstepped. I wish the Supreme Court would hand more and more federal programs and laws and regulations down to the states (like they did abortion).
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Pretty Obvious what we are seeing, A person that can't speak on a debate. But he wins?!? John Fetterman is yet another puppet organized by the...
Pretty Obvious what we are seeing, A person that can't speak on a debate.
But he wins?!?
John Fetterman is yet another puppet organized by the left to hold a seat in the Senate.
And thats their best bet???!!..LOL.

And for what reason? It surely isn't for the "People".
I'd guess for an agenda to destroy the Constitutional rights amongst Americans.

Prove me wrong. The whole state is Red but eight counties.
Guess which Counties?

JAFO92 wrote:
There are no 'Blue States'. Not hardly any 'Blue Counties'. There are blue CITIES. Just shade any USA map in its entirety by county and see...
There are no 'Blue States'. Not hardly any 'Blue Counties'. There are blue CITIES. Just shade any USA map in its entirety by county and see the facts. Highly populated, dense urban cities chock fulla people who dont own anything and they vote for a living. Completely detached from what regular, tax paying, law abiding, hard working Americans are living day to day. They have no stake in the game other that getting. They were born and raised completely detached from hard times and are 21st Century, 1st World spoiled brats. They spend the vast majority of their waking hours staring at some kind of screen somewhere, large or small, their brains literally being trained/programmed, via dopamine, by whatever 'hip' or 'cool' talking head that is parroting some pop-culture blather through whatever is the cool new 'App Dejour' loaded with brain-dead 'Social Influencers' telling them how to think and how to act. No different than lab rats pushing the bar for a crack dose. Dopamine hits. Literally rewiring their brains. They are easily programmed and that is how we get AOCs and the newly minted hoody wearing Slingblade doppelganger. Mmm-hmm.

Keep your head on a swivel and your powder dry folks, its gonna get much worse before it gets better.
Titan1 wrote:
Nailed it! If there was ever an argument for an extremely limited federal government it’s a map of red counties and blue counties…this entire country, except...
Nailed it!

If there was ever an argument for an extremely limited federal government it’s a map of red counties and blue counties…this entire country, except for large cities, is red….but those large cities largely control the federal government…urban americas want/need different things from their government than the rest of America…yet those urban areas control a federal government with in has far to much control on rural America.

Time to start drastically limiting the size, scope, and influence of the federal government in our lives…the states should have far more control and influence than they do….it’s the only way to prevent some spoiled, screen addicted, brat in New York City from having control over what a rural farmer in Wyoming does….
You understand that those vast amounts of ‘red counties’ simply represent far less people, correct? Those maps really are meaningless because our country isn’t designed to ‘vote by the acre’.

However, thanks to the way that the Senate is designed the the spoiled, screen addicted person from Wyoming already has more power over the rural farmer in New York than vice versa.
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ns503 wrote:
The puppet on the left defeated the puppet on the right. That proves diddly. Except, maybe, that all the people in the middle, and maybe finally...
The puppet on the left defeated the puppet on the right.

That proves diddly.

Except, maybe, that all the people in the middle, and maybe finally some on the right, have a growing distaste for the guy still pull strings on the right. Who, coincidentally (or maybe not), also ran the biggest assault in the Constitution in modern times.
Please provide one example of Trump "assaulting the constitution". Everything democrats feared from Trump, none of which ended up happening of course, was then enacted or conducted by biden. Democrat hypocrisy knows no bounds.
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JAFO92 wrote:
There are no 'Blue States'. Not hardly any 'Blue Counties'. There are blue CITIES. Just shade any USA map in its entirety by county and see...
There are no 'Blue States'. Not hardly any 'Blue Counties'. There are blue CITIES. Just shade any USA map in its entirety by county and see the facts. Highly populated, dense urban cities chock fulla people who dont own anything and they vote for a living. Completely detached from what regular, tax paying, law abiding, hard working Americans are living day to day. They have no stake in the game other that getting. They were born and raised completely detached from hard times and are 21st Century, 1st World spoiled brats. They spend the vast majority of their waking hours staring at some kind of screen somewhere, large or small, their brains literally being trained/programmed, via dopamine, by whatever 'hip' or 'cool' talking head that is parroting some pop-culture blather through whatever is the cool new 'App Dejour' loaded with brain-dead 'Social Influencers' telling them how to think and how to act. No different than lab rats pushing the bar for a crack dose. Dopamine hits. Literally rewiring their brains. They are easily programmed and that is how we get AOCs and the newly minted hoody wearing Slingblade doppelganger. Mmm-hmm.

Keep your head on a swivel and your powder dry folks, its gonna get much worse before it gets better.
Titan1 wrote:
Nailed it! If there was ever an argument for an extremely limited federal government it’s a map of red counties and blue counties…this entire country, except...
Nailed it!

If there was ever an argument for an extremely limited federal government it’s a map of red counties and blue counties…this entire country, except for large cities, is red….but those large cities largely control the federal government…urban americas want/need different things from their government than the rest of America…yet those urban areas control a federal government with in has far to much control on rural America.

Time to start drastically limiting the size, scope, and influence of the federal government in our lives…the states should have far more control and influence than they do….it’s the only way to prevent some spoiled, screen addicted, brat in New York City from having control over what a rural farmer in Wyoming does….
APLMAN99 wrote:
You understand that those vast amounts of ‘red counties’ simply represent far less people, correct? Those maps really are meaningless because our country isn’t designed to...
You understand that those vast amounts of ‘red counties’ simply represent far less people, correct? Those maps really are meaningless because our country isn’t designed to ‘vote by the acre’.

However, thanks to the way that the Senate is designed the the spoiled, screen addicted person from Wyoming already has more power over the rural farmer in New York than vice versa.
The point is that a rural American in Wyoming needs and wants different things from government than the urban American in New York….so reducing the size, scope, influence, and power of the federal government and delegating more power to the states is the best way to do that.

The urban Americans get their way in America because, as you said, there are more of them…and that does a disservice to rural Americans.

Trying to govern a diverse America with a blanket approach from the federal level is part of the problem…more power to the states, and a smaller less powerful and intrusive federal government solves a lot of problems.
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Titan1 wrote:
Most all federal taxes, social programs, creating massive national monuments, ObamaCare, pretty much the far left agenda, and a lot of the right wing agenda…read the...
Most all federal taxes, social programs, creating massive national monuments, ObamaCare, pretty much the far left agenda, and a lot of the right wing agenda…read the 10th amendment…the federal government has drastically overstepped. I wish the Supreme Court would hand more and more federal programs and laws and regulations down to the states (like they did abortion).
I think that facilitating smooth intestate and international commerce is one of the most important jobs of the federal government, look at the shit show Brexit has caused.

I think that maintaining a relatively healthy populace is beneficial to society.

I think that the model of tying medical care to your job is broken when many jobs especially low paying do not provide that option.

I think that establishing and maintaining public land is one of the best uses of government.

Theres a real question of how much assistance to give to the old and the poor. The thing is that the less assistance you provide to those people doesn't make the problem go away, it just moves the problem to other burden bearers.
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Titan1 wrote:
Most all federal taxes, social programs, creating massive national monuments, ObamaCare, pretty much the far left agenda, and a lot of the right wing agenda…read the...
Most all federal taxes, social programs, creating massive national monuments, ObamaCare, pretty much the far left agenda, and a lot of the right wing agenda…read the 10th amendment…the federal government has drastically overstepped. I wish the Supreme Court would hand more and more federal programs and laws and regulations down to the states (like they did abortion).
early wrote:
I think that facilitating smooth intestate and international commerce is one of the most important jobs of the federal government, look at the shit show Brexit...
I think that facilitating smooth intestate and international commerce is one of the most important jobs of the federal government, look at the shit show Brexit has caused.

I think that maintaining a relatively healthy populace is beneficial to society.

I think that the model of tying medical care to your job is broken when many jobs especially low paying do not provide that option.

I think that establishing and maintaining public land is one of the best uses of government.

Theres a real question of how much assistance to give to the old and the poor. The thing is that the less assistance you provide to those people doesn't make the problem go away, it just moves the problem to other burden bearers.
The need/benefit/value of each of those can be debated…but to assume the federal government will be better, and more efficient at those things than the states could be, based on the performance of the federal government at pretty much anything but war, is a bit off the mark in my opinion.
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11/10/2022 7:16am Edited Date/Time 11/10/2022 7:59am
Titan1 wrote:
Most all federal taxes, social programs, creating massive national monuments, ObamaCare, pretty much the far left agenda, and a lot of the right wing agenda…read the...
Most all federal taxes, social programs, creating massive national monuments, ObamaCare, pretty much the far left agenda, and a lot of the right wing agenda…read the 10th amendment…the federal government has drastically overstepped. I wish the Supreme Court would hand more and more federal programs and laws and regulations down to the states (like they did abortion).
early wrote:
I think that facilitating smooth intestate and international commerce is one of the most important jobs of the federal government, look at the shit show Brexit...
I think that facilitating smooth intestate and international commerce is one of the most important jobs of the federal government, look at the shit show Brexit has caused.

I think that maintaining a relatively healthy populace is beneficial to society.

I think that the model of tying medical care to your job is broken when many jobs especially low paying do not provide that option.

I think that establishing and maintaining public land is one of the best uses of government.

Theres a real question of how much assistance to give to the old and the poor. The thing is that the less assistance you provide to those people doesn't make the problem go away, it just moves the problem to other burden bearers.
Brexit is only a issue because the people voted for it and the politicians did everything they could to not give the people what they voted for. I'd suggest you go back and read up about it. I know alot of people and businesses associates we work with that stand by it was brexit in name only. Everyone I've met or talked to on the issue over there say they got fucked by their own government.
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11/10/2022 9:11am Edited Date/Time 11/10/2022 9:12am
JAFO92 wrote:
There are no 'Blue States'. Not hardly any 'Blue Counties'. There are blue CITIES. Just shade any USA map in its entirety by county and see...
There are no 'Blue States'. Not hardly any 'Blue Counties'. There are blue CITIES. Just shade any USA map in its entirety by county and see the facts. Highly populated, dense urban cities chock fulla people who dont own anything and they vote for a living. Completely detached from what regular, tax paying, law abiding, hard working Americans are living day to day. They have no stake in the game other that getting. They were born and raised completely detached from hard times and are 21st Century, 1st World spoiled brats. They spend the vast majority of their waking hours staring at some kind of screen somewhere, large or small, their brains literally being trained/programmed, via dopamine, by whatever 'hip' or 'cool' talking head that is parroting some pop-culture blather through whatever is the cool new 'App Dejour' loaded with brain-dead 'Social Influencers' telling them how to think and how to act. No different than lab rats pushing the bar for a crack dose. Dopamine hits. Literally rewiring their brains. They are easily programmed and that is how we get AOCs and the newly minted hoody wearing Slingblade doppelganger. Mmm-hmm.

Keep your head on a swivel and your powder dry folks, its gonna get much worse before it gets better.
Titan1 wrote:
Nailed it! If there was ever an argument for an extremely limited federal government it’s a map of red counties and blue counties…this entire country, except...
Nailed it!

If there was ever an argument for an extremely limited federal government it’s a map of red counties and blue counties…this entire country, except for large cities, is red….but those large cities largely control the federal government…urban americas want/need different things from their government than the rest of America…yet those urban areas control a federal government with in has far to much control on rural America.

Time to start drastically limiting the size, scope, and influence of the federal government in our lives…the states should have far more control and influence than they do….it’s the only way to prevent some spoiled, screen addicted, brat in New York City from having control over what a rural farmer in Wyoming does….
APLMAN99 wrote:
You understand that those vast amounts of ‘red counties’ simply represent far less people, correct? Those maps really are meaningless because our country isn’t designed to...
You understand that those vast amounts of ‘red counties’ simply represent far less people, correct? Those maps really are meaningless because our country isn’t designed to ‘vote by the acre’.

However, thanks to the way that the Senate is designed the the spoiled, screen addicted person from Wyoming already has more power over the rural farmer in New York than vice versa.
not the case in every election... but I agree, the federal gov't should have less power!


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Titan1 wrote:
Most all federal taxes, social programs, creating massive national monuments, ObamaCare, pretty much the far left agenda, and a lot of the right wing agenda…read the...
Most all federal taxes, social programs, creating massive national monuments, ObamaCare, pretty much the far left agenda, and a lot of the right wing agenda…read the 10th amendment…the federal government has drastically overstepped. I wish the Supreme Court would hand more and more federal programs and laws and regulations down to the states (like they did abortion).
early wrote:
I think that facilitating smooth intestate and international commerce is one of the most important jobs of the federal government, look at the shit show Brexit...
I think that facilitating smooth intestate and international commerce is one of the most important jobs of the federal government, look at the shit show Brexit has caused.

I think that maintaining a relatively healthy populace is beneficial to society.

I think that the model of tying medical care to your job is broken when many jobs especially low paying do not provide that option.

I think that establishing and maintaining public land is one of the best uses of government.

Theres a real question of how much assistance to give to the old and the poor. The thing is that the less assistance you provide to those people doesn't make the problem go away, it just moves the problem to other burden bearers.
Titan1 wrote:
The need/benefit/value of each of those can be debated…but to assume the federal government will be better, and more efficient at those things than the states...
The need/benefit/value of each of those can be debated…but to assume the federal government will be better, and more efficient at those things than the states could be, based on the performance of the federal government at pretty much anything but war, is a bit off the mark in my opinion.
There’s not a solution to reducing federal government influence in the states short of states leaving the United States and becoming their own country because they take the money.

The more rural states, less populated, take in more federal money than they put in as a ratio of income taxes paid in vs. what they get from Uncle Sam, also higher percentage of state revenue is from the feds. In a sense you could say that those states are dependent on the federal government, the wealth is spread to them from other states. A state like Wyoming would have to give up that sweet cash, not likely.
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Titan1 wrote:
Nailed it! If there was ever an argument for an extremely limited federal government it’s a map of red counties and blue counties…this entire country, except...
Nailed it!

If there was ever an argument for an extremely limited federal government it’s a map of red counties and blue counties…this entire country, except for large cities, is red….but those large cities largely control the federal government…urban americas want/need different things from their government than the rest of America…yet those urban areas control a federal government with in has far to much control on rural America.

Time to start drastically limiting the size, scope, and influence of the federal government in our lives…the states should have far more control and influence than they do….it’s the only way to prevent some spoiled, screen addicted, brat in New York City from having control over what a rural farmer in Wyoming does….
APLMAN99 wrote:
You understand that those vast amounts of ‘red counties’ simply represent far less people, correct? Those maps really are meaningless because our country isn’t designed to...
You understand that those vast amounts of ‘red counties’ simply represent far less people, correct? Those maps really are meaningless because our country isn’t designed to ‘vote by the acre’.

However, thanks to the way that the Senate is designed the the spoiled, screen addicted person from Wyoming already has more power over the rural farmer in New York than vice versa.
Titan1 wrote:
The point is that a rural American in Wyoming needs and wants different things from government than the urban American in New York….so reducing the size...
The point is that a rural American in Wyoming needs and wants different things from government than the urban American in New York….so reducing the size, scope, influence, and power of the federal government and delegating more power to the states is the best way to do that.

The urban Americans get their way in America because, as you said, there are more of them…and that does a disservice to rural Americans.

Trying to govern a diverse America with a blanket approach from the federal level is part of the problem…more power to the states, and a smaller less powerful and intrusive federal government solves a lot of problems.
What things does an urban American from New York vote on that directly affects a rural American from Wyoming?

Currently, that rural American from Wyoming already has a greater voice in the federal government because of the static makeup of the Senate.

What specifically does the guy from NY do that hurts the guy in Wyoming? I mean that coming from a rural, farming area.
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this was a lot cooler in gif format, but i couldn't find it

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APLMAN99 wrote:
You understand that those vast amounts of ‘red counties’ simply represent far less people, correct? Those maps really are meaningless because our country isn’t designed to...
You understand that those vast amounts of ‘red counties’ simply represent far less people, correct? Those maps really are meaningless because our country isn’t designed to ‘vote by the acre’.

However, thanks to the way that the Senate is designed the the spoiled, screen addicted person from Wyoming already has more power over the rural farmer in New York than vice versa.
Titan1 wrote:
The point is that a rural American in Wyoming needs and wants different things from government than the urban American in New York….so reducing the size...
The point is that a rural American in Wyoming needs and wants different things from government than the urban American in New York….so reducing the size, scope, influence, and power of the federal government and delegating more power to the states is the best way to do that.

The urban Americans get their way in America because, as you said, there are more of them…and that does a disservice to rural Americans.

Trying to govern a diverse America with a blanket approach from the federal level is part of the problem…more power to the states, and a smaller less powerful and intrusive federal government solves a lot of problems.
APLMAN99 wrote:
What things does an urban American from New York vote on that directly affects a rural American from Wyoming? Currently, that rural American from Wyoming already...
What things does an urban American from New York vote on that directly affects a rural American from Wyoming?

Currently, that rural American from Wyoming already has a greater voice in the federal government because of the static makeup of the Senate.

What specifically does the guy from NY do that hurts the guy in Wyoming? I mean that coming from a rural, farming area.
I’m not about to go down your hair splitting rabbit hole again…I’ve done that too many times with you already…

But I will say the most top of mind one for me….Some senator from New York keeps sponsoring a Wilderness bill that would designate 40% of the public land in utah as a wilderness area (that’s a landmass the size of Massachusetts and Connecticut combines). Wilderness areas are the most restrictive land designation…No machines allowed (not just motors, no machines-no bicycles), no human structures….It is opposed by the entire Utah congressional delegation, the extreme majority of Utahans…so the environmental group (SUWA) goes across the country to find someone that will sponsor it….and outside of just being entirely unnecessary, the bill limits rural Americans access to jobs, and recreation….and they are the mercy of voters on the other side of the country who will most likely never see it, and whose lives will never be affected by it one way or the other. Why? To much federal power.
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The puppet on the left defeated the puppet on the right. That proves diddly. Except, maybe, that all the people in the middle, and maybe finally...
The puppet on the left defeated the puppet on the right.

That proves diddly.

Except, maybe, that all the people in the middle, and maybe finally some on the right, have a growing distaste for the guy still pull strings on the right. Who, coincidentally (or maybe not), also ran the biggest assault in the Constitution in modern times.
freeh wrote:
Please provide one example of Trump "assaulting the constitution". Everything democrats feared from Trump, none of which ended up happening of course, was then enacted or...
Please provide one example of Trump "assaulting the constitution". Everything democrats feared from Trump, none of which ended up happening of course, was then enacted or conducted by biden. Democrat hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Well, there was that time he rallied his supporters to storm the Capitol and stop the peaceful transfer of power. They were even trying to find the VP so they could hang him. 'Stop the steal' was the biggest rallying cry against the Constitution yet.
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I’m not about to go down your hair splitting rabbit hole again…I’ve done that too many times with you already… But I will say the most...
I’m not about to go down your hair splitting rabbit hole again…I’ve done that too many times with you already…

But I will say the most top of mind one for me….Some senator from New York keeps sponsoring a Wilderness bill that would designate 40% of the public land in utah as a wilderness area (that’s a landmass the size of Massachusetts and Connecticut combines). Wilderness areas are the most restrictive land designation…No machines allowed (not just motors, no machines-no bicycles), no human structures….It is opposed by the entire Utah congressional delegation, the extreme majority of Utahans…so the environmental group (SUWA) goes across the country to find someone that will sponsor it….and outside of just being entirely unnecessary, the bill limits rural Americans access to jobs, and recreation….and they are the mercy of voters on the other side of the country who will most likely never see it, and whose lives will never be affected by it one way or the other. Why? To much federal power.
This^^ 100%
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There are no 'Blue States'. Not hardly any 'Blue Counties'. There are blue CITIES. Just shade any USA map in its entirety by county and see...
There are no 'Blue States'. Not hardly any 'Blue Counties'. There are blue CITIES. Just shade any USA map in its entirety by county and see the facts. Highly populated, dense urban cities chock fulla people who dont own anything and they vote for a living. Completely detached from what regular, tax paying, law abiding, hard working Americans are living day to day. They have no stake in the game other that getting. They were born and raised completely detached from hard times and are 21st Century, 1st World spoiled brats. They spend the vast majority of their waking hours staring at some kind of screen somewhere, large or small, their brains literally being trained/programmed, via dopamine, by whatever 'hip' or 'cool' talking head that is parroting some pop-culture blather through whatever is the cool new 'App Dejour' loaded with brain-dead 'Social Influencers' telling them how to think and how to act. No different than lab rats pushing the bar for a crack dose. Dopamine hits. Literally rewiring their brains. They are easily programmed and that is how we get AOCs and the newly minted hoody wearing Slingblade doppelganger. Mmm-hmm.

Keep your head on a swivel and your powder dry folks, its gonna get much worse before it gets better.
let me know where these cities are where you can afford to live via voting for a living.

don't overdose on that copium guy.
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ns503 wrote:
The puppet on the left defeated the puppet on the right. That proves diddly. Except, maybe, that all the people in the middle, and maybe finally...
The puppet on the left defeated the puppet on the right.

That proves diddly.

Except, maybe, that all the people in the middle, and maybe finally some on the right, have a growing distaste for the guy still pull strings on the right. Who, coincidentally (or maybe not), also ran the biggest assault in the Constitution in modern times.
freeh wrote:
Please provide one example of Trump "assaulting the constitution". Everything democrats feared from Trump, none of which ended up happening of course, was then enacted or...
Please provide one example of Trump "assaulting the constitution". Everything democrats feared from Trump, none of which ended up happening of course, was then enacted or conducted by biden. Democrat hypocrisy knows no bounds.
ns503 wrote:
Well, there was that time he rallied his supporters to storm the Capitol and stop the peaceful transfer of power. They were even trying to find...
Well, there was that time he rallied his supporters to storm the Capitol and stop the peaceful transfer of power. They were even trying to find the VP so they could hang him. 'Stop the steal' was the biggest rallying cry against the Constitution yet.
Damn, if only there could have been a formal proceeding to ultimately bring charges against someone who would do such a thing. Wait, there were proceedings and nothing happened to Trump, because the proceedings actually vindicated him. Got anything else? Yeah, didn't think so. Try focusing on your own country's wannabe authoritarian for a change.
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freeh wrote:
Please provide one example of Trump "assaulting the constitution". Everything democrats feared from Trump, none of which ended up happening of course, was then enacted or...
Please provide one example of Trump "assaulting the constitution". Everything democrats feared from Trump, none of which ended up happening of course, was then enacted or conducted by biden. Democrat hypocrisy knows no bounds.
ns503 wrote:
Well, there was that time he rallied his supporters to storm the Capitol and stop the peaceful transfer of power. They were even trying to find...
Well, there was that time he rallied his supporters to storm the Capitol and stop the peaceful transfer of power. They were even trying to find the VP so they could hang him. 'Stop the steal' was the biggest rallying cry against the Constitution yet.
freeh wrote:
Damn, if only there could have been a formal proceeding to ultimately bring charges against someone who would do such a thing. Wait, there were proceedings...
Damn, if only there could have been a formal proceeding to ultimately bring charges against someone who would do such a thing. Wait, there were proceedings and nothing happened to Trump, because the proceedings actually vindicated him. Got anything else? Yeah, didn't think so. Try focusing on your own country's wannabe authoritarian for a change.
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ns503 wrote:
Well, there was that time he rallied his supporters to storm the Capitol and stop the peaceful transfer of power. They were even trying to find...
Well, there was that time he rallied his supporters to storm the Capitol and stop the peaceful transfer of power. They were even trying to find the VP so they could hang him. 'Stop the steal' was the biggest rallying cry against the Constitution yet.
freeh wrote:
Damn, if only there could have been a formal proceeding to ultimately bring charges against someone who would do such a thing. Wait, there were proceedings...
Damn, if only there could have been a formal proceeding to ultimately bring charges against someone who would do such a thing. Wait, there were proceedings and nothing happened to Trump, because the proceedings actually vindicated him. Got anything else? Yeah, didn't think so. Try focusing on your own country's wannabe authoritarian for a change.
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JFC, what a clown Trudeau is. Good luck with all that!
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Titan1 wrote:
I’m not about to go down your hair splitting rabbit hole again…I’ve done that too many times with you already… But I will say the most...
I’m not about to go down your hair splitting rabbit hole again…I’ve done that too many times with you already…

But I will say the most top of mind one for me….Some senator from New York keeps sponsoring a Wilderness bill that would designate 40% of the public land in utah as a wilderness area (that’s a landmass the size of Massachusetts and Connecticut combines). Wilderness areas are the most restrictive land designation…No machines allowed (not just motors, no machines-no bicycles), no human structures….It is opposed by the entire Utah congressional delegation, the extreme majority of Utahans…so the environmental group (SUWA) goes across the country to find someone that will sponsor it….and outside of just being entirely unnecessary, the bill limits rural Americans access to jobs, and recreation….and they are the mercy of voters on the other side of the country who will most likely never see it, and whose lives will never be affected by it one way or the other. Why? To much federal power.
I hope that doesn't happen, the wilderness designation is mostly bullshit and should be used very very sparingly.

I'll say it a million times, it's easier to get the rules of public land changed in your favor than to make privately owned land public.
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freeh wrote:
Please provide one example of Trump "assaulting the constitution". Everything democrats feared from Trump, none of which ended up happening of course, was then enacted or...
Please provide one example of Trump "assaulting the constitution". Everything democrats feared from Trump, none of which ended up happening of course, was then enacted or conducted by biden. Democrat hypocrisy knows no bounds.
ns503 wrote:
Well, there was that time he rallied his supporters to storm the Capitol and stop the peaceful transfer of power. They were even trying to find...
Well, there was that time he rallied his supporters to storm the Capitol and stop the peaceful transfer of power. They were even trying to find the VP so they could hang him. 'Stop the steal' was the biggest rallying cry against the Constitution yet.
freeh wrote:
Damn, if only there could have been a formal proceeding to ultimately bring charges against someone who would do such a thing. Wait, there were proceedings...
Damn, if only there could have been a formal proceeding to ultimately bring charges against someone who would do such a thing. Wait, there were proceedings and nothing happened to Trump, because the proceedings actually vindicated him. Got anything else? Yeah, didn't think so. Try focusing on your own country's wannabe authoritarian for a change.
Proceedings are ongoing - how has he been vindicated? Even if he somehow was - what he did is so far removed from presidential behavior it's laughable.

Ya we have issues up here. But we're in between elections. All the excitement is down there right now. And yes our guy in charge needs fitted for a dunce cap. Well, maybe not. An oversized one would likely work pretty good too.
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