So....the Election....who's Team won?

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11/10/2022 8:33am
Falcon wrote:
It seems the Republicans have at least broken the Democratic stranglehold on congress, even if they did not experience the "red wave" everyone was talking about...
It seems the Republicans have at least broken the Democratic stranglehold on congress, even if they did not experience the "red wave" everyone was talking about. I like balance, so that to me is a good thing.

Now, maybe the only legislation that will pass are those laws which make a lot of sense to both parties. If that means zero new laws, so be it.
SoCalMX70 wrote:
Gridlock for 2 years with occasional fights over the debt ceiling. The less the government can do, the better.
Amen a thousand times to that! I'm right there with you...the more gridlock the better, all the federal government does is screw things up anyway...the less of that they are able to do the better.
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Falcon wrote:
It seems the Republicans have at least broken the Democratic stranglehold on congress, even if they did not experience the "red wave" everyone was talking about...
It seems the Republicans have at least broken the Democratic stranglehold on congress, even if they did not experience the "red wave" everyone was talking about. I like balance, so that to me is a good thing.

Now, maybe the only legislation that will pass are those laws which make a lot of sense to both parties. If that means zero new laws, so be it.
You're slipping, man.

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APLMAN99 wrote:
So what you’re saying is that if the Republican appointed SC majority would have just held off from exposing a basic tenet of the Republican platform...
So what you’re saying is that if the Republican appointed SC majority would have just held off from exposing a basic tenet of the Republican platform, then more people might have been fooled and could have voted Republican because they wouldn’t have been smacked in the face with their stance? Does that about sum it up?
Titan1 wrote:
Not at all, the SC made the right decision in handing that down to the states…it’s not about fooling anyone, the people that issue pissed off...
Not at all, the SC made the right decision in handing that down to the states…it’s not about fooling anyone, the people that issue pissed off wouldn’t vote republican no matter what…I’m saying that that issue slammed in the face of democrats motivated them to get out and vote. For some reason they feel the FEDERAL government upholding their right to kill a baby is more important than the economy or inflation or national debt or being respected on the international stage, etc etc etc….but talk about killing babies and they get really fired up…and those additional pissed of democrats showed up to vote. How many polls in blue and swing states showed abortion as a higher priority than anything else this year? A lot! And that is what made the difference…in my opinion.
APLMAN99 wrote:
I don't think that abortion is a high priority for most people. Having the right to control their own bodies is probably a high priority, though...
I don't think that abortion is a high priority for most people. Having the right to control their own bodies is probably a high priority, though.

And while I hate to derail a decent thread, the whole "killing babies" hyperbole is a complete farce. No rational person believes that an embryo is the same things as a 3 MO baby. It's fairly easy to demonstrate that, also.
Look at the polls...abortion was the highest concern among democrats. Whether you want to argue those polls weren't really about abortion and were REALLY about controlling their own bodies, that's a different discussion (though for most people, I'm sure it was specifically about abortion).

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/inflation-abortion-lead-…

"Democrats care most about abortion rights, while republicans are most concerned about inflation, according to the poll."



People are considered dead when their heart stops beating. So to stop even an embryo's heartbeat is killing it. But I don't want to derail the thread any further...my point is that the SC decision to turn abortion over to the states is a major contributing factor to the Republicans not gaining control of the Senate and not winning more seats in the house.
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That’s the terrifying part.
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Wrong. The terrifying part is if the elections are legit, that means the voting public likes the way things are going.
SoCalMX70 wrote:
No, they just don't like the celebrities, maga morons, and election deniers. The Reps need to do better, A LOT better. This was the EASIEST climate...
No, they just don't like the celebrities, maga morons, and election deniers. The Reps need to do better, A LOT better. This was the EASIEST climate for the GOP to score a huge win and they blew it massively.

Stop campaigning on abortion, for one. Look at Kentucky and Kansas... Let it go. Move on. I can't believe some candidates campaigned on banning abortion entirely, no exceptions. Yikes. Don't fuck with women.

Stop peddling conspiracy theories. Undermining the electoral process with claims of a stolen election is not liked. Sorry, it's true, the majority of folks don't buy into crazy fringe theories.

I'll vote for any intelligent candidate that campaigns on sound ideas and policy... As soon as the crazy rhetoric starts I'm out.
Thanks for validating my point. People pay too much attention to what these lying sacks of shit say and not enough to what they do. If you think things are better now than they were three or four years ago, you’re outta your mind.
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11/10/2022 9:27am
7I3N wrote:
Thanks for validating my point. People pay too much attention to what these lying sacks of shit say and not enough to what they do. If...
Thanks for validating my point. People pay too much attention to what these lying sacks of shit say and not enough to what they do. If you think things are better now than they were three or four years ago, you’re outta your mind.
The whole reason the Republicans didn't win is because people have been paying attention to what they've been doing for the past 6 years, see Titan's point.
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11/10/2022 9:38am
APLMAN99 wrote:
So what you’re saying is that if the Republican appointed SC majority would have just held off from exposing a basic tenet of the Republican platform...
So what you’re saying is that if the Republican appointed SC majority would have just held off from exposing a basic tenet of the Republican platform, then more people might have been fooled and could have voted Republican because they wouldn’t have been smacked in the face with their stance? Does that about sum it up?
Titan1 wrote:
Not at all, the SC made the right decision in handing that down to the states…it’s not about fooling anyone, the people that issue pissed off...
Not at all, the SC made the right decision in handing that down to the states…it’s not about fooling anyone, the people that issue pissed off wouldn’t vote republican no matter what…I’m saying that that issue slammed in the face of democrats motivated them to get out and vote. For some reason they feel the FEDERAL government upholding their right to kill a baby is more important than the economy or inflation or national debt or being respected on the international stage, etc etc etc….but talk about killing babies and they get really fired up…and those additional pissed of democrats showed up to vote. How many polls in blue and swing states showed abortion as a higher priority than anything else this year? A lot! And that is what made the difference…in my opinion.
APLMAN99 wrote:
I don't think that abortion is a high priority for most people. Having the right to control their own bodies is probably a high priority, though...
I don't think that abortion is a high priority for most people. Having the right to control their own bodies is probably a high priority, though.

And while I hate to derail a decent thread, the whole "killing babies" hyperbole is a complete farce. No rational person believes that an embryo is the same things as a 3 MO baby. It's fairly easy to demonstrate that, also.
extreme left wants abortion up until birth, extreme right wants no abortions at all... in reality, the majority of the country would probably be fine with the laws in Europe, which makes it illegal after 15 weeks. since we are run by the extremes on either side, the sensible thing will not happen.
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LungButter wrote:
I don't follow the news really. Fill me in fellas, who's Team won? Who is drinking champagne today celebrating the fact that they get to lead...
I don't follow the news really.

Fill me in fellas, who's Team won?

Who is drinking champagne today celebrating the fact that they get to lead the American people the direction they want without any care to get input from the actual real people who live here?
One of the most ridiculous and sad things I will read all day.

"I don't follow the news really."

Suggests you didn't vote.

"Fill me in fellas, who's Team won?"

Although I do love some team sports, the election is much more important that a "team" winning or losing and that kind of blasé attitude is how you lose a country.

"Who is drinking champagne today celebrating the fact that they get to lead the American people the direction they want without any care to get input from the actual real people who live here?"

You do realize you had a chance to be a part of it and give actual input, right?
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7I3N wrote:
Thanks for validating my point. People pay too much attention to what these lying sacks of shit say and not enough to what they do. If...
Thanks for validating my point. People pay too much attention to what these lying sacks of shit say and not enough to what they do. If you think things are better now than they were three or four years ago, you’re outta your mind.
early wrote:
The whole reason the Republicans didn't win is because people have been paying attention to what they've been doing for the past 6 years, see Titan's...
The whole reason the Republicans didn't win is because people have been paying attention to what they've been doing for the past 6 years, see Titan's point.
I’m not going to defend the GOP. They’ve been shooting themselves in the foot over the abortion issue for decades. People just want to be left alone to make their own decisions. But we’re two years into the most disastrous administration in US history. The fact that there’s was not a massive power shift to the other party is either evidence that the elections are compromised or that the public has their heads up their collective asses.
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Looks like Arizona is going to be hosed for awhile. Amazing how in 2022 we can't figure out how to count votes. What an embarrassment.
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11/10/2022 11:34am Edited Date/Time 11/10/2022 12:31pm
Falcon wrote:
It seems the Republicans have at least broken the Democratic stranglehold on congress, even if they did not experience the "red wave" everyone was talking about...
It seems the Republicans have at least broken the Democratic stranglehold on congress, even if they did not experience the "red wave" everyone was talking about. I like balance, so that to me is a good thing.

Now, maybe the only legislation that will pass are those laws which make a lot of sense to both parties. If that means zero new laws, so be it.
Hate to rain on your parade, but the House is still wide open and the Dems can keep their majority.

If you look at all the undecided races, the Dems lead in 28 of them. They currently have 191 confirmed, so 27 out of 28 would give them 218 which is the majority.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/11/08/us/elections/results-hou…®ion=NavBar

Democrats lead:

ME 1
NY 1
AK 1
CO 1
AZ 2
WA 2
OR 2
NV 3
CA 15

The runoff in GA will decide the Senate majority. Right now it is 48-48 with AZ and NV undecided. Kelly will most likely win AZ, Masto is behind in NV. So it is likely to be Dem controlled either 50-50 with the veep tiebreaker or 51-50.

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Titan1 wrote:
Not at all, the SC made the right decision in handing that down to the states…it’s not about fooling anyone, the people that issue pissed off...
Not at all, the SC made the right decision in handing that down to the states…it’s not about fooling anyone, the people that issue pissed off wouldn’t vote republican no matter what…I’m saying that that issue slammed in the face of democrats motivated them to get out and vote. For some reason they feel the FEDERAL government upholding their right to kill a baby is more important than the economy or inflation or national debt or being respected on the international stage, etc etc etc….but talk about killing babies and they get really fired up…and those additional pissed of democrats showed up to vote. How many polls in blue and swing states showed abortion as a higher priority than anything else this year? A lot! And that is what made the difference…in my opinion.
APLMAN99 wrote:
I don't think that abortion is a high priority for most people. Having the right to control their own bodies is probably a high priority, though...
I don't think that abortion is a high priority for most people. Having the right to control their own bodies is probably a high priority, though.

And while I hate to derail a decent thread, the whole "killing babies" hyperbole is a complete farce. No rational person believes that an embryo is the same things as a 3 MO baby. It's fairly easy to demonstrate that, also.
extreme left wants abortion up until birth, extreme right wants no abortions at all... in reality, the majority of the country would probably be fine with...
extreme left wants abortion up until birth, extreme right wants no abortions at all... in reality, the majority of the country would probably be fine with the laws in Europe, which makes it illegal after 15 weeks. since we are run by the extremes on either side, the sensible thing will not happen.
You and I rarely agree, but this is one of those times……

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11/10/2022 12:06pm Edited Date/Time 11/10/2022 12:07pm
7I3N wrote:
Thanks for validating my point. People pay too much attention to what these lying sacks of shit say and not enough to what they do. If...
Thanks for validating my point. People pay too much attention to what these lying sacks of shit say and not enough to what they do. If you think things are better now than they were three or four years ago, you’re outta your mind.
early wrote:
The whole reason the Republicans didn't win is because people have been paying attention to what they've been doing for the past 6 years, see Titan's...
The whole reason the Republicans didn't win is because people have been paying attention to what they've been doing for the past 6 years, see Titan's point.
7I3N wrote:
I’m not going to defend the GOP. They’ve been shooting themselves in the foot over the abortion issue for decades. People just want to be left...
I’m not going to defend the GOP. They’ve been shooting themselves in the foot over the abortion issue for decades. People just want to be left alone to make their own decisions. But we’re two years into the most disastrous administration in US history. The fact that there’s was not a massive power shift to the other party is either evidence that the elections are compromised or that the public has their heads up their collective asses.
100% of the blame is the GOP's shitty platform.

They need to back off on all the culture war bullshit. How about being fiscally conservative for once? How about a real solution to healthcare? What are they offering Gen Z and Millennials? Old guys can scoff at this, but the younger generations aren't voting Republican... And why should they? Even if the GOP platform had something to offer, what is it, besides calling them lazy and entitled? Maybe the GOP doesn't think they are worth it, but that is really shortsighted isn't it? Most of these folks arent religious either, so pumping christianity into every talking point loses them.

Don't get me twisted either... The Dems suck. Their policies suck. But, they have policies, new ideas, things that appeal to a wide base. Their messaging is better.

If the GOP doesn't pivot/revamp their platform, expect many more years of disappointment.
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Trump is a toxic brand the Repubs need a reboot. They come off as the party of old white men.
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Moto Nomad wrote:
Trump is a toxic brand the Repubs need a reboot. They come off as the party of old white men.
As opposed to senile and brain damaged white men?
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7I3N wrote:
Thanks for validating my point. People pay too much attention to what these lying sacks of shit say and not enough to what they do. If...
Thanks for validating my point. People pay too much attention to what these lying sacks of shit say and not enough to what they do. If you think things are better now than they were three or four years ago, you’re outta your mind.
early wrote:
The whole reason the Republicans didn't win is because people have been paying attention to what they've been doing for the past 6 years, see Titan's...
The whole reason the Republicans didn't win is because people have been paying attention to what they've been doing for the past 6 years, see Titan's point.
7I3N wrote:
I’m not going to defend the GOP. They’ve been shooting themselves in the foot over the abortion issue for decades. People just want to be left...
I’m not going to defend the GOP. They’ve been shooting themselves in the foot over the abortion issue for decades. People just want to be left alone to make their own decisions. But we’re two years into the most disastrous administration in US history. The fact that there’s was not a massive power shift to the other party is either evidence that the elections are compromised or that the public has their heads up their collective asses.
Or, enough to make it matter don't want to have anything to do with a party that has anything to do with Trump. That's why he lost in 2020, after all.
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The biggest difference is in the Gen Z vote. The younger generation doesn't like republicans one bit.
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Not sure where all of the red wave stuff came from. Republicans did very well in this election and the last one. Because they did so well in the last election, gains should have been expected to be tough. Fact is the country has a population divided among red/blue. Had the current administration not been a total fiasco, inflation, fuel, nuclear threat, crime drug overdoses, border BS, they would not have lost anything.

Spinning this into well we only got our azzes kicked a little.

It becomes harder to unseat, gain more seats the more you take away from the other party. Not sure the abortion issue is all that, but if you combine it with student loans, tales of threats to democracy, climate, racism etc, with well funded entrenched incumbents that is a big hill to climb.

Democrats have dug their own graves sort of speak with little to no opposition from Republicans who know if they leave them to their own devices or divisiveness they will do the job for them.


Bottom line is certain issues attract the population differently. End result is the republicans have the house most certainly and possibly will have the senate.

Let the Investigations begin. hahaha, bring your popcorn.
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11/10/2022 1:31pm Edited Date/Time 11/10/2022 4:15pm
bh84 wrote:
The biggest difference is in the Gen Z vote. The younger generation doesn't like republicans one bit.
Of course they don’t like them. Gen Z are a bunch of coddled dumbasses. None of them want to work hard to become doctors, engineers, plumbers, linemen or anything else that actually contributes to society. They all just want to be “influencers” and peddle shit… “buy my merch bro, don’t forget to like and subscribe.” Of course they’re gonna vote for the party that promises to give them free shit.
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early wrote:
The whole reason the Republicans didn't win is because people have been paying attention to what they've been doing for the past 6 years, see Titan's...
The whole reason the Republicans didn't win is because people have been paying attention to what they've been doing for the past 6 years, see Titan's point.
7I3N wrote:
I’m not going to defend the GOP. They’ve been shooting themselves in the foot over the abortion issue for decades. People just want to be left...
I’m not going to defend the GOP. They’ve been shooting themselves in the foot over the abortion issue for decades. People just want to be left alone to make their own decisions. But we’re two years into the most disastrous administration in US history. The fact that there’s was not a massive power shift to the other party is either evidence that the elections are compromised or that the public has their heads up their collective asses.
SoCalMX70 wrote:
100% of the blame is the GOP's shitty platform. They need to back off on all the culture war bullshit. How about being fiscally conservative for...
100% of the blame is the GOP's shitty platform.

They need to back off on all the culture war bullshit. How about being fiscally conservative for once? How about a real solution to healthcare? What are they offering Gen Z and Millennials? Old guys can scoff at this, but the younger generations aren't voting Republican... And why should they? Even if the GOP platform had something to offer, what is it, besides calling them lazy and entitled? Maybe the GOP doesn't think they are worth it, but that is really shortsighted isn't it? Most of these folks arent religious either, so pumping christianity into every talking point loses them.

Don't get me twisted either... The Dems suck. Their policies suck. But, they have policies, new ideas, things that appeal to a wide base. Their messaging is better.

If the GOP doesn't pivot/revamp their platform, expect many more years of disappointment.
"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." (jfk)

Not sure if that's taught in school anymore, but it couldn't be more appropriately applied than this post. Now picking through the rest of this post. The conservatives need to back off the culture war bullshit. Gee, being labeled and the common denominator of every issue has been so much more fun. Fiscally conservative? The interpretation is that conservatives are the ones not being conservative. That the dems currently passing trillion-dollar spending packages, one after another, is a better example of being conservative? Health Care aka. Obama-Care that also is a result of Republican efforts/policies?

As for Gen-Z Millennials turning away from Republican/ Conservative ideology, we get it. There's not too many out there that aren't looking for the next hand-out or exhibit any desire to put the effort into achieving success. "Followers" would be a better trademark for this generation. It's what they aspire to have, and probably what they'll end up being. It's understandable why you would think the democrats/Liberals have better policies, newer ideas, and things that appeal to the masses. Because it's paid for with someone else's money.
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11/10/2022 2:49pm
What sort of shit dirt does Don have on Ron??
This may turn out to be a very entertaining repub primary process, buckle up Ron, Donny's coming for you
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whats that great Clint Eastwood western where he paints the town red and burns it down?

Hi Plains drifter? i can see a similarity
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11/10/2022 2:56pm Edited Date/Time 11/10/2022 2:58pm
whyZ wrote:
"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." (jfk) Not sure if that's taught in school anymore...
"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." (jfk)

Not sure if that's taught in school anymore, but it couldn't be more appropriately applied than this post. Now picking through the rest of this post. The conservatives need to back off the culture war bullshit. Gee, being labeled and the common denominator of every issue has been so much more fun. Fiscally conservative? The interpretation is that conservatives are the ones not being conservative. That the dems currently passing trillion-dollar spending packages, one after another, is a better example of being conservative? Health Care aka. Obama-Care that also is a result of Republican efforts/policies?

As for Gen-Z Millennials turning away from Republican/ Conservative ideology, we get it. There's not too many out there that aren't looking for the next hand-out or exhibit any desire to put the effort into achieving success. "Followers" would be a better trademark for this generation. It's what they aspire to have, and probably what they'll end up being. It's understandable why you would think the democrats/Liberals have better policies, newer ideas, and things that appeal to the masses. Because it's paid for with someone else's money.
If "but the Dems" is your answer, you're completely missing the point and misinterpreting my post. I already know the dem policies suck. I said that, remember? I'm also not a liberal, or a democrat.

Generalization and dismissive attitude toward the younger generations will be the death of the current GOP.

Edit: Also just for shits, look up who's added more to the deficit over the last 50 years. Neither party is fiscally conservative.
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11/10/2022 3:48pm Edited Date/Time 11/10/2022 3:56pm
SEE ARE125 wrote:
Of course they don’t like them. Gen Z are a bunch of coddled dumbasses. None of them want to work hard to become doctors, engineers, plumbers...
Of course they don’t like them. Gen Z are a bunch of coddled dumbasses. None of them want to work hard to become doctors, engineers, plumbers, linemen or anything else that actually contributes to society. They all just want to be “influencers” and peddle shit… “buy my merch bro, don’t forget to like and subscribe.” Of course they’re gonna vote for the party that promises to give them free shit.
That's exactly the vibe I get from most left leaning friends that I have. I left most of them in California when we moved away. We didn't want our kids to grow up next to people who wanted the liberal lifestyle of, "Let me smoke marijuana, let me abort my kid, because I'm not responsible enough to realize how to prevent an unwanted pregnancy, and give me free stuff and $100k per year to work at 7-Eleven." And those kids don't even realize that 100K isn't shit when you're in a liberal Utopia like California. It all disappears so fast to pay for the socialism.

I follow AOC on Instagram mostly for the laughs. This question that she posed right after the election just gave me leftist cult vibes. She knows her key demographic. They are the people that would dedicate more time and energy to voting, because they think that it will produce better results than hard work and dedication to a career. Don't follow the American dream, dream about policy changes.


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Since I became an adult and most of Gen Z has been alive Republican Presidents have been in power during 9/11, the start of the Afghanistan war, the Iraq War (you'll never convince me there wasn't collusion between some in Republican leadership and the Saudis and their connections to use 9/11 as a premeditated act to go to war in Iraq), the financial meltdown of '08, Trump's tumultuous tenure, the Covid-19 pandemic and shutdown, J6 attacking my capital.

Why should I and Gen Z like these guys?

Edit: throw TARP and PPP in there too
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Falcon wrote:
It seems the Republicans have at least broken the Democratic stranglehold on congress, even if they did not experience the "red wave" everyone was talking about...
It seems the Republicans have at least broken the Democratic stranglehold on congress, even if they did not experience the "red wave" everyone was talking about. I like balance, so that to me is a good thing.

Now, maybe the only legislation that will pass are those laws which make a lot of sense to both parties. If that means zero new laws, so be it.
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D'oh! 😆
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early wrote:
The whole reason the Republicans didn't win is because people have been paying attention to what they've been doing for the past 6 years, see Titan's...
The whole reason the Republicans didn't win is because people have been paying attention to what they've been doing for the past 6 years, see Titan's point.
7I3N wrote:
I’m not going to defend the GOP. They’ve been shooting themselves in the foot over the abortion issue for decades. People just want to be left...
I’m not going to defend the GOP. They’ve been shooting themselves in the foot over the abortion issue for decades. People just want to be left alone to make their own decisions. But we’re two years into the most disastrous administration in US history. The fact that there’s was not a massive power shift to the other party is either evidence that the elections are compromised or that the public has their heads up their collective asses.
SoCalMX70 wrote:
100% of the blame is the GOP's shitty platform. They need to back off on all the culture war bullshit. How about being fiscally conservative for...
100% of the blame is the GOP's shitty platform.

They need to back off on all the culture war bullshit. How about being fiscally conservative for once? How about a real solution to healthcare? What are they offering Gen Z and Millennials? Old guys can scoff at this, but the younger generations aren't voting Republican... And why should they? Even if the GOP platform had something to offer, what is it, besides calling them lazy and entitled? Maybe the GOP doesn't think they are worth it, but that is really shortsighted isn't it? Most of these folks arent religious either, so pumping christianity into every talking point loses them.

Don't get me twisted either... The Dems suck. Their policies suck. But, they have policies, new ideas, things that appeal to a wide base. Their messaging is better.

If the GOP doesn't pivot/revamp their platform, expect many more years of disappointment.
Well, we can at least agree on one thing: The democrats and the republicans both suck.
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Maybe it starts at home.

Sure my kids played videos, and they got a phone at the appropriate age, but they learned that the only way to keep that cool stuff is to work for it.

They never felt entitled.
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Looks like Arizona is going to be hosed for awhile. Amazing how in 2022 we can't figure out how to count votes. What an embarrassment.
Democrat votes take longer to count.
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Looks like Arizona is going to be hosed for awhile. Amazing how in 2022 we can't figure out how to count votes. What an embarrassment.
SCR wrote:
Democrat votes take longer to count.
It's hard.
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Honestly, who cannot say they weren't/aren't ready for a change after the last few years with this poor excuse of a POTUS?
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