RBSR=Epic Fail!! Next time, ditch the announcers and the loud music, FFS!!!

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Edited Date/Time 10/18/2022 9:33am
Probably won’t be a popular opinion, but it needs to be said, imo.

WHAT IN THE HELL was Jeremy Malott thinking? He creates/promotes a race primarily centered on 2-strokes and the 2 stroke sound, then proceeds to drown it all out with a continuum of loud music and constant blabber from Kelly and Izer. Unbelievable!! Sitting in the bleachers, you had a mere 2 seconds to discern that audible sweet sound of the bikes as they passed. Beyond that, it was loud music and blabber from the announcers. Totally killed the vibe of the race!!! What a let down! Whoever the brainchild was who thought this was a good idea, should be fired!! Next time, turn the dayum music OFF during the races and turn down the announcers volume by 75%, or have them commentate only before the gate drops and when the race fininshes. Let the fans enjoy the racing and the sounds. Go to a concert if you want loud music!

As an aside, I attended this race in Pomona back in 18’. There was no loud music or announcers during the racing. Just the sweet sound of the bikes. Additionally, you were given access to the pits and riders. Was one of the coolest racing events I’ve ever attended and was the reason I decided on attending this year. Only this time, I brought my 2 sons and one of their friends. Between airfare and hotel, wasn’t a cheap weekend. If this years event is a precursor of future RBSR’s, I won’t be attending another.

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10/16/2022 7:20am Edited Date/Time 10/16/2022 7:21am
Shame about the lack of access and overly loud distractions at the event, I wouldn't know unfortunately but sounds like you've been to a few.

As far as watching the broadcast, it was pretty sweet, Weege and Blair are the dream team for sure, but I'd love for them to turn the volume up a little for the bikes... Though I guess if they have loud music and announcers while people are riding that's difficult and probably explains it.
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I wasnt there but can sympathize with what you experienced. I went to an Endurocross a couple years ago and the same thing there. Extremely loud music and screaming on the microphone. It was ridiculous. I had to literally yell at my son who sat next to me to communicate with him. Yeah get the fuck off my lawn, i get it, WTH?!
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We were there and agree completely. The event was well ran but the announcers sucked and the music had to go. The races were exciting but like OP said, we were there to hear the beautiful sound of 2 strokes. Huge turnout of people and many were probably fine hearing the speakers blurt out the terrible music and nonsense from the announcers.
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Have to make it cool for the fasthouse wearing kids brah
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RACERX69 wrote:
Probably won’t be a popular opinion, but it needs to be said, imo. WHAT IN THE HELL was Jeremy Malott thinking? He creates/promotes a race primarily...
Probably won’t be a popular opinion, but it needs to be said, imo.

WHAT IN THE HELL was Jeremy Malott thinking? He creates/promotes a race primarily centered on 2-strokes and the 2 stroke sound, then proceeds to drown it all out with a continuum of loud music and constant blabber from Kelly and Izer. Unbelievable!! Sitting in the bleachers, you had a mere 2 seconds to discern that audible sweet sound of the bikes as they passed. Beyond that, it was loud music and blabber from the announcers. Totally killed the vibe of the race!!! What a let down! Whoever the brainchild was who thought this was a good idea, should be fired!! Next time, turn the dayum music OFF during the races and turn down the announcers volume by 75%, or have them commentate only before the gate drops and when the race fininshes. Let the fans enjoy the racing and the sounds. Go to a concert if you want loud music!

As an aside, I attended this race in Pomona back in 18’. There was no loud music or announcers during the racing. Just the sweet sound of the bikes. Additionally, you were given access to the pits and riders. Was one of the coolest racing events I’ve ever attended and was the reason I decided on attending this year. Only this time, I brought my 2 sons and one of their friends. Between airfare and hotel, wasn’t a cheap weekend. If this years event is a precursor of future RBSR’s, I won’t be attending another.

I thought it was awesome and was also there as well as all the others. I would argue it wasn’t any different. At Pomona you weren’t as close to both the track and the speakers.

I thought is was great and had a great time. Was actually going to comment on how awesome the trackside announcing was from Kelly and Izer. They were dropping comical nuggets left and right and some times would tie the music in as well. I also though it was great that they were calling the shots all along the rhythm as when I was standing away from the monitor I knew what happened when the riders were out of my sight.

To each their own though, guess some will bitch that they got sand in their shoes while at the beach.

250 2 stokes are the best sounding motorcycle ever, KTM’s especially.

Rip away…
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I thought it was awesome and was also there as well as all the others. I would argue it wasn’t any different. At Pomona you weren’t...
I thought it was awesome and was also there as well as all the others. I would argue it wasn’t any different. At Pomona you weren’t as close to both the track and the speakers.

I thought is was great and had a great time. Was actually going to comment on how awesome the trackside announcing was from Kelly and Izer. They were dropping comical nuggets left and right and some times would tie the music in as well. I also though it was great that they were calling the shots all along the rhythm as when I was standing away from the monitor I knew what happened when the riders were out of my sight.

To each their own though, guess some will bitch that they got sand in their shoes while at the beach.

250 2 stokes are the best sounding motorcycle ever, KTM’s especially.

Rip away…
I have to disagree, brocster. This was from my vantage point in 18’. Note my proximity to the track and most importantly, all you hear in the video is the sound of the bikes. No music or announcing!!!

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brocster wrote:
I thought it was awesome and was also there as well as all the others. I would argue it wasn’t any different. At Pomona you weren’t...
I thought it was awesome and was also there as well as all the others. I would argue it wasn’t any different. At Pomona you weren’t as close to both the track and the speakers.

I thought is was great and had a great time. Was actually going to comment on how awesome the trackside announcing was from Kelly and Izer. They were dropping comical nuggets left and right and some times would tie the music in as well. I also though it was great that they were calling the shots all along the rhythm as when I was standing away from the monitor I knew what happened when the riders were out of my sight.

To each their own though, guess some will bitch that they got sand in their shoes while at the beach.

250 2 stokes are the best sounding motorcycle ever, KTM’s especially.

Rip away…
RACERX69 wrote:
I have to disagree, brocster. This was from my vantage point in 18’. Note my proximity to the track and most importantly, all you hear in...
I have to disagree, brocster. This was from my vantage point in 18’. Note my proximity to the track and most importantly, all you hear in the video is the sound of the bikes. No music or announcing!!!

Ok. Well I don’t recall no announcing but hey that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Hope you have better luck at other events with the boys. Curious? Did the boys have fun or did they feed off your mood?
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This is like going to the bars. I just want to drink in silence. Really grinds my gears.
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I was wondering why, thru the course of the day, not 1 time did the announcers acknowledge a start? Too busy flapping. JMO
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cmotodad wrote:
I was wondering why, thru the course of the day, not 1 time did the announcers acknowledge a start? Too busy flapping. JMO
Not a big fan of Kelly and Izer...they make watching Loretta's almost impossible...just constant rambling about nothing....hopefully they were better at RBSR...Thank god Kitchen's wasn't there....
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10/16/2022 10:38am Edited Date/Time 10/16/2022 10:40am
Op is right, I was in the first bleacher section. The thing that rbsr didn’t take into account when they were in Pomona.. was that the stadium/ half stadium creates acoustic feedback loop… so when the bikes would come up the sound is amplified and echoing… at the beach you have no such effect and can only hear the bikes for like a maximum 25ft… I could not hear the bikes at all out of the starting gate, they were so damn quiet.

I felt like the event in person was a bit lifeless from the fans, like my whole section had no idea who cooper Webb was… or hanny they barely knew barcia and didn’t cheer…. Also me personally I felt like the crowd was more baggers/flat track/ kinda fmx/ with kinda surf…. It didn’t feel like our moto crowd who goes to A1… but that is my own opinion of what I saw.


The event needs to improve, and be longer.. I’d like to see a legends bracket of racers.. and also a fmx bracket of racers.. along with the current supercross class bracket as well.

The announcers did a awful job of hyping the crowd up, for who was in the gate next.. I don’t know if they couldn’t see or what, but they didn’t mention the rider by name until they hit like the 2nd speed scrub wall.. it was like a delay from the start until they recognized they were going.
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I respect yours.

That said I’ll give mine. It would be very boring to me if it were just strictly bikes, and dead silence waiting on the next bikes to line up.
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10/16/2022 11:19am Edited Date/Time 10/16/2022 11:20am
I loved the event. Only thing I would have also wanted to see was a pit reporter like JT or Ping doing mini features on all of the sweet bikes in the pits.
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Op is right, I was in the first bleacher section. The thing that rbsr didn’t take into account when they were in Pomona.. was that the...
Op is right, I was in the first bleacher section. The thing that rbsr didn’t take into account when they were in Pomona.. was that the stadium/ half stadium creates acoustic feedback loop… so when the bikes would come up the sound is amplified and echoing… at the beach you have no such effect and can only hear the bikes for like a maximum 25ft… I could not hear the bikes at all out of the starting gate, they were so damn quiet.

I felt like the event in person was a bit lifeless from the fans, like my whole section had no idea who cooper Webb was… or hanny they barely knew barcia and didn’t cheer…. Also me personally I felt like the crowd was more baggers/flat track/ kinda fmx/ with kinda surf…. It didn’t feel like our moto crowd who goes to A1… but that is my own opinion of what I saw.


The event needs to improve, and be longer.. I’d like to see a legends bracket of racers.. and also a fmx bracket of racers.. along with the current supercross class bracket as well.

The announcers did a awful job of hyping the crowd up, for who was in the gate next.. I don’t know if they couldn’t see or what, but they didn’t mention the rider by name until they hit like the 2nd speed scrub wall.. it was like a delay from the start until they recognized they were going.
Completely agree with your assessment of the people in attendance. Definitely not your typical SoCal moto crowd. Literally had a bloody brawl break out right behind us. Looked like a couple of bagger/biker dudes.
Supposedly one of the guys disrespected the other guys girlfriend, or whatever in the eff it was. Nonetheless, it was a complete shit show for a few minutes. One of the guys was bloodied up pretty bad.
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RBSR is to moto, like non alcoholic beer is to beer.

Give me dark beer and 180° turns.
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Why complain so much?
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So go buy a 2 stroke, start it in your driveway and run tank after tank of gas through it if all you want to hear is 2 stroke sounds.

It was an epic day of great, close racing, and some of you still just want to bitch...
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RACERX69 wrote:
Probably won’t be a popular opinion, but it needs to be said, imo. WHAT IN THE HELL was Jeremy Malott thinking? He creates/promotes a race primarily...
Probably won’t be a popular opinion, but it needs to be said, imo.

WHAT IN THE HELL was Jeremy Malott thinking? He creates/promotes a race primarily centered on 2-strokes and the 2 stroke sound, then proceeds to drown it all out with a continuum of loud music and constant blabber from Kelly and Izer. Unbelievable!! Sitting in the bleachers, you had a mere 2 seconds to discern that audible sweet sound of the bikes as they passed. Beyond that, it was loud music and blabber from the announcers. Totally killed the vibe of the race!!! What a let down! Whoever the brainchild was who thought this was a good idea, should be fired!! Next time, turn the dayum music OFF during the races and turn down the announcers volume by 75%, or have them commentate only before the gate drops and when the race fininshes. Let the fans enjoy the racing and the sounds. Go to a concert if you want loud music!

As an aside, I attended this race in Pomona back in 18’. There was no loud music or announcers during the racing. Just the sweet sound of the bikes. Additionally, you were given access to the pits and riders. Was one of the coolest racing events I’ve ever attended and was the reason I decided on attending this year. Only this time, I brought my 2 sons and one of their friends. Between airfare and hotel, wasn’t a cheap weekend. If this years event is a precursor of future RBSR’s, I won’t be attending another.

Understand where your coming from but the event isn’t for the core fan. It’s for outsiders to get them interested and they don’t care about the sound.
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10/16/2022 5:36pm Edited Date/Time 10/16/2022 5:40pm
Why complain so much?
Complain, we just want to help to improve the event.

My take on the event with some good and bad.

Goods:
- Cool track layout. The big table top was pretty epic, would be cool to see two of those.



- Best shirt of the event.



- Plastic temporary walk ways. Made a lot easier then walking on beach sand.


- Bathroom set-up was not bad.

- The grandstand I was sitting in, this guy was working his ass off keeping people from standing in front of the first 3 rows. Red Bull did not pay this guy enough.




The Bad:

- WTF was up with the grandstand sitting? Blue arm band ($65.00) grandstand, red arm band ($45.00) down in the dirt. They just let everyone up in the grandstands. We had about
10 people in our area with red arm bands on, who were drunk, smoking and wanted to fight everyone. They failed major on ticket sells and security on who gets in what area.



- Announcing, simple, horrible or I should say HORRIBLE.


- Food/ food trucks was set up for 100 people, which there was over 15,000. Over an hour to get food. I watched people go get food and get back about hour and a half latter. Big fail

- Not much fan/rider interaction. Think AP was the only one to come over on the fan side.

- Felt sorry with moms with baby strollers and also wheelchairs. Watching Moms trying to push baby strollers through the beach sand looked tough. (They did have a handicap section).



I had fun but I think Red Bull failed overall, but I’m sure the money they made will make it to the bank.

How about this:
2023 Red Bull / Monster Straight Rhythm Shootout.

Red Bull against Monster.
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You guys are making me think I got lucky getting denied Laughing Here’s my pictures from the day. Parked on pch, got denied, rode to main st for chips salsa and pacificos, rode back and watched it on the big screen





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Some Hooligan/Harley, some Speedway/flat trackers, some surf, some sx/moto and the rest were just there to party and be involved in something else cool to do at the beach. Being seen in the moto scene is cool out here on the social media.

The longest lines of the day, all day, were for the food and Drinks/beer.

There was always a line or crowd around Ronnie Macs tent if that says anything about who attended and what they were there to see.

I don’t think many that were there actually cared about “who” was racing other than the few die hards. We were in the minority.

See you next year!
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RACERX69 wrote:
Completely agree with your assessment of the people in attendance. Definitely not your typical SoCal moto crowd. Literally had a bloody brawl break out right behind...
Completely agree with your assessment of the people in attendance. Definitely not your typical SoCal moto crowd. Literally had a bloody brawl break out right behind us. Looked like a couple of bagger/biker dudes.
Supposedly one of the guys disrespected the other guys girlfriend, or whatever in the eff it was. Nonetheless, it was a complete shit show for a few minutes. One of the guys was bloodied up pretty bad.
I don't know, it seems like fights are always breaking out every year at A1, too. Moto+beer=fights...sometimes.
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They seem to do that at any event these days. Last time we went to the NHRA at Pomona every time there was a break they cranked the loud music. You could not even talk to the person next to you.
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Next year they should have RBSR @ Santa Anita Race Track,
All around the perfect place

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sucks to hear about being at the venue...

I do want to note that as far as the sound went on the broadcast, it was Outstanding... why's that? Because not only could I clearly hear the smoker's engines screaming, i could also hear when they were bottoming out their suspension! which i've rarely heard on the TV feed... One of Hanny's runs was insane how many times, and how hard, he was bottoming out....
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RACERX69 wrote:
Probably won’t be a popular opinion, but it needs to be said, imo. WHAT IN THE HELL was Jeremy Malott thinking? He creates/promotes a race primarily...
Probably won’t be a popular opinion, but it needs to be said, imo.

WHAT IN THE HELL was Jeremy Malott thinking? He creates/promotes a race primarily centered on 2-strokes and the 2 stroke sound, then proceeds to drown it all out with a continuum of loud music and constant blabber from Kelly and Izer. Unbelievable!! Sitting in the bleachers, you had a mere 2 seconds to discern that audible sweet sound of the bikes as they passed. Beyond that, it was loud music and blabber from the announcers. Totally killed the vibe of the race!!! What a let down! Whoever the brainchild was who thought this was a good idea, should be fired!! Next time, turn the dayum music OFF during the races and turn down the announcers volume by 75%, or have them commentate only before the gate drops and when the race fininshes. Let the fans enjoy the racing and the sounds. Go to a concert if you want loud music!

As an aside, I attended this race in Pomona back in 18’. There was no loud music or announcers during the racing. Just the sweet sound of the bikes. Additionally, you were given access to the pits and riders. Was one of the coolest racing events I’ve ever attended and was the reason I decided on attending this year. Only this time, I brought my 2 sons and one of their friends. Between airfare and hotel, wasn’t a cheap weekend. If this years event is a precursor of future RBSR’s, I won’t be attending another.

brocster wrote:
I thought it was awesome and was also there as well as all the others. I would argue it wasn’t any different. At Pomona you weren’t...
I thought it was awesome and was also there as well as all the others. I would argue it wasn’t any different. At Pomona you weren’t as close to both the track and the speakers.

I thought is was great and had a great time. Was actually going to comment on how awesome the trackside announcing was from Kelly and Izer. They were dropping comical nuggets left and right and some times would tie the music in as well. I also though it was great that they were calling the shots all along the rhythm as when I was standing away from the monitor I knew what happened when the riders were out of my sight.

To each their own though, guess some will bitch that they got sand in their shoes while at the beach.

250 2 stokes are the best sounding motorcycle ever, KTM’s especially.

Rip away…
I was there as well and thought the DJ was a nice touch as he came up with fun mixes and kept things engaged in between races. Kevin Kelly is funny as hell and if you listen to his references they are great....like Morais was his competitors Dad etc, David is just there and adds little.

Regardless, I was in the last set of bleachers right in front of the whoops and could hear every sound as they ripped through the whoops with a party atmosphere in the background. Just right IMO other than the rain.
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Danny818 wrote:
Next year they should have RBSR @ Santa Anita Race Track, All around the perfect place [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/10/16/573360/s1200_A905CBAE_A274_4256_917D_7007B8F7AC39.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/10/16/573361/s1200_E91B3473_D058_48E1_924D_E45A00111A1D.jpg[/img]
Next year they should have RBSR @ Santa Anita Race Track,
All around the perfect place

My god i would love that... However i used to work there and i know the inner workings of major departments there... The horse racing community would have a got damn hissyfit, if they did that.
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If a horse track will work maybe the Del Mar fairgrounds would work. They had a flat track race one year so maybe ? It's close to the beach (so 30 degrees cooler then Pomona) and has parking, bleachers, concessions, bathrooms etc....
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