Another Matthes gem - Alessi

Tiki wrote:

Can someone sum up? This novel is way too long for me to read. Someone tell me there is comedy in this or give up the...

Can someone sum up? This novel is way too long for me to read. Someone tell me there is comedy in this or give up the cliff notes.

Man you would think 18 pages would be either race/culture/god related or new photos of next years bikes

Trip wrote:

Hey maybe they do know my name, I mean when I see them I don't say their names. ;) Last year at Anaheim, Jeff made it...

Hey maybe they do know my name, I mean when I see them I don't say their names. Last year at Anaheim, Jeff made it a point to come up to me and say hi first. Mike asked how the family was doing, so who knows??

Like I said I have been watching these kids for a long time. Night races at Glen didn't get that crowded.

I have pictures that Jeff took with my camera at a REM race a few years back. While his mechanic had his bike on the line, he was snapping pics. lol

ns503 wrote:

Uhhh, that one's a bit out there.

(englishmans, that is...)

englishman wrote:

Think about it. Son 1 ( Mike) is bought up to believe that he is the 2nd coming and the world revolves around him.Belief being I...

Think about it.

Son 1 ( Mike) is bought up to believe that he is the 2nd coming and the world revolves around him.Belief being I am the most important person in the world.

Son 2 ( Jeff ) is bought up to believe his function is to stand up for his brother when needed but to generally play 2nd fiddle to son 1. Belief is I'm not as worthy of a person as my brother.

Both sons however are bought up to believe that they cannot do anything without thier fathers say so, that they cannot think or act for themselves.

Public opinion of your father is he's a controlling A-hole who is wrecking your career.

Because of the conduct of the family both kids think that everybody dislikes them. Think back to when Mike turned pro I can't think of EVER hearing such broad based dislike & distain for a rider ever.

Now tell me that hasn't done some damage to those poor kids.

Trip wrote:

Englishman, I don't know if you have ever met the boys or not, from your post it doesn't sound like it. Mike is one of the...

Englishman, I don't know if you have ever met the boys or not, from your post it doesn't sound like it. Mike is one of the most down to earth riders there is. He isn't hiding in his motorhome at the races. He's out walking around, talking with fans, mugging for pics, and just be a 21 year old kid.

Jeff, is the same way and actually pretty funny. Sometimes making fun of himself. Kids that are raised to believe the world revolves around them do not act the way the Alessi boys do. As I have said, I have seen them give trophies away to kids, check on fallen riders on the track, and always talk to anyone who approaches. You are wrong in your opinion of them. Have you seen Jeff's girlfriend??? If he has a low self opinion of himself he is making up for it in the girls he hangs out with.

Seriously, you couldn't be more wrong in your opinion of them, but I guess if all you do is get info from a message board, I can see where your opinions come from.

AAA wrote:

ok so...sorry to have to keep this going but ..i am still stuck on something cost to go to the races .. air fair $500 hotel...

ok so...sorry to have to keep this going but ..i am still stuck on something

cost to go to the races ..

air fair $500
hotel $300
car $200
mlc $ 200

$1200.00 is the average cost to go to a sx/mx race ..most every week

and for 30 events a year that is over $30,000k in just cost !!! so why is matthes opinons worth 30k a year ?
why would any one pay so much for some ones opinions , i am starting to think this guy is really cashing in !

AAA

Titan wrote:

I'm posting for two reasons... 1): I just want to contribute before it gets dumbgeoned. 2): To provide a bit of perspective. That being to remind...

I'm posting for two reasons...

1): I just want to contribute before it gets dumbgeoned.

2): To provide a bit of perspective. That being to remind all parties involved (especially the Alessi's) that an extremely small percentage of the overall fan base of mx/sx and MIke/Jeff are following this thread. EXTREMELY SMALL! Like so small that in the grand scheme of things it is so insignificant that it just plain doesn't matter.

Of the almost 14,000 views, 98% of them are the same people viewing it over and over and over (I've clicked on the thread probably 30 times, just to stay up to date...and I KNOW, I'm not the only one). So don't go on thinking that 14,000 of your fans are following the thread...it's not true, its probably more like 1000 AT MOST...1000 of the millions of fans in the world. That means 99.9999% of the mx/sx fans in the world have no idea this is going on.

I point that out because you don't need to feel like your world is crashing down and EVERYONE is coming down on you, or doesn't like you. Because that isn't the case, not even a little bit. In fact if every single person that posts on this message board didn't like you, overall it still wouldn't negatively affect your image.

(Plus, I just don't think that many people read Matthes stuff on his website...everyone loves his "observations" pieces on racerX, but even I didn't know he had his own site until this thread)

I know that the because "you" ("me" or "I") follow/read the message boards, it's easy to get sucked into the "because I do , EVERYONE does" mentality. But it just isn't true.

Anyway, no worries...ignore this crap, and it will blow over before you know it. And even if you don't ignore it, you're autograph lines at the races will still be just as long as they would have been had it never happened.

THE MESSAGE BOARDS ARE INSIGNIFICANT IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS. Don't forget that.

Trip wrote:

[b]You are an idiot.[/b] Wow, great first post!!! [b]Matthes has worked in the industry longer then you have and has formed friendships with people that KNOW...

You are an idiot. Wow, great first post!!!

Matthes has worked in the industry longer then you have and has formed friendships with people that KNOW what the fuck is going on.
Does he REALLY know what's going on?? Sounds like he talked to everyone except the main players of the story. No quotes from any Alessi, or the Suzuki team manager. He made the statement that the Alessi's have burned the bridge at Honda, yet Honda gave Jeff a try out last year, hmmm?

You on the other hand speculate that Matthes is writting about stuff based on rumors.
Matthes said himself he heard rumors and whispers and decided to dig. Sounds like he dug just deep enough to get the facts he wanted to make his story good.

Did you ask the Alessi's if what Matthes said was untrue?
No, I do not personally know the Alessi's. I have met all of them a few times and I know they reconize me, but no, they don't know me by name. I would love to interview any of the Alessi's. I have been watching those two kids ride long before they went pro.

Yes Matthes does come down hard on certain riders but he will be the first person to congratulate them when they do well
He may do just that, the only two things I've ever read from him are, well this and his J-Law take.

Matthes knows a hell of a lot more then you will ever know about the Alessi situation and for the fact that you want Matthes to give up his sources is just stupid.
It's more of a question of, did the sources he talked to know he was going to write about what they said?? Eventually the people he is getting his info from, will be a part of the "opinion" piece he writes. His sources will soon run out.

No so shut the fuck up and stop trying to shit on Matthes for speaking his mind on a situation that everyone has wondered about for the last five years.
Maybe you don't understand the concept of a message board?? Is Matthes the only one to have an OPINION?? I didn't see that rule when I signed up here.

Maybe you shit on your friends when they ask you not to say anything to anyone but in a industry such as this that will get you no where
No, I don't shit on my friends or even people I barley know. DC and I had a 45 minute phone conversation one day. He said some things he has in works and I haven't even told friends about them. Not because he didn't tell me to, and really there was nothing Earth shattering, but I've remaind quiet. Matthes is a mole, he's that kid in high school who gossips about everyone, so he can fit in. There are lots of people who know things that go on behind the scenes, Matthes is the only one writing blogs about it. Perez Hilton is the same way, he has people tell him things, and then he writes about them. Both are entertaining writers, but not always 100% accurate. Matthes is the Perez Hilton of mx.

And the point comes up once again...How long has Matthes been at this? Long enough to know that he isnt writting bullshit, he writes what is known with out kicking anyone under the bus.
I don't know how long he has been at this. I guess he used to be a mechanic, for some reason that didn't work out, so he decided to write stories based on rumors and whispers.

And really? how would everyone in the industry know about shockgate if it DIDNT happen? Explain that one...Trip
I've said I don't know if 100% ture or not. I'm with Matthes on the thought where there is smoke, there is fire or at leastthe smoldering of a marshmellow. I have no clue what went on with it, or how it became so well known. I can venture a reasonable guess though. Here goes...Maybe his shock seal or a bushing was broken, he takes the shock to a place to have it re-done.(we all know pros cant work on a bike for shit) Someone at the shop tells a friend. Pretty soon the rumor becomes Mike had a shop tear apart his whole bike to see what it had in it. Just look at this board, someone says something as a rumor, by the time it makes it to the other boards it way bigger than when it was first reported.

I don't know all the facts, and your missing the whole point of the story. I just have questions about the validity of some of it. Questioning that if Tony Alessi wasn't around Mike would of been a champion by now was the main point. Mike races, and injuries are part of the gig. Mike has had two injuries the last two years that have taken him out of the running. Now if Tony had something to do with Mike crashing, I'm all ears and would love to hear how that all went down. To say Mike would be champ if Tony wasn't in his corner is laughable.

JP wrote:

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flarider wrote:

You guys realize you're being played, right?

AAA wrote:

trip

excellent comments , you have hit the bulls eye streight across the board !

please check your private messages

AAA

mototech713 wrote:

Here is the thing the media and the fans of the sport think Mike should change his program because he is not living up to the...

Here is the thing the media and the fans of the sport think Mike should change his program because he is not living up to the expectations that you guys have set for him. Sure Mike wants to win championships and pours his heart and soul into everything he does, why do you think he raced Colorado Mike knew he still had the championship in his grasp. Mike knew the risk but in the end the reward was so much grater. You all know it would have been a story of a life time if Mike would have been able to come back and win the championship.


But come on seriously, Villopoto was expected by the media and the fans to win the MX championship this year before he wrecked his knee so I guess he should change his entire program again because he did not meet his and your expectations. Some of you expected Reed to win the championship in SX so I guess he needs to change everything also.


All I am really saying is if Mike was still out there racing and wining every weekend this would have never been brought up and you know that is 100% the truth.

williamsmotowerx wrote:

I can't believe the comparison to Larrocco hasn't been brought up.

Tiki wrote:

Can someone sum up? This novel is way too long for me to read. Someone tell me there is comedy in this or give up the...

Can someone sum up? This novel is way too long for me to read. Someone tell me there is comedy in this or give up the cliff notes.

Man you would think 18 pages would be either race/culture/god related or new photos of next years bikes

Grendel wrote:

Certainly. Steve Matthes wrote a column that basically blamed Mike Alessi's dependence on his father, the man who raised and forged him into the racer he...

Certainly.


Steve Matthes wrote a column that basically blamed Mike Alessi's dependence on his father, the man who raised and forged him into the racer he is today, for his inability to win a championship.


Some agreed and others did not. Some believe the poster with the username "AAA" is actually Tony Alessi defending himself. Some thought it was hilarious and/or titillating to continuously post pictures of some over-airbrushed skeezer with the last name Alessi.


There is definitely some comedy to be found, but where exactly is entirely dependent on your sense of humor and perspective on the issue.

avidchimp wrote:

Dude, you are seriously my new favorite message board poster.

Grendel wrote:

I have a tendency to have that effect on people.

Grendel wrote:

I have a tendency to have that effect on people.

FastEddy wrote:

I still find it awfully weird that you have the same birthday as Ping...

Grendel wrote:

You might think that, but I couldn't possibly comment.

txmxer wrote:

doesn't Poto have 3 championships plus an SX regional?

So, you can delete your post and start over...