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It has brought the TOP guy from one of the most talked about family's in the sport to VitalMX.
I think the only thing that could possibly out do this one...is if Big James joined up.
The magazines, TV, press releases, PR stunts, etc (where ALL fans get their info from) very seldom EVER say anything negative about anyone...EVER. And as a result the fans that get their info about the sport from those sources (99.99999% of the fans) are going to have a FAR DIFFERENT opinion of riders than fans that follow the message boards.
The only place negativity gets fueled (and really blown out of proportion) is on the message boards. Since it is the only medium that offers the opportunity.
So, unlike general polling which takes a random sample of everyone; message board posters and their exposure to the negativity, rumor, speculation, accusations etc. that go on here, have been "tainted", and thus are not an accurate representation of the "average fan" that doesn't post on the message boards (and isn't exposed to the constant negativity, speculation, rumor, accusations, etc that goes on here). And so it is completely different than a "general poll". It would be like polling the democrats in congress to get their opinion of Bush, and then trying to say that is an accurate representation of the views of the American people.
I am the only person I ride with that posts/follows the message boards. The guys I ride with get their info from the TV (during races), and magazines. And they dont' have nearly the exaggerated opinions (good and bad) of the riders that I do because all they use to form their opinions of a rider is TV interviews and what the magazines write about them (almost all of which is positive or at least neutral). And that doesn't mean I'm more "well informed", it just means I'm follow a venue that tends to magnify and exaggerate the "negative" and "positive" sides of everyone (no matter how uneducated and baseless the opinions stated are).
Anyway...I'm not sure I'm explaining my point very well...but I hope you see where I'm going.
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This thread is EPIC and should be worthy of the evening news!
I notice how easy it is for these reporters to bash Tony for all these horrible things he has done, and that certainly makes for good reading. Thats the type of reporting that draws you in like moths to a porch light. But I do welcome Mathes to add in some of the other details he may know about the Alessi's, some of the good stuff
For instance.....many of the riders are allowed to practice at the Alessi tracks on both coasts as they travel. In some cases, its the only class facility they may have access to. Alessi Racing keeps the facilities prepped for thier guests, and at no cost.
For the last couple of years, Ashley F. has stayed at one of thier houses and practiced on their SX tracks to get ready for X games. Also at no cost.
In years past, they have helped out many young riders like Hamblin (when he was an amateur), when they had challenges getting support from thier own family members.
I am in no way saying that there record is clean as a whistle. But overall, they are a good hard working Christian family and have been very generous to others in the sport. And Jeff has never been rasied to be 2nd to anyone. He receives the same support from the family (and Alessi Racing). The two boys are very different and have different attitudes and approach the sport very differently. Thats what makes thier performance different. And they both have a different relation with thier father. But they are a lot closer as a family than you all think.
Well, I will admit the nasty stuff does make for good reading. So please keep it flowing. Just don't turn yourself into a tard because its easier to get sucked into the bad stuff. None of us are perfect. And if Mathes only wrote about the good stuff, none of you would show up to read it. I would probably pass that up myself for a juicy J-Law update.
You are an idiot. Matthes has worked in the industry longer then you have and has formed friendships with people that KNOW what the fuck is going on. You on the other hand speculate that Matthes is writting about stuff based on rumors. Did you ask the Alessi's if what Matthes said was untrue? No so shut the fuck up and stop trying to shit on Matthes for speaking his mind on a situation that everyone has wondered about for the last five years. Yes Matthes does come down hard on certain riders but he will be the first person to congratulate them when they do well. Matthes knows a hell of a lot more then you will ever know about the Alessi situation and for the fact that you want Matthes to give up his sources is just stupid. Maybe you shit on your friends when they ask you not to say anything to anyone but in a industry such as this that will get you no where. And the point comes up once again...How long has Matthes been at this? Long enough to know that he isnt writting bullshit, he writes what is known with out kicking anyone under the bus.
And really? how would everyone in the industry know about shockgate if it DIDNT happen? Explain that one...Trip
But do we have to call ourselves "drama queens"? Why not "out spoken motostuds" or something like that.
For example, when I read some hub bub about James not riding the outdoors, I'll then end up talking to all of my moto buddies about it and even the non-boarder types will then hear the controversy attached to the story. I'd imagine my behavior is pretty typical when it comes to shooting the shit about moto.
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It's one thing to "hear the controversy attached to the story", and another thing to be posting about it, and arguing about it, and defending it, and attacking it on a message board.
The act of posting about it, and defending it, and arguing about it entrenches and magnifies a specific point of view on a subject. So even though others hear about it, they don't have the same strong feelings about it as a message board poster would.
I know that even as an observer of the message boards (but not a poster)-like eight years ago-my opinios weren't as strong as when I started posting about things.
It's just different.
I've been saying that for a long time.
For all I/we know, you are a hired publicist or well written/spoken friend trying to right AAA's postings, whomever that is. AAA did more tarnishing than that article ever did for sure.
And before anyone asks.. I'm nobody.
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But don't worry, you're in that boat with good company...
Can someone put 18 pages of b.s. in a few lines?
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