The New Riding Style

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zehn 10/1/2022 5:02pm
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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
If I hit the rear brake does the back wheel go UP or the front wheel go DOWN??Whistling
I find it hard to believe that there was ever a debate about this
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Motoxdoc 10/1/2022 5:53pm
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SGoodman wrote:
It seems the "new riding style" is taking over... and while the new style doesn't look a lot different than normal, it sure makes a big...
It seems the "new riding style" is taking over... and while the new style doesn't look a lot different than normal, it sure makes a big difference in lap times and energy expended...

What is the new riding style? it isn't just one thing, it's a combination of many different factors-

1. riding on the balls of the feet, with toes angled slightly inwards
2. knees directly above ankles and firmly clamping bike
3. elbows always up
4. as Ryno says, unlocked hips
5. standing position as much as possible
6. Head up
7. riding a gear taller
8. rarely or never using the rear brake
9. using the front brake sparingly
10. Rarely or never using the clutch
11. using more sweeping lines to carry speed
12. feet on pegs nearly always
13. you guys can list several more i'm sure...

where as the old style you would come into a corner hot, slam on the brakes, then pound the gas at the apex, the "new" style is all about not upsetting the chassis and doing things in a smoother, yet faster, way..

the whole point of the "new riding style" is to get more raw traction/grip than the next guy (in both corners and straight line), while using less energy, while being more consistent, while also having the ability to go faster through rough sections than the old style...

IMO, Jett and Chase have been the best at implementing the various aspects of the new style into their style, and thusly are crushing others that aren't using it...

Anywhos... the "new" style needs a real name.. and I have no idea who did it, or came up with it first, as it is a combination of attributes that have long been used in MX, but never all together like Chase and Jett are doing..

Discuss-
Nothing on that list is exclusive to the “new era,” but whatever.

Your list brings up the question, how do you ride a motorcycle with your hips NOT unlocked? I’ve seen Ryno kind of try to explain it as arching the lumbar spine or tilting the pelvis, but it made me think that I’m not sure Ryno even knows what part of his anatomy his hips are.

With that being said I like wacky Ryno and his antics. I hope he heals up good from his latest accident and gets that neck brace off…or starts wearing one. I don’t care.
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OldPro277 10/1/2022 6:34pm
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Kaaden'sTheory wrote:
I’ll just leave this right here … [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/09/30/571436/s1200_15B8A10D_17BD_4F46_85D2_000D5645E30A.jpg[/img]
I’ll just leave this right here …
Brand new and revolutionary since 1974 !!
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TbonesPop 10/1/2022 7:18pm
10/1/2022 7:18pm
A good buddy and local pro once taught me that think about turning a dirt bike like a snow skier skis moguls. Upper body still and not over working in movement, but the hips and legs are pivoting and bending and absorbing thus controlling the motorcycle. Upper body just works the controls but is otherwise pretty still. That visualization always keeps me grounded. I find that when I ride the vet tracks, I'm really good at keeping form and technique. As soon as I hit up the nationals tracks, all goes to hell in a handbasket and its just survival to get around the track and do the obstacles. That's usually because I'm uncomfortable doing bigger jumps and the only way to get comfortable doing big jumps is to do big jumps. Once I'm comfortable doing the obstacles, my form is vastly better because I'm focusing on my form and not the oh shit of a big jump.
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moto12356999 10/2/2022 12:34am
10/2/2022 12:34am
You could list many past Europeans that rode with the “new style” Ramon, De reover, but Everts was so classy at it, he just looked like he was out for a Sunday green laning session while leading a GP.

He was the true technician of the sport & who riders like Jett & Chase model them selves on IMO.
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Tumic 10/2/2022 3:42am
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moto12356999 wrote:
You could list many past Europeans that rode with the “new style” Ramon, De reover, but Everts was so classy at it, he just looked like...
You could list many past Europeans that rode with the “new style” Ramon, De reover, but Everts was so classy at it, he just looked like he was out for a Sunday green laning session while leading a GP.

He was the true technician of the sport & who riders like Jett & Chase model them selves on IMO.
Yes and while some people here are trying to justify Tomac and RC’s wide open madness, you would think that both Tomac and RC would have been even faster with a better technique and smoother riding style.

Barcia is a perfect exempel of a rider that would benefit from a smoother style and a working transmission…
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Bultaco 10/2/2022 7:12am
10/2/2022 7:12am Edited Date/Time 10/2/2022 7:14am
If you started riding on a Maico or Bultaco… you did not use the clutch. To hard to pull the lever. You also learned to not use the brakes, as they were mostly a suggestion. Who knew we were learning a “new” way of riding 50 years ago. 🤫. BTW, Joel Robert showed Tripes and Evert how to do this.

I do know that watching the current guys race is amazing. So intense and fast. It is impressive. No matter what it’s called.
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Phil109 10/2/2022 7:24am
10/2/2022 7:24am
Tired this keeping your feet on the pegs stuff yesterday at the track. I don’t trust my shitty cornering enough for all that was the conclusion 😂
Dirtysmile56 10/2/2022 8:42am
10/2/2022 8:42am
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Gary Bailey been teaching that for years
I was thinking the same thing. David Bailey was pretty proficient at his Dads teaching as well.
Hamster 75 10/3/2022 3:03pm
10/3/2022 3:03pm
Bryan Wade multi time British MX champion was teaching all those techniques in the late 70s & 80s train with wade motocross schools in the UK
Think he`s mentioned in Rob Andres book
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Flatliner 10/3/2022 3:12pm
10/3/2022 3:12pm
see kevin windham washougal 2001 for an exact reference. Reynard Minneapolis 2000 heat race, the first few laps before he couldn't feel the bars.

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monkeybut417 10/3/2022 5:06pm
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moto12356999 wrote:
You could list many past Europeans that rode with the “new style” Ramon, De reover, but Everts was so classy at it, he just looked like...
You could list many past Europeans that rode with the “new style” Ramon, De reover, but Everts was so classy at it, he just looked like he was out for a Sunday green laning session while leading a GP.

He was the true technician of the sport & who riders like Jett & Chase model them selves on IMO.
Tumic wrote:
Yes and while some people here are trying to justify Tomac and RC’s wide open madness, you would think that both Tomac and RC would have...
Yes and while some people here are trying to justify Tomac and RC’s wide open madness, you would think that both Tomac and RC would have been even faster with a better technique and smoother riding style.

Barcia is a perfect exempel of a rider that would benefit from a smoother style and a working transmission…
Find a picture of Tomac having bad style or technique.
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WCRider 10/4/2022 11:59am
10/4/2022 11:59am Edited Date/Time 10/4/2022 12:18pm
Tomac no technique is the worst joke i've ever heard about the sport. Nothing new about riding style, Bailey was the new era. Everts has studying him a lot.

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