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moto162 9/22/2022 11:08am
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LoudLove wrote:
Protesters are literally calling this a human rights violation. Hello? They were flown to Martha’s F’ing Vineyard! Where do I sign up? Sure, it was a...
Protesters are literally calling this a human rights violation. Hello? They were flown to Martha’s F’ing Vineyard! Where do I sign up?

Sure, it was a political stunt, but sometimes you gotta expose a problem in dramatic ways. Besides, it’s not like we flew them to Fresno…
When the MSM is playing politics and covering for thier friends families and donors I mean the democrat party and you have fox that is slowly becoming more rino then ever you have to think outside the box. You have to do something to pull the blindfold off of the public eyes and show them what is really going on. You force the media and politicans to cover it as well as bring it to the light for people to see. That's what we're seeing now. Started with Trump, rember he said drain the swamp not the democrat swp not the republican swamp. As he's said many times the swamp is all actors going against the the betterment of America and its people. Now it's moving to the local politics.

I'm going to post a thread later that should drive this point home later when I head out to ride tonight.
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Jeremy A.K. 9/22/2022 11:09am
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I don't live in NY any longer.
Congrats ,Democrats are really turning it into a shit hole
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JN137 9/22/2022 12:03pm
9/22/2022 12:03pm
abomination wrote:
> Are you saying you are NOT for personal responsibility and freedom? Not at all. This statement is about the Republican party and not anything about...
> Are you saying you are NOT for personal responsibility and freedom?

Not at all. This statement is about the Republican party and not anything about myself. Do you disagree that a lot of Republican's messaging is focused around personal freedom?

> how does believing in these things translate to having a nation without laws, or protection for its citizens?

I didn't say 'without laws', I said 'far more open borders.' That's not mutually exclusive from laws or 'protection for its citizens.'

> You do realize that having an "open border" as you claim to want, would mean that basically any human on earth could enter? Drug dealers, human traffickers, terrorists, whoever.

Again, 'much more open' doesn't mean letting anyone in. Do you not think we have domestic drug dealers, human traffickers, and terrorists? Do you think the US is going to be the likely chosen destination for those people? Do you think they make up a large portion of migrants? Given your question, probably? Well I don't.

> Controlling the flow is what keeps the US a great place and prevents it from being overrun.

What does overrun mean here? I believe we squander a lot and have plenty to go around.
Ok, so where do you draw the line then? If "far more open" doesn't mean "open"?


- "Again, 'much more open' doesn't mean letting anyone in. Do you not think we have domestic drug dealers, human traffickers, and terrorists? Do you think the US is going to be the likely chosen destination for those people? Do you think they make up a large portion of migrants? Given your question, probably? Well I don't."

This is such a typical, and lazy response.

As for the first question here.. What is your point? How does acknowledging criminal activity in the US equate in any way at all to letting anybody enter the country at will? You're saying the fact that crimes are being committed by citizens means we should not also prevent them from happening by non-citizens? If this is not what you're saying, then why ask this question in the first place?

As for the second question.. Absolutely. Are you kidding?

As for the third.. Typical innuendo, that anyone against ILLEGAL immigration takes their position solely from a discriminatory view. Of course, the majority of immigrants do not fall under the categories listed above. Not a single person suggests that they do. Doesn't change the fact that those types do exist and will use the same form of entry if allowed. It's not that complicated.
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swordfish 9/22/2022 12:45pm
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abomination wrote:
> Are you saying you are NOT for personal responsibility and freedom? Not at all. This statement is about the Republican party and not anything about...
> Are you saying you are NOT for personal responsibility and freedom?

Not at all. This statement is about the Republican party and not anything about myself. Do you disagree that a lot of Republican's messaging is focused around personal freedom?

> how does believing in these things translate to having a nation without laws, or protection for its citizens?

I didn't say 'without laws', I said 'far more open borders.' That's not mutually exclusive from laws or 'protection for its citizens.'

> You do realize that having an "open border" as you claim to want, would mean that basically any human on earth could enter? Drug dealers, human traffickers, terrorists, whoever.

Again, 'much more open' doesn't mean letting anyone in. Do you not think we have domestic drug dealers, human traffickers, and terrorists? Do you think the US is going to be the likely chosen destination for those people? Do you think they make up a large portion of migrants? Given your question, probably? Well I don't.

> Controlling the flow is what keeps the US a great place and prevents it from being overrun.

What does overrun mean here? I believe we squander a lot and have plenty to go around.
swordfish wrote:
Tons of illegal border crossings into Canada. Many come from the US after crossing the border in Mexico. The RCMP wave them in at the Roxham...
Tons of illegal border crossings into Canada. Many come from the US after crossing the border in Mexico. The RCMP wave them in at the Roxham Road crossing in Ottawa. It’s easier for an illegal to cross than a CDN citizen😂
We’d get harassed about how much money we spent, Arrivecan app, vax status, test status and any other bullshit they can hold us up interrogating is.

http://www.bridgesnotborders.ca/crossing-at-roxham-road1.html
Chance1216 wrote:
That’s one hell of a trip to Canada if, they’re coming from the US after crossing the border into Mexico. 😂
Maybe you should read what I wrote again.
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Wildeye511 9/22/2022 1:12pm
9/22/2022 1:12pm
TeamGreen wrote:
Someone comes in here and goes “Full Dave” as he makes comments about the others having a lack of virtue, compassion and he oft uses passive-aggressive...
Someone comes in here and goes “Full Dave” as he makes comments about the others having a lack of virtue, compassion and he oft uses passive-aggressive linguistics to even imply…racism.

And, then he tells me that he doesn’t have time to respond to:

“…someone who doesn’t have the ability to comprehend, for sure.”
And it gets even better…
“Have a great time with your delusional assumptions.”

This coming from a guy that’s all too often telling us what we do or don’t “get” or “understand”.

Damn, the internet is priceless.

Its the same guy who said that he would be embarrassed if his sons acted like Trump. I then asked him how he would feel if his sons acted like Biden? Of course it was crickets after that, except for some other guy trying to help him out. Its funny how he likes to avoid questions that wont go in his favor.
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Chance1216 9/22/2022 1:16pm
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swordfish wrote:
Tons of illegal border crossings into Canada. Many come from the US after crossing the border in Mexico. The RCMP wave them in at the Roxham...
Tons of illegal border crossings into Canada. Many come from the US after crossing the border in Mexico. The RCMP wave them in at the Roxham Road crossing in Ottawa. It’s easier for an illegal to cross than a CDN citizen😂
We’d get harassed about how much money we spent, Arrivecan app, vax status, test status and any other bullshit they can hold us up interrogating is.

http://www.bridgesnotborders.ca/crossing-at-roxham-road1.html
Chance1216 wrote:
That’s one hell of a trip to Canada if, they’re coming from the US after crossing the border into Mexico. 😂
swordfish wrote:
Maybe you should read what I wrote again.
Maybe you should work on a sense of humor. It’s free.
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Titan1 9/22/2022 1:19pm
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All this illegal immigration has to make one wonder...if America is as bad as the left/progressive/democratic socialists/millennials seem to believe it is (crap health care, no maternity leave, expensive college, etc. etc. etc.)...why are so many people trying to come here illegally?
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swordfish 9/22/2022 1:22pm
9/22/2022 1:22pm
Chance1216 wrote:
That’s one hell of a trip to Canada if, they’re coming from the US after crossing the border into Mexico. 😂
swordfish wrote:
Maybe you should read what I wrote again.
Chance1216 wrote:
Maybe you should work on a sense of humor. It’s free.
Just because I didn’t post a reply with a laugh Emoji didn’t mean I didn’t get it Chance. I did have a chuckle, went back and made sure my post didn’t make me look like a complete idiot. I’m ok being a partial idiot.
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Chance1216 9/22/2022 1:25pm
9/22/2022 1:25pm
swordfish wrote:
Maybe you should read what I wrote again.
Chance1216 wrote:
Maybe you should work on a sense of humor. It’s free.
swordfish wrote:
Just because I didn’t post a reply with a laugh Emoji didn’t mean I didn’t get it Chance. I did have a chuckle, went back and...
Just because I didn’t post a reply with a laugh Emoji didn’t mean I didn’t get it Chance. I did have a chuckle, went back and made sure my post didn’t make me look like a complete idiot. I’m ok being a partial idiot.
Just smile and, wave,
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jchek779 9/22/2022 1:50pm
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R66 wrote:
Why is the Ukraine border so important that the US spends billions of dollars to secure it, but our border doesn’t matter?

Mic drop.
Team Biden can't launder money at the Texas border.
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Joey_Bridges 9/22/2022 2:06pm
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jchek779 wrote:
Team Biden can't launder money at the Texas border.
Exactly.
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moto162 9/22/2022 2:51pm
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R66 wrote:
Why is the Ukraine border so important that the US spends billions of dollars to secure it, but our border doesn’t matter?

Mic drop.
jchek779 wrote:
Team Biden can't launder money at the Texas border.
Belive me when I tell you they do. It's just not as profitable as the money they made off hunters dealings.
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TeamGreen 9/22/2022 3:07pm
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I wonder how many folks in here have ANY idea of how much money gets "wired back to Mexico" and other countries south of there...?

I wonder how many folks know about the co's specialize in this rather "specific service"...?

As money-laundering was brought up, it got me thinking about this.
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Zycki11 9/22/2022 4:05pm
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Illegal immigrants will 80% be in poverty in the US their entire lives. The difference is, a poverty person here still has a roof over their head generally. Those same people are what make the banks rich, who in turn make the wealthy richer. The more poverty the better in their eyes.
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MudPup545 wrote:
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tuggy450 9/23/2022 12:27pm
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R66 wrote:
Why is the Ukraine border so important that the US spends billions of dollars to secure it, but our border doesn’t matter?

Mic drop.
jchek779 wrote:
Team Biden can't launder money at the Texas border.
moto162 wrote:
Belive me when I tell you they do. It's just not as profitable as the money they made off hunters dealings.
More likely that Team Biden makes money from the border being open. Drugs pour in, get your cut, declare emergency spend billions on taking care of migrants, get your cut.
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avidchimp 9/24/2022 7:27pm
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jchek779 wrote:
Team Biden can't launder money at the Texas border.
moto162 wrote:
Belive me when I tell you they do. It's just not as profitable as the money they made off hunters dealings.
tuggy450 wrote:
More likely that Team Biden makes money from the border being open. Drugs pour in, get your cut, declare emergency spend billions on taking care of...
More likely that Team Biden makes money from the border being open. Drugs pour in, get your cut, declare emergency spend billions on taking care of migrants, get your cut.
They all get their cut of the profit. If you think all of this shit just happens in a vacuum, I have an ark to sell you. Once again, Ya'll just over here arguing back and forth all the while everyone's pocket is getting picked.
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tuggy450 9/27/2022 1:09pm
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Haha , about sums it up


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