AC9 on a Suzuki?

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wreckitrandy 5/4/2022 2:17pm
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Sandusky26 wrote:
Suzuki was first with Fuel Injection.
wreckitrandy wrote:
Negative.
Sandusky26 wrote:
First Jap bike, I’m not counting the piece of shit Connondale.
So, not the first bike but, the first non-pos bike to have fuel injection?
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wreckitrandy wrote:
I'm asking you.
You tell me....

It's been pretty broadly and publicly discussed that Suzuki copied much of the YZ250 and CR450. Ricky Carmichael (maybe you've heard of him?) talked about it most recently on Pulp Show #500, feel free to give it a listen.

Point me to similar discussions about Yamaha and Honda if you'd like....I'm all ears.
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wreckitrandy wrote:
Negative.
Sandusky26 wrote:
First Jap bike, I’m not counting the piece of shit Connondale.
wreckitrandy wrote:
So, not the first bike but, the first non-pos bike to have fuel injection?
Dude, just admit it. You were wrong, nobody counts anything outside of the 5 manufacturers. Even if you were to add TM you were wrong. No shame in it
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Whats AC done to deserve a Factory ride?
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decano51 wrote:
Whats AC done to deserve a Factory ride?
Face. Palm.

Let me guess, you think some Aussie that none of us have ever heard of deserves it more than him?
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I think AC is a great ambassador but he’s Mr. Glass. Unpopular opinion but it’s pretty true. He’ll be 26 next year, he’s got to start putting full seasons together. Too bad HEP didn’t get the Triumph deal.
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decano51 wrote:
Whats AC done to deserve a Factory ride?
Speed, title contender, 250 national championship...

I guess not much.
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Dirty Points 5/4/2022 3:37pm
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Conkey wrote:
I think AC is a great ambassador but he’s Mr. Glass. Unpopular opinion but it’s pretty true. He’ll be 26 next year, he’s got to start...
I think AC is a great ambassador but he’s Mr. Glass. Unpopular opinion but it’s pretty true. He’ll be 26 next year, he’s got to start putting full seasons together. Too bad HEP didn’t get the Triumph deal.
HEP team upon securing the big Triumph deal:




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midwestmoto 5/4/2022 3:39pm
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Richy wrote:
I usually think it's a little lame when people complain about the kick starter on the Suzi, but with how much he pushes the front and...
I usually think it's a little lame when people complain about the kick starter on the Suzi, but with how much he pushes the front and has to get up, that may be an issue...
kylemenz1 wrote:
Could a team add an electric start to a bike?
Good question, couldn't a team just add an electric start or is it not that simple?
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Dirty Points 5/4/2022 3:44pm
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Richy wrote:
I usually think it's a little lame when people complain about the kick starter on the Suzi, but with how much he pushes the front and...
I usually think it's a little lame when people complain about the kick starter on the Suzi, but with how much he pushes the front and has to get up, that may be an issue...
kylemenz1 wrote:
Could a team add an electric start to a bike?
midwestmoto wrote:
Good question, couldn't a team just add an electric start or is it not that simple?
Honda subtracted the e-start for Kenny.
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Sandusky26 wrote:
Suzuki was first with Fuel Injection.
wreckitrandy wrote:
Negative.
mattyhamz2 wrote:
What motocross bike had fuel injection before the RMZ450? Honda and Kawasaki were 2009 while Suzuki was 2008. Pretty sure Suzuki had one of the first...
What motocross bike had fuel injection before the RMZ450? Honda and Kawasaki were 2009 while Suzuki was 2008. Pretty sure Suzuki had one of the first quads with FI as well.
My 2001 Cannondale is fuel injected, electric start, intake on the frontside and hydraulic clutch. Now, don't go saying bad things about my Cannon, she sits real purdy on the stand and maintains order in the shed!
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mattyhamz2 5/4/2022 3:58pm
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wreckitrandy wrote:
Negative.
mattyhamz2 wrote:
What motocross bike had fuel injection before the RMZ450? Honda and Kawasaki were 2009 while Suzuki was 2008. Pretty sure Suzuki had one of the first...
What motocross bike had fuel injection before the RMZ450? Honda and Kawasaki were 2009 while Suzuki was 2008. Pretty sure Suzuki had one of the first quads with FI as well.
Hasletjoe wrote:
My 2001 Cannondale is fuel injected, electric start, intake on the frontside and hydraulic clutch. Now, don't go saying bad things about my Cannon, she sits...
My 2001 Cannondale is fuel injected, electric start, intake on the frontside and hydraulic clutch. Now, don't go saying bad things about my Cannon, she sits real purdy on the stand and maintains order in the shed!
I honestly forgot they even made a bike at any point Laughing
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Richy wrote:
I usually think it's a little lame when people complain about the kick starter on the Suzi, but with how much he pushes the front and...
I usually think it's a little lame when people complain about the kick starter on the Suzi, but with how much he pushes the front and has to get up, that may be an issue...
kylemenz1 wrote:
Could a team add an electric start to a bike?
midwestmoto wrote:
Good question, couldn't a team just add an electric start or is it not that simple?
Would that violate the production rule, since production RMs don't have e-start?
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kylemenz1 wrote:
Could a team add an electric start to a bike?
midwestmoto wrote:
Good question, couldn't a team just add an electric start or is it not that simple?
Sully wrote:
Would that violate the production rule, since production RMs don't have e-start?
Suzuki gunna back up the brinks truck baby
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I’d like to see coop on the zook
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kylemenz1 wrote:
Could a team add an electric start to a bike?
midwestmoto wrote:
Good question, couldn't a team just add an electric start or is it not that simple?
Sully wrote:
Would that violate the production rule, since production RMs don't have e-start?
No, production rule is for frames, model year, and cc mostly
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Langhammx 5/4/2022 4:34pm
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Bruce372 wrote:
Even more crazy, it's the same engine in 2022 just with mikini not keihin efi.

My 2009 rmz450 ran flat, loved the 2015.
I loved my ‘14 too, such a good bike.
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Isn't this the bike that Max Anstie's wife said was holding him back but now he is getting no better results on a different bike?
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decano51 wrote:
Whats AC done to deserve a Factory ride?
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Speed, title contender, 250 national championship...

I guess not much.
last time he was a title contender was 2020 outdoors. and to say his 250 national title is a reason.. just about the whole top 16 riders have won a 250 title.
every one says speed.. But he has only been able to complete 2 season since going pro.


With the amount of 250 riders moving up soon, AC9 needs a change of scenery and program.
hes been on a factory bike and same team since he went to a 65cc..

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decano51 wrote:
Whats AC done to deserve a Factory ride?
LungButter wrote:
Face. Palm.

Let me guess, you think some Aussie that none of us have ever heard of deserves it more than him?
Id say one of the many 250 riders who are or want to move up
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Just searched the web and looked outside. Still no flying pigs so…..
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Myke wrote:
Isn't this the bike that Max Anstie's wife said was holding him back but now he is getting no better results on a different bike?
Don’t bring that kinda logic in here 😅 also bogle is the same exact rider on a Suzuki
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Sandusky26 wrote:
First Jap bike, I’m not counting the piece of shit Connondale.
wreckitrandy wrote:
So, not the first bike but, the first non-pos bike to have fuel injection?
Zycki11 wrote:
Dude, just admit it. You were wrong, nobody counts anything outside of the 5 manufacturers. Even if you were to add TM you were wrong. No...
Dude, just admit it. You were wrong, nobody counts anything outside of the 5 manufacturers. Even if you were to add TM you were wrong. No shame in it
Aren't you kind to count KTM in the group that counts! The guy said Suzuki was first but obviously, by his own admission, they weren't. Refusing to acknowledge the historical facts, for whatever reason, doesn't make them untrue. Cannondale was the first production four stroke motocross bike with, an aluminum frame, electric start, separate oil for the gearbox / clutch and, crank / head, reversed cylinder head AND,,,, fuel injection. Some of those features have been or, currently are on, believe or not, Yamaha's and Honda's. Was the Cannondale a hunk of junk? Absolutely. I rode one and know. But,,,, it was an innovative hunk of junk.
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decano51 wrote:
Whats AC done to deserve a Factory ride?
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Speed, title contender, 250 national championship...

I guess not much.
decano51 wrote:
last time he was a title contender was 2020 outdoors. and to say his 250 national title is a reason.. just about the whole top 16...
last time he was a title contender was 2020 outdoors. and to say his 250 national title is a reason.. just about the whole top 16 riders have won a 250 title.
every one says speed.. But he has only been able to complete 2 season since going pro.


With the amount of 250 riders moving up soon, AC9 needs a change of scenery and program.
hes been on a factory bike and same team since he went to a 65cc..

Finished more than 2 seasons.



What has Malcolm Stewart done to deserve a factory ride?
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Bogle got a holeshot and led some laps on it. It's still a good bike.
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Speed, title contender, 250 national championship...

I guess not much.
decano51 wrote:
last time he was a title contender was 2020 outdoors. and to say his 250 national title is a reason.. just about the whole top 16...
last time he was a title contender was 2020 outdoors. and to say his 250 national title is a reason.. just about the whole top 16 riders have won a 250 title.
every one says speed.. But he has only been able to complete 2 season since going pro.


With the amount of 250 riders moving up soon, AC9 needs a change of scenery and program.
hes been on a factory bike and same team since he went to a 65cc..

-MAVERICK- wrote:
Finished more than 2 seasons. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/05/04/547936/s1200_Screenshot_20220504_202631_Chrome.jpg[/img] What has Malcolm Stewart done to deserve a factory ride? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/05/04/547937/s1200_Screenshot_20220504_202918_Chrome.jpg[/img]
Finished more than 2 seasons.



What has Malcolm Stewart done to deserve a factory ride?
Malcolm has 1 title like AC and finished the last 2 (3 including 22) 450 seasons in the top 10 unlike AC...
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decano51 wrote:
last time he was a title contender was 2020 outdoors. and to say his 250 national title is a reason.. just about the whole top 16...
last time he was a title contender was 2020 outdoors. and to say his 250 national title is a reason.. just about the whole top 16 riders have won a 250 title.
every one says speed.. But he has only been able to complete 2 season since going pro.


With the amount of 250 riders moving up soon, AC9 needs a change of scenery and program.
hes been on a factory bike and same team since he went to a 65cc..

-MAVERICK- wrote:
Finished more than 2 seasons. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/05/04/547936/s1200_Screenshot_20220504_202631_Chrome.jpg[/img] What has Malcolm Stewart done to deserve a factory ride? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/05/04/547937/s1200_Screenshot_20220504_202918_Chrome.jpg[/img]
Finished more than 2 seasons.



What has Malcolm Stewart done to deserve a factory ride?
decano51 wrote:
Malcolm has 1 title like AC and finished the last 2 (3 including 22) 450 seasons in the top 10 unlike AC...
And only one of them is a national champion.
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