The Ukraine is in a tight spot

3/13/2022 10:59am
I don't believe for a second that any African soldier is going to go die in the cold weather fighting a war for Russians. This history...
I don't believe for a second that any African soldier is going to go die in the cold weather fighting a war for Russians. This history seems completely fabricated.
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Quite right you are Sir....
plowboy wrote:
Well, as long as winter holds and Putin doesn't start something somewhere warm...Huh
Africans are terrible soldiers with some exceptions.

A good soldier have a deep patriotic feeling for his country and attachement to it roots. As almost all African countries are a product of colonial ressource sharing from European countries the countries that become independent after 1960 are always a mismatch of different ethnic groups with very little sense of unity. Therefore to fight and die for their country is not really a thing they could understand, let alone fight for another country. Besides Russians never had any colonies in Africa so there is zero connection with them, the only one who seem to have a connection are the corrupt leaders that plunder the continent. And now I stop an we go back to Ukraine.
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I think Ukraine has garnered a lot of public support with its stance of Stay and Fight
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flarider wrote:
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Hey, Dave, is it just me OR are you “Single Issue Trolling” the Omnibus Bill?

If so, you might need a new thread for the intellectually argumentative discussion that this is gonna require.
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flarider wrote:
Are you saying there are no nazi's?
I don't believe their Nazi problem is any greater than in the rest of the world or particularly worse than their neighbours. The separatists have Neo-Nazis...
I don't believe their Nazi problem is any greater than in the rest of the world or particularly worse than their neighbours. The separatists have Neo-Nazis fighting with them, Russia itself has issues with Neo-Nazis and you can guarantee that they exist within the Russian military. If having some Nazis is a reason for having your country invaded then Russian tanks should be parked outside Buckingham Palace and the White House.

Its pretty obvious that it's propaganda by the Russians to link this bullshit to the great patriotic war, the destruction of Nazi Germany is one of the few mortally righteous things they ever did (barring the awful occupation of Eastern Europe afterwards). Afterall, who could argue that destroying a genuinely Nazi state is wrong?
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Destroying a Nazi state wasn’t wrong but, what many of the Russian soldiers did to the “actual civilians”especially the women were war crimes.
That part usually gets left out of history books because nazi and fascist are catchy buzzwords nowadays.

People seem to forget that communism as a whole always has lead to and always will lead to a higher body count in terms of innocent collateral and war crimes.
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3/13/2022 1:00pm
Yeti831 wrote:
That part usually gets left out of history books because nazi and fascist are catchy buzzwords nowadays. People seem to forget that communism as a whole...
That part usually gets left out of history books because nazi and fascist are catchy buzzwords nowadays.

People seem to forget that communism as a whole always has lead to and always will lead to a higher body count in terms of innocent collateral and war crimes.
I won't disagree but let's not forget that EVERY country you can name has done the dirty to their own populace and other countries. Every war or conflict is about power and money. Too bad that regular people are the tools used for their purposes.
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Don't know how dependent Finland is on Russian gas, but good timing :) Yee-Haw!🤠🐂 #Europe's largest #Nuclear reactor has now come online in #Finland as...
Don't know how dependent Finland is on Russian gas, but good timing Smile

ohh yeah Finland buys 95% of its oil from russia and alot of other things, its going to be expensive to live here soon
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3/13/2022 1:03pm Edited Date/Time 3/13/2022 1:03pm
A real war correspondent. Too much bs and lies going on in this war for me to get behind one liar over another.

Are Luhansk and Donetsk independent?
Both Donetsk People's Republic and Luhansk People's Republic have simultaneously declared independence and were previously united under the Novorossiya confederation from 2014 to 2015. What happened next? If you don't know the answer well, maybe you shouldn't jump to conclusions or talk about alleged genocide by the other side.

Things are very complicated and you are being told a story based on the guys with the better public relations firm.

In any event, I doubt this war truly benefits average joe Ukrainian, or average Joe Russian. It certainly doesn't benefit average Joe American. Therefore I am out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-v9jB1eyaE
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War in Ukraine: Russian forces accused of abducting second mayor https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60725962


Yevhen Matveyev was seized in the southern town of Dniprorudne, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba tweeted, accusing Russia of "terror" tactics.

Earlier, Russia installed a new mayor in Melitopol, after allegedly abducting the city's previous incumbent.

Ukraine's president also accused Russia of trying to create "pseudo-republics" to break his country apart.

In her first public appearance, Melitopol's newly installed mayor Galina Danilchenko urged residents not to take part in "extremist actions" and declared her main task was construction of "basic mechanisms under the new reality".
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/brent-renaud-obit-ukraine-1.6383537



Brent Renaud, an acclaimed filmmaker who travelled to some of the darkest and most dangerous corners of the world for documentaries that transported audiences to little-known places of suffering, died Sunday after Russian forces opened fire on his vehicle in Ukraine.

The 50-year-old Little Rock, Ark., native was gathering material for a report about refugees when his vehicle was hit at a checkpoint in Irpin, just outside the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv. Ukraine's Interior Ministry said the area has sustained intense shelling by Russian forces in recent days.

Renaud was one of the most respected independent producers of his era, said Christof Putzel, a filmmaker and close friend who had received a text from Renaud just three days before his death. Renaud and Putzel won a 2013 Alfred I. duPont-Columbia University journalism award for Arming the Mexican Cartels, a documentary on how guns trafficked from the United States fuelled rampant drug gang violence.
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Fourth round of talks tomorrow. Both sides are optimistic and say they made a huge progress. Alegedly they've been talking via videoconference this whole week.
Me personally don't believe it anymore...
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kongols wrote:
Fourth round of talks tomorrow. Both sides are optimistic and say they made a huge progress. Alegedly they've been talking via videoconference this whole week. Me...
Fourth round of talks tomorrow. Both sides are optimistic and say they made a huge progress. Alegedly they've been talking via videoconference this whole week.
Me personally don't believe it anymore...
Well, believe this brother....if you can keep your ass alive...things will get better. You may decide to move someplace else or whatever but you will be ok. Believe in tomorrow or today doesn't matter.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/13/russian-orthodox-church-i…


A Russian Orthodox church in Amsterdam has announced it is to split with the Moscow patriarchate, in the first known instance of a western-based church cutting ties over the invasion of Ukraine.

“The clergy unanimously announced that it is no longer possible for them to function within the Moscow patriarchate and provide a spiritually safe environment for our faithful,” the clergy said in a statement posted on its website. “This decision is extremely painful and difficult for all concerned.”

The head of the Russian Orthodox church, Patriarch Kirill, a trusted ally of Vladimir Putin, has declined to condemn the Kremlin’s decision to invade its neighbour, referring to Russia’s opponents in Ukraine as “evil forces”.
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Russian Jesus just took his shirt off
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lestat wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/13/russian-orthodox-church-in-amsterdam-announces-split-with-moscow?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other [i] A Russian Orthodox church in Amsterdam has announced it is to split with the Moscow patriarchate, in the first known instance of a western-based...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/13/russian-orthodox-church-i…


A Russian Orthodox church in Amsterdam has announced it is to split with the Moscow patriarchate, in the first known instance of a western-based church cutting ties over the invasion of Ukraine.

“The clergy unanimously announced that it is no longer possible for them to function within the Moscow patriarchate and provide a spiritually safe environment for our faithful,” the clergy said in a statement posted on its website. “This decision is extremely painful and difficult for all concerned.”

The head of the Russian Orthodox church, Patriarch Kirill, a trusted ally of Vladimir Putin, has declined to condemn the Kremlin’s decision to invade its neighbour, referring to Russia’s opponents in Ukraine as “evil forces”.
A Sovereign Nation in its own right who’s citizens Vlad and his minions are KILLING…AGAIN…MURDERING women and children…

And the “church” boss says…what…again?
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3/13/2022 9:58pm
You can count on Vice to get into the front lines. Seen many of their videos and they go to some of the most dangerous places in the world where the people they are dealing with kill you without any care.
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lestat wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/13/russian-orthodox-church-in-amsterdam-announces-split-with-moscow?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other [i] A Russian Orthodox church in Amsterdam has announced it is to split with the Moscow patriarchate, in the first known instance of a western-based...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/13/russian-orthodox-church-i…


A Russian Orthodox church in Amsterdam has announced it is to split with the Moscow patriarchate, in the first known instance of a western-based church cutting ties over the invasion of Ukraine.

“The clergy unanimously announced that it is no longer possible for them to function within the Moscow patriarchate and provide a spiritually safe environment for our faithful,” the clergy said in a statement posted on its website. “This decision is extremely painful and difficult for all concerned.”

The head of the Russian Orthodox church, Patriarch Kirill, a trusted ally of Vladimir Putin, has declined to condemn the Kremlin’s decision to invade its neighbour, referring to Russia’s opponents in Ukraine as “evil forces”.
TeamGreen wrote:
A Sovereign Nation in its own right who’s citizens Vlad and his minions are KILLING…AGAIN…MURDERING women and children…

And the “church” boss says…what…again?
He doesn't want to loose privileged job, power and life. This is common in many religious positions
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The President of Israel asks Zelensky to accept Russia's demands and destroy the Statue of Stepan Bandera.
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People here are supporting Putin

I've seen it all
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tuggy450 wrote:
Some things the US media conveniently forgets to tell you about.
@ 2 minutes in. National Socialists AKA Nazi's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SBo0akeDMY
I thought you can't trust the MSM?
You forgot the last part that’s said under one’s breath.

“….unless they say what I want to hear!”
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