Sexton shouldn’t be allowed to race Arlington

Joey_Bridges wrote:

The old carlsbad raceway used to have steel poles holding up actual chain link fence along the downhill. Once saw Staten crash, take out two poles...

The old carlsbad raceway used to have steel poles holding up actual chain link fence along the downhill.

Once saw Staten crash, take out two poles and the fencing.
Started the next moto.

Magoofan wrote:

Chuch Norris cooks and cleans for Rex Staten.

zachsmotoing wrote:

After that hit and seeing him struggle to move afterwards he obviously had a injury to his brain . I felt like I was watching a...

After that hit and seeing him struggle to move afterwards he obviously had a injury to his brain . I felt like I was watching a UFC fighter after getting tkoed. Seeing his post I think he is gonna race but I feel like someone shouldn’t allow him weather that’s the team or the series idk…

Joey_Bridges wrote:

The old carlsbad raceway used to have steel poles holding up actual chain link fence along the downhill. Once saw Staten crash, take out two poles...

The old carlsbad raceway used to have steel poles holding up actual chain link fence along the downhill.

Once saw Staten crash, take out two poles and the fencing.
Started the next moto.

Magoofan wrote:

Chuch Norris cooks and cleans for Rex Staten.

Joey_Bridges wrote:

The first butt patch I remember seeing on leathers, yes boys and girls, leathers.
Was "sexy rexy".
Early 70's

sandtrack315 wrote:

Lots of armchair neuroscientists and neurologists on vital, but no one here knows he has a concussion. 1. If you watch the crash, his head does...

Lots of armchair neuroscientists and neurologists on vital, but no one here knows he has a concussion.

1. If you watch the crash, his head does make it over the take off, and he rolls pretty well, so no sudden stop. It's not obvious that he had a lot of force applied to his skull.

2. Yeah, he was flustered after the crash, but the guy was panicking that he was going from winning to last place, his heart rate was just at 180 for 20 minutes. This is expected.

If it's me, I take an extra week off. I am not in the championship, and it's just one race. However, I get why, having passed all the tests and feeling great on the bike, he'd want to race.

We really need accelerometers on the helmets. We could study which helmets work the best, and we'd be able to give this information to neurologists to make more informed decisions about how must rest the rider needs after a hit.

zachsmotoing wrote:

This is the first good comment opposing my position and I’d say I agree with u on some of that the only place I might differ...

This is the first good comment opposing my position and I’d say I agree with u on some of that the only place I might differ is the “fluttering” I’d say he looked more wobbly/couldn’t control his body. Definitely need more research on head injuries in the sport though and a more clear line on what constitutes a concussion and a return to racing from the series in my non professional doctor opinion respectfully lol

DonM wrote:

Are you his Dr?…better yet are you a Dr? Or is this just your opinion you decided from your recliner….

zachsmotoing wrote:

I’m not a doctor didn’t know I had to be one to be able to say his brain was rattled in that crash . He’s a...

I’m not a doctor didn’t know I had to be one to be able to say his brain was rattled in that crash . He’s a adult and can make his own choices . My question is as fans why don’t we want him to rest so he could recover and prolong his career I want to see him racing 10 years from now still at a high level in 10 years no one will care If he missed 2-3 races when he was already out of a championship. Your logic is so snowflaky it’s like saying “are u a actor??? Then don’t tell me that was a bad movie”

DonM wrote:

It’s his Dr’s decision to make, he’s the one doing the testing on Chase and is qualified to do so…you have zero info other than what...

It’s his Dr’s decision to make, he’s the one doing the testing on Chase and is qualified to do so…you have zero info other than what you saw on TV and I’m guessing you are not a Dr and therefore not qualified to make a final determination on Chase’s health or condition…I’m amused by the number of armchair doctors on here that think they are qualified to make a medical determination on what’s best for riders…

zachsmotoing wrote:

I’m not a doctor didn’t know I had to be one to be able to say his brain was rattled in that crash . He’s a...

I’m not a doctor didn’t know I had to be one to be able to say his brain was rattled in that crash . He’s a adult and can make his own choices . My question is as fans why don’t we want him to rest so he could recover and prolong his career I want to see him racing 10 years from now still at a high level in 10 years no one will care If he missed 2-3 races when he was already out of a championship. Your logic is so snowflaky it’s like saying “are u a actor??? Then don’t tell me that was a bad movie”

DonM wrote:

It’s his Dr’s decision to make, he’s the one doing the testing on Chase and is qualified to do so…you have zero info other than what...

It’s his Dr’s decision to make, he’s the one doing the testing on Chase and is qualified to do so…you have zero info other than what you saw on TV and I’m guessing you are not a Dr and therefore not qualified to make a final determination on Chase’s health or condition…I’m amused by the number of armchair doctors on here that think they are qualified to make a medical determination on what’s best for riders…

cr12500 wrote:

What a stupid take, Don. We've seen years of sports teams shoving their athletes out there while hurt to get hurt even worse. How many stories...

What a stupid take, Don. We've seen years of sports teams shoving their athletes out there while hurt to get hurt even worse. How many stories of CTEs leading to violence have we heard about in the NFL? How many motocrossers have had their careers cut short from injuries and suffered long-term effects or drug issues due to ignoring? None of us are doctors but it doesn't take much to see when someone has had their bell rung. He's probably under a lot of pressure from himself and others to bounce back after throwing away a win like that. No one wants to see someone do permanent damage to themselves over a couple of races that won't salvage his championship hopes anyway. Don't be naive.

DonM wrote:

It’s his Dr’s decision to make, he’s the one doing the testing on Chase and is qualified to do so…you have zero info other than what...

It’s his Dr’s decision to make, he’s the one doing the testing on Chase and is qualified to do so…you have zero info other than what you saw on TV and I’m guessing you are not a Dr and therefore not qualified to make a final determination on Chase’s health or condition…I’m amused by the number of armchair doctors on here that think they are qualified to make a medical determination on what’s best for riders…

cr12500 wrote:

What a stupid take, Don. We've seen years of sports teams shoving their athletes out there while hurt to get hurt even worse. How many stories...

What a stupid take, Don. We've seen years of sports teams shoving their athletes out there while hurt to get hurt even worse. How many stories of CTEs leading to violence have we heard about in the NFL? How many motocrossers have had their careers cut short from injuries and suffered long-term effects or drug issues due to ignoring? None of us are doctors but it doesn't take much to see when someone has had their bell rung. He's probably under a lot of pressure from himself and others to bounce back after throwing away a win like that. No one wants to see someone do permanent damage to themselves over a couple of races that won't salvage his championship hopes anyway. Don't be naive.

DonM wrote:

You’re misunderstanding my position…I’m not saying that he should be allowed to race or not, what I’m saying is that the professional doctors are more qualified...

You’re misunderstanding my position…I’m not saying that he should be allowed to race or not, what I’m saying is that the professional doctors are more qualified to make that decision and have an opinion than a group of people on a message board who may or may not have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night…the naive ones art the people that think they are qualified because they saw it on TV…The Dr’s that will make the call do not have a vested interest on whether he races or not, only in what’s best for his health…

cr12500 wrote:

What a stupid take, Don. We've seen years of sports teams shoving their athletes out there while hurt to get hurt even worse. How many stories...

What a stupid take, Don. We've seen years of sports teams shoving their athletes out there while hurt to get hurt even worse. How many stories of CTEs leading to violence have we heard about in the NFL? How many motocrossers have had their careers cut short from injuries and suffered long-term effects or drug issues due to ignoring? None of us are doctors but it doesn't take much to see when someone has had their bell rung. He's probably under a lot of pressure from himself and others to bounce back after throwing away a win like that. No one wants to see someone do permanent damage to themselves over a couple of races that won't salvage his championship hopes anyway. Don't be naive.

DonM wrote:

You’re misunderstanding my position…I’m not saying that he should be allowed to race or not, what I’m saying is that the professional doctors are more qualified...

You’re misunderstanding my position…I’m not saying that he should be allowed to race or not, what I’m saying is that the professional doctors are more qualified to make that decision and have an opinion than a group of people on a message board who may or may not have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night…the naive ones art the people that think they are qualified because they saw it on TV…The Dr’s that will make the call do not have a vested interest on whether he races or not, only in what’s best for his health…

cr12500 wrote:

They don't have a vested interest? Who pays the doctors? Every NFL player had a doctor too that either let them go back out or were...

They don't have a vested interest? Who pays the doctors? Every NFL player had a doctor too that either let them go back out or were at least ignored. The interest of athletes and of teams don't always align.

We're all speculating on his condition but let's not act like teams and doctors and athletes haven't ignored what's best for the health of the athlete to get back out there.

I'd be amazed if you showed 100 doctors Mcadoo's crash from last year and asked them if they think he should go ride a motorcycle at high speed, any of them would say, yes, seems like a great idea. I get that we think of these guys as gladiators but it also promotes a culture of disposable athletes that are forgotten about as soon as they're not winning and they have to live with the consequences.

zachsmotoing wrote:

After that hit and seeing him struggle to move afterwards he obviously had a injury to his brain . I felt like I was watching a...

After that hit and seeing him struggle to move afterwards he obviously had a injury to his brain . I felt like I was watching a UFC fighter after getting tkoed. Seeing his post I think he is gonna race but I feel like someone shouldn’t allow him weather that’s the team or the series idk…

DonM wrote:

Are you his Dr?…better yet are you a Dr? Or is this just your opinion you decided from your recliner….

DonM wrote:

You’re misunderstanding my position…I’m not saying that he should be allowed to race or not, what I’m saying is that the professional doctors are more qualified...

You’re misunderstanding my position…I’m not saying that he should be allowed to race or not, what I’m saying is that the professional doctors are more qualified to make that decision and have an opinion than a group of people on a message board who may or may not have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night…the naive ones art the people that think they are qualified because they saw it on TV…The Dr’s that will make the call do not have a vested interest on whether he races or not, only in what’s best for his health…

cr12500 wrote:

They don't have a vested interest? Who pays the doctors? Every NFL player had a doctor too that either let them go back out or were...

They don't have a vested interest? Who pays the doctors? Every NFL player had a doctor too that either let them go back out or were at least ignored. The interest of athletes and of teams don't always align.

We're all speculating on his condition but let's not act like teams and doctors and athletes haven't ignored what's best for the health of the athlete to get back out there.

I'd be amazed if you showed 100 doctors Mcadoo's crash from last year and asked them if they think he should go ride a motorcycle at high speed, any of them would say, yes, seems like a great idea. I get that we think of these guys as gladiators but it also promotes a culture of disposable athletes that are forgotten about as soon as they're not winning and they have to live with the consequences.

DonM wrote:

So you think that because Chase is paying them they will tell him what he wants to hear? There is a medical code of ethics that...

So you think that because Chase is paying them they will tell him what he wants to hear? There is a medical code of ethics that every doctor has to uphold and adhere to, if they do not they will lose their medical license….pretty sure that they will err on the side of caution when it comes to a brain injury…and if you showed 100 doctors a video they would tell you they couldn’t make a determination on someone’s health without the opportunity to examine them…it’s the non-doctors that think they can make a determination from a video…

zachsmotoing wrote:

After that hit and seeing him struggle to move afterwards he obviously had a injury to his brain . I felt like I was watching a...

After that hit and seeing him struggle to move afterwards he obviously had a injury to his brain . I felt like I was watching a UFC fighter after getting tkoed. Seeing his post I think he is gonna race but I feel like someone shouldn’t allow him weather that’s the team or the series idk…

DonM wrote:

Are you his Dr?…better yet are you a Dr? Or is this just your opinion you decided from your recliner….

Heggo wrote:

And here he his ..... Are you a dick? .... better yet are you a dickhead? Never mind. I already decided made my opinion from my...

And here he his .....

Are you a dick? .... better yet are you a dickhead? Never mind. I already decided made my opinion from my recliner .......

It's a forum. People have opinions. Opinions are like assholes. There's plenty in here. Carry on.

Robbirob25 wrote:

Holy crap we got a lot of Doctors in here!!!

DonM wrote:

So you think that because Chase is paying them they will tell him what he wants to hear? There is a medical code of ethics that...

So you think that because Chase is paying them they will tell him what he wants to hear? There is a medical code of ethics that every doctor has to uphold and adhere to, if they do not they will lose their medical license….pretty sure that they will err on the side of caution when it comes to a brain injury…and if you showed 100 doctors a video they would tell you they couldn’t make a determination on someone’s health without the opportunity to examine them…it’s the non-doctors that think they can make a determination from a video…

cr12500 wrote:

I'm not going to state what Chase's doctor did or didn't do. Only that there have been tons of doctors that have violated code of ethics...

I'm not going to state what Chase's doctor did or didn't do. Only that there have been tons of doctors that have violated code of ethics to prescribe medicine or give advice that benefitted them. Chase's doctor may have just said, it's probably not a good idea but it's not the end of the world.

Again, just speculation but let's not act like everything is done in the best interest of athletes. They're not even employees, just contractors to these companies.

Code of ethics violation examples:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdpa/pr/united-states-files-suit-against-u…

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndny/pr/former-albany-physician-pays-12500…

zachsmotoing wrote:

If the “code of ethics” mattered bodybuilders wouldn’t get steroids prescribed for them , u wouldn’t be able to get painkillers by just saying u have...

If the “code of ethics” mattered bodybuilders wouldn’t get steroids prescribed for them , u wouldn’t be able to get painkillers by just saying u have back pain

zachsmotoing wrote:

If the “code of ethics” mattered bodybuilders wouldn’t get steroids prescribed for them , u wouldn’t be able to get painkillers by just saying u have...

If the “code of ethics” mattered bodybuilders wouldn’t get steroids prescribed for them , u wouldn’t be able to get painkillers by just saying u have back pain