Black Flag Vince Freise

NorCalRedRyder 2/5/2022 11:29pm
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Wishing anyone to be in a chair is beyond disgusting. Keep drinking dipshit.
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Mugeneco 2/6/2022 12:44am
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TXDirt wrote:
If Osborne can torpedo Ssvaghty and it’s celebrated then Friese can take Craig out.

I’ll allow it.
devindavisphoto wrote:
Final corner, for the championship, very low speeds. Sure. Round 4, not in the title hunt, VERY HIGH SPEED. You're a fucking clown if you'd allow...
Final corner, for the championship, very low speeds. Sure.

Round 4, not in the title hunt, VERY HIGH SPEED. You're a fucking clown if you'd allow shit like that.
like Anderson last week move on Roczen ??
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TXDirt wrote:
If Osborne can torpedo Ssvaghty and it’s celebrated then Friese can take Craig out.

I’ll allow it.
devindavisphoto wrote:
Final corner, for the championship, very low speeds. Sure. Round 4, not in the title hunt, VERY HIGH SPEED. You're a fucking clown if you'd allow...
Final corner, for the championship, very low speeds. Sure.

Round 4, not in the title hunt, VERY HIGH SPEED. You're a fucking clown if you'd allow shit like that.
Mugeneco wrote:
like Anderson last week move on Roczen ??
Night and day difference.

Ando and Kenny had their lines converge on the exit of the turn and came together just enough for Kenny to go down.

Vince straight up yard saled a lead right on corner entry after completely going straight through the inside lane (that literally NOBODY else had “trouble” with that night) and torpedoing CC.

Did you even watch the race?
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ProbablyDave 2/6/2022 1:21am
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TXDirt wrote:
If Osborne can torpedo Ssvaghty and it’s celebrated then Friese can take Craig out.

I’ll allow it.
devindavisphoto wrote:
Final corner, for the championship, very low speeds. Sure. Round 4, not in the title hunt, VERY HIGH SPEED. You're a fucking clown if you'd allow...
Final corner, for the championship, very low speeds. Sure.

Round 4, not in the title hunt, VERY HIGH SPEED. You're a fucking clown if you'd allow shit like that.
TXDirt wrote:
If it’s allowed on the last lap for a championship then it should be allowed on the first lap first round of a qualifier Stop with...
If it’s allowed on the last lap for a championship then it should be allowed on the first lap first round of a qualifier

Stop with the “well it depends on the situation” bullshit.

It’s either allowed or not allowed. Period.
Firstly, Osborne got fined for the pass. Secondly, with riders taking out other riders the penalty is *always* situational. Reed taking out Canard resulted in a black flag, Osborne taking out Savatgy resulted in a fine, Anderson taking out Roczen resulted in Anderson having to talk to the officials, and there are thousands of take outs that came to nothing. You can't have "allowed or not allowed" in a semi-contact sport. There always going to be a judgement call.
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Mugeneco 2/6/2022 1:32am
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devindavisphoto wrote:
Final corner, for the championship, very low speeds. Sure. Round 4, not in the title hunt, VERY HIGH SPEED. You're a fucking clown if you'd allow...
Final corner, for the championship, very low speeds. Sure.

Round 4, not in the title hunt, VERY HIGH SPEED. You're a fucking clown if you'd allow shit like that.
Mugeneco wrote:
like Anderson last week move on Roczen ??
Yeti831 wrote:
Night and day difference. Ando and Kenny had their lines converge on the exit of the turn and came together just enough for Kenny to go...
Night and day difference.

Ando and Kenny had their lines converge on the exit of the turn and came together just enough for Kenny to go down.

Vince straight up yard saled a lead right on corner entry after completely going straight through the inside lane (that literally NOBODY else had “trouble” with that night) and torpedoing CC.

Did you even watch the race?
Graig left door wide open
its only round 4
it was early in the race


so whats different ??
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akmx17 2/6/2022 1:33am
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Looked like Vince missed his line and it is what it is

Maybe Craig should ride the 450 class if he is so disgusted by the amateurish riding in the 250 class
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Way too high speed to do that. CC could have left on a stretcher after that one…
Yo mama...
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mmcmx 2/6/2022 1:49am
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I like having Vince at the track. I cheer every time he gets passed so every race he makes me happy 5 times on average.
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Chris99Flannery 2/6/2022 2:20am
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Just keeps cross jumping as well. He’s so sketchy.
$JT will be good to listen too.
Is Friese cross-eyed or somethin.. would explain lots
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J-roc 2/6/2022 3:55am
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The 3rd race he was stopping in corners when anyone came up on him because he was scared of getting taken out. What a joke of a racer take your holeshot money and get off the track. 10 years of the same bs is enough. There is no chance for a title for you, even in 250s. Maybe he can move down to the futures class next holeshot that every week and maybe he can hold off 14 year olds but still probably not.
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Sandusky26 2/6/2022 4:24am
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If I’m Craig I’m heading to the pits and fighting everybody on friezes team… the manager, the mechanic, friese, his momma, his grandma… everybody catching hands
Friese’s Grandma is down to fight.
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Gordon Liddy 2/6/2022 4:37am
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It is past time for the AMA to do something more than probation.
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Talisker 2/6/2022 4:53am
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Wonder what JT’s take on this one’s gonna be?
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davis224 2/6/2022 5:19am
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Just rewatched it and it was a stupid choice by Friese for sure, but I feel like everyone here has forgotten what an intentional takeout looks like.
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moto_on 2/6/2022 6:01am
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Someone needs to punt his ass into row 4. …and repeat as needed, until the moron takes up another sport. He’s been cross-jumping, blocking, and being...
Someone needs to punt his ass into row 4.

…and repeat as needed, until the moron takes up another sport. He’s been cross-jumping, blocking, and being a general-purpose douche his entire career.
Sounds like Friese punted Craig into row four already doesn't it? He's one step ahead of you.
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Brett_Clark 2/6/2022 6:29am
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Some of you need your eyes checked. Comparing fries/craig hit to savatgy/Osbourne or Anderson/roczen is obsurded. In both those situations the rider making the pass got a wheel in front of who they were passing. Friese hit Craig in the swingarm. You can see him change his line and go straight at Craig. He doesn't need to be beat to death but he definitely deserves a suspension for a race. His riding his entire career has been over the top and he's had very little consequences too his actions. Also the dumbdicks that say Craig needs a penalty for hitting friese on his way back by him can get fucked. Friese didn't even fall, both were on the lead lap and fighting for position. Craig was awfully nice for what should of happened.
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Brett_Clark wrote:
Some of you need your eyes checked. Comparing fries/craig hit to savatgy/Osbourne or Anderson/roczen is obsurded. In both those situations the rider making the pass got...
Some of you need your eyes checked. Comparing fries/craig hit to savatgy/Osbourne or Anderson/roczen is obsurded. In both those situations the rider making the pass got a wheel in front of who they were passing. Friese hit Craig in the swingarm. You can see him change his line and go straight at Craig. He doesn't need to be beat to death but he definitely deserves a suspension for a race. His riding his entire career has been over the top and he's had very little consequences too his actions. Also the dumbdicks that say Craig needs a penalty for hitting friese on his way back by him can get fucked. Friese didn't even fall, both were on the lead lap and fighting for position. Craig was awfully nice for what should of happened.
You can also see him shoulder check Craig.
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PNWMXer 2/6/2022 6:51am
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Chris99Flannery wrote:
Just keeps cross jumping as well. He’s so sketchy.
$JT will be good to listen too.
Is Friese cross-eyed or somethin.. would explain lots
Yep. He cross-jumped the shit out of several riders last week at A2 in the long rhythm section. He damn near caused a crash doing it in the heat race with Mosiman there. Those riders were committing to the triple triple etc and Friese was just moving over on them with nowhere for them to go. Ridiculous.
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NorCalRedRyder wrote:
Wishing anyone to be in a chair is beyond disgusting. Keep drinking dipshit.
Agree 100%.
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Brett_Clark wrote:
Some of you need your eyes checked. Comparing fries/craig hit to savatgy/Osbourne or Anderson/roczen is obsurded. In both those situations the rider making the pass got...
Some of you need your eyes checked. Comparing fries/craig hit to savatgy/Osbourne or Anderson/roczen is obsurded. In both those situations the rider making the pass got a wheel in front of who they were passing. Friese hit Craig in the swingarm. You can see him change his line and go straight at Craig. He doesn't need to be beat to death but he definitely deserves a suspension for a race. His riding his entire career has been over the top and he's had very little consequences too his actions. Also the dumbdicks that say Craig needs a penalty for hitting friese on his way back by him can get fucked. Friese didn't even fall, both were on the lead lap and fighting for position. Craig was awfully nice for what should of happened.
What the hell is wrong with everyone in here? Have you all gone soft? Should he just let Craig by and suck hiss ass like the media and everyone else? No he was racing Craig to the corner because he rides with heart and grit and doesnt just give up and let someone by. Friese was inside of Craig he took him wide and expected Craig to shut off. Its a racing incident at wide open speeds. Inside man will always have the advantage. Friese made a bad judgment but its on the gas racing to a corner someone has to shut off first. You all act like this is no contact ping pong or something.
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akmx17 wrote:
Looked like Vince missed his line and it is what it is Maybe Craig should ride the 450 class if he is so disgusted by the...
Looked like Vince missed his line and it is what it is

Maybe Craig should ride the 450 class if he is so disgusted by the amateurish riding in the 250 class
Are you going to pay him more than he’s getting paid to ride a 250?…because nobody else will…and if you payed attention you would know that there are 30+ more riders that have raced more 250 races than Craig…
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JACE516 2/6/2022 7:26am
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Vince "only" has talent to a certain level. He's a 3rd to 6th place guy in the class who gets great starts. He makes moves at times that he does not have talent enough to pull off. He has run out of or beyond his talent level enough to have a reputation for making insane moves. Weston Peick expressed his displeasure with Vince's riding at A1 2016. Maybe it's time for Vince to take a refresher!
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moto_on 2/6/2022 7:32am
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akmx17 wrote:
Looked like Vince missed his line and it is what it is Maybe Craig should ride the 450 class if he is so disgusted by the...
Looked like Vince missed his line and it is what it is

Maybe Craig should ride the 450 class if he is so disgusted by the amateurish riding in the 250 class
DonM wrote:
Are you going to pay him more than he’s getting paid to ride a 250?…because nobody else will…and if you payed attention you would know that...
Are you going to pay him more than he’s getting paid to ride a 250?…because nobody else will…and if you payed attention you would know that there are 30+ more riders that have raced more 250 races than Craig…
Its the supercross experience he has with 10 years plus racing under his belt. Compared to guys like Mosiman , Shimoda and Hunter who have only a few. That's why people have an issue with it.
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DonM 2/6/2022 7:46am
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akmx17 wrote:
Looked like Vince missed his line and it is what it is Maybe Craig should ride the 450 class if he is so disgusted by the...
Looked like Vince missed his line and it is what it is

Maybe Craig should ride the 450 class if he is so disgusted by the amateurish riding in the 250 class
DonM wrote:
Are you going to pay him more than he’s getting paid to ride a 250?…because nobody else will…and if you payed attention you would know that...
Are you going to pay him more than he’s getting paid to ride a 250?…because nobody else will…and if you payed attention you would know that there are 30+ more riders that have raced more 250 races than Craig…
moto_on wrote:
Its the supercross experience he has with 10 years plus racing under his belt. Compared to guys like Mosiman , Shimoda and Hunter who have only...
Its the supercross experience he has with 10 years plus racing under his belt. Compared to guys like Mosiman , Shimoda and Hunter who have only a few. That's why people have an issue with it.
Again….are you going to pay him more to race 450’s? It’s well within the rules and because of his injuries and his time off there are 30 other riders that have raced more 250 races than him…but go ahead and hold that against him and hate on him instead of the rules and teams that allow it….why aren’t you saying the same about Blose or even Friese as they have raced in 450’s and dropped back down and are both over 30 and have more races in 250’s than CC…
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moto_on 2/6/2022 7:55am
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DonM wrote:
Are you going to pay him more than he’s getting paid to ride a 250?…because nobody else will…and if you payed attention you would know that...
Are you going to pay him more than he’s getting paid to ride a 250?…because nobody else will…and if you payed attention you would know that there are 30+ more riders that have raced more 250 races than Craig…
moto_on wrote:
Its the supercross experience he has with 10 years plus racing under his belt. Compared to guys like Mosiman , Shimoda and Hunter who have only...
Its the supercross experience he has with 10 years plus racing under his belt. Compared to guys like Mosiman , Shimoda and Hunter who have only a few. That's why people have an issue with it.
DonM wrote:
Again….are you going to pay him more to race 450’s? It’s well within the rules and because of his injuries and his time off there are...
Again….are you going to pay him more to race 450’s? It’s well within the rules and because of his injuries and his time off there are 30 other riders that have raced more 250 races than him…but go ahead and hold that against him and hate on him instead of the rules and teams that allow it….why aren’t you saying the same about Blose or even Friese as they have raced in 450’s and dropped back down and are both over 30 and have more races in 250’s than CC…
I get your point but does money trump ethics? Hes racin kids regardless how its sliced. This should be 29,30,and 96 shot at a title and theres no reason they need to beat Craig.. All my point is is I get it but it doesnt make it right. And it takes a potential championship away from the kids i mentioned who should be racing eachother only. And battling it out for the title. Its clear hes sandbagging he's blowing past these kids anyone can see it. Not hating just annoying to watch every week.
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Nick_Lalanne 2/6/2022 7:59am
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Did nobody notice that they removed the sand berm on the inside to the start of that turn? The race before it was there, they jumped into the inside and ripped that berm, right where he landed. Because they removed the berm when he landed with that much speed and nothing to turn on he couldn't do anything but go into the side of craig. I blame the track crew changing the track and no sight lap.
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HD1200 2/6/2022 8:05am
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Last week when JA took out KR, it was KR's fault for going outside knowing JA was near. Now CC goes outside on VF and it's VF's fault. Most of you guys only see what you want to see.
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moto_on wrote:
Its the supercross experience he has with 10 years plus racing under his belt. Compared to guys like Mosiman , Shimoda and Hunter who have only...
Its the supercross experience he has with 10 years plus racing under his belt. Compared to guys like Mosiman , Shimoda and Hunter who have only a few. That's why people have an issue with it.
DonM wrote:
Again….are you going to pay him more to race 450’s? It’s well within the rules and because of his injuries and his time off there are...
Again….are you going to pay him more to race 450’s? It’s well within the rules and because of his injuries and his time off there are 30 other riders that have raced more 250 races than him…but go ahead and hold that against him and hate on him instead of the rules and teams that allow it….why aren’t you saying the same about Blose or even Friese as they have raced in 450’s and dropped back down and are both over 30 and have more races in 250’s than CC…
moto_on wrote:
I get your point but does money trump ethics? Hes racin kids regardless how its sliced. This should be 29,30,and 96 shot at a title and...
I get your point but does money trump ethics? Hes racin kids regardless how its sliced. This should be 29,30,and 96 shot at a title and theres no reason they need to beat Craig.. All my point is is I get it but it doesnt make it right. And it takes a potential championship away from the kids i mentioned who should be racing eachother only. And battling it out for the title. Its clear hes sandbagging he's blowing past these kids anyone can see it. Not hating just annoying to watch every week.
Ethics? Who decides its ethically wrong for him to take the best offer for his family and future…you? What makes you think this is a class for riders under a certain age? Because it’s regional? There has never been an age limit in pro racing in the US and never should be…again why don’t you have a problem with Friese and Blose as they are both older and have raced more 250 races? Sorry you don’t like or approve of the situation because of the rules that are in place but to hate on one rider because of things that are out of his control is what I would call unethical….
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soggy 2/6/2022 8:08am
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All I can say is even Tony Alesia is upset with Vince
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Boomslang 2/6/2022 8:19am
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A twat is someone who's generally regarded as idiotic/foolish, not necessarily in possession of malice or evil intent.

A c*nt is someone who consciously does dickish things to people, usually with some sociopathic tendencies.

Vince Freise is a twunt.

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