The best rider in history that never won a race

quadzrulebro
Edited Date/Time 11/19/2021 3:26am
As I am sitting inside watching it snow and wondering how long it will be until I get to race again, I started watching old races on YouTube. I started thinking about how even the guy in 20th place would look like a superhero if he showed up at a local track. The depth of talent at the top is so deep. I got to thinking about who is the greatest and most accomplished rider in history to never win an AMA Pro Race. I’m thinking it is probably Weston Peick. Can anyone think of someone else in that category that can rival him?
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hanzhonglboy1 11/14/2021 8:27am
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Peick is a good answer, especially in the 450s. AFAIK, he never raced 250s
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resetjet 11/14/2021 8:37am
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Thats a long list. Like villo said “most guys who do what i do will never win a race. A championship is a whole other story”
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This question is an oxymoron.......
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Park Boys 11/14/2021 9:19am
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You would almost have to break it down by 125/250SX races which are regional vs National wins. Or did they win SX and never MX or vice versa.
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quadzrulebro 11/14/2021 9:24am
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Park Boys wrote:
You would almost have to break it down by 125/250SX races which are regional vs National wins. Or did they win SX and never MX or...
You would almost have to break it down by 125/250SX races which are regional vs National wins. Or did they win SX and never MX or vice versa.
If they won an AMA regional Supercross race, that is an AMA Pro race win, so they wouldn’t qualify. I’m looking for the best rider that never won an AMA professional race, indoors or out.
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Michael Byrne maybe. He spent a long time in the top 10, sometimes top 5 or podium. Technically he did win a race, or just a moto. The first moto at the 2003 Southwick 125cc national on a CR125, the overall was won by Craig Anderson. No overalls or main events though in either class.
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fullfloater 11/14/2021 9:41am
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Byrne is a good one but I'd say he's out because he won a moto. Maybe Ross Pederson? Won a ton in Canada obviously and did well in AMA SX & MX and USGPs but never won a moto.
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Mavetism 11/14/2021 9:53am
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Weston Peick probably. It's really hard to pick someone from mxgp.. From research Aleksandr Tonkov best MX2 rider without a win (he didn't ride mxgp), maybe Mitch Evans?

https://mxgpresults.com/riders/ Thats a great page btw!
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quadzrulebro 11/14/2021 10:08am
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Gukamonster wrote:
Michael Byrne maybe. He spent a long time in the top 10, sometimes top 5 or podium. Technically he did win a race, or just a...
Michael Byrne maybe. He spent a long time in the top 10, sometimes top 5 or podium. Technically he did win a race, or just a moto. The first moto at the 2003 Southwick 125cc national on a CR125, the overall was won by Craig Anderson. No overalls or main events though in either class.
I forgot about Byrne. That’s a good one! A moto win doesn’t equal a race win, so he qualifies.
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vitalriderCrf 11/14/2021 10:21am
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Reynard? At least for Supercross
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Johnny Ringo 11/14/2021 10:21am
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Gukamonster wrote:
Michael Byrne maybe. He spent a long time in the top 10, sometimes top 5 or podium. Technically he did win a race, or just a...
Michael Byrne maybe. He spent a long time in the top 10, sometimes top 5 or podium. Technically he did win a race, or just a moto. The first moto at the 2003 Southwick 125cc national on a CR125, the overall was won by Craig Anderson. No overalls or main events though in either class.
quadzrulebro wrote:
I forgot about Byrne. That’s a good one! A moto win doesn’t equal a race win, so he qualifies.
Heath Voss was Weston ish. Did Lucky Lewis win an AMA pro race?
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quadzrulebro 11/14/2021 10:25am
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vitalriderCrf wrote:
Reynard? At least for Supercross
A quick check of the vault shows that Reynard won 5 nationals, so he’s out.
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UpTiTe 11/14/2021 10:32am
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Scott Burnsworth is by far the best rider to never get an overall win.
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MXJORRIT 11/14/2021 10:47am
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I might be wrong, but I think Jason Anderson never won an outdoor national overall.
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MXJORRIT wrote:
I might be wrong, but I think Jason Anderson never won an outdoor national overall.
He's a 450 SX champion.
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gt80rider wrote:
This question is an oxymoron.......
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MXJORRIT wrote:
I might be wrong, but I think Jason Anderson never won an outdoor national overall.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
He's a 450 SX champion.
That's why I am referring to OUTDOOR national. MX not SX
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Kyle Lewis? Maybe not as close to the podium, now that I think of it, but man, he was at it a long time.

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MXJORRIT wrote:
That's why I am referring to OUTDOOR national. MX not SX
Maybe you missed the part that it's about the best rider to NEVER have won a pro race.
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MIke Alessi won a heat race, did he win a main?
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Johnny Ringo 11/14/2021 11:18am
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Rotaholic wrote:
MIke Alessi won a heat race, did he win a main?
He won multiple outdoors
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Jim Holley has to be close to the top of the list.

Scott Burnworth? Michael Byrne? Mike Guerra? Ron Turner? Jim Gibson?
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UpTiTe 11/14/2021 12:05pm
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APLMAN99 wrote:
Jim Holley has to be close to the top of the list.

Scott Burnworth? Michael Byrne? Mike Guerra? Ron Turner? Jim Gibson?
I forgot about Gibson, he was fast.
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Raikzz 11/14/2021 12:10pm
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Brandon Hartranft, Michael Mosiman , AMart and RJ on SX
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wreckitrandy 11/14/2021 12:10pm
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Jojo Keller? He came mighty dang close at Millville I believe.
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Raikzz wrote:
Brandon Hartranft, Michael Mosiman , AMart and RJ on SX
Amart has won races and overall before. Matt Walker ever win?
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fullfloater 11/14/2021 12:38pm
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APLMAN99 wrote:
Jim Holley has to be close to the top of the list.

Scott Burnworth? Michael Byrne? Mike Guerra? Ron Turner? Jim Gibson?
UpTiTe wrote:
I forgot about Gibson, he was fast.
Gibson is a good one. He has several top 3 outdoor overalls. Did he never manage to win a moto??

https://vault.racerxonline.com/rider/jim-gibson/races

Might be a winner.

Burnworth is also good. Bunch of 2nd, 3rd overalls. Too bad the vault doesn't have moto scores.

https://vault.racerxonline.com/rider/scott-burnworth/races

(Edit: Note that Gibson won GPs. I know that's not the OP's criteria but if you won on the world championship tour you tasted victory at the top)
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deanwhite51 11/14/2021 12:48pm
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Tim Ferry..?
I mean he won a championship. But never actually won a race that season didn't he?
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