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It doesn't matter if someone tells you a gun is NOT loaded when they hand it to you.
You MUST:
Confirm for yourself it is indeed not loaded.
Even if you confirm it is not loaded, treat it as loaded and never put your finger on the trigger unless you're ready to fire it and never, EVER, point it at someone you don't intend to shoot.
Alec Baldwin pulled the trigger. He was the last line of defense in the chain. He had the responsibility to personally verify that the gun was safe to operate for its intended purpose; meaning there were no live rounds in the gun. He did not fulfill this responsibility.
Yes, others are also culpable; the armorer especially, as the person with overall responsibility for every weapon used on set.
Ultimately though, it comes down to Baldwin having pulled the trigger. His actions directly led to the death of Halyna Hutchins.
Still doesnt have a single thing in common with the Floyd case
And it’s clearly not murder, but let’s wait till we actually see the proper reports
there were protocols and procedures in place to prevent this from happening that involved others in positions of responsibility. It was not just someone randomly handing someone else a gun and saying it's not loaded.
Been there, done that fighting for a hotel…
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-10-22/al…
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Perhaps that is what happened here
You’re reaching for things that aren’t there and making very stupid comparisons that are making you look like an idiot. Throwing in your racial animus was telling, also.
Time to take guns away from Hollywood- they are clearly not responsible enough..
There may not have been any union members there at the time, but if that rumor is coming from what that person said then it’s a bad interpretation.
But I guess not when it’s your hero Baldwin. The rules change. I’m not surprised coming from you.
I’m also not entirely sure where you get the idea that Baldwin is my hero.
Are you on an all night bender or something?!?!?!
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As for an actors responsibility to make sure the weapon is safe before action is called, I don't work in film production but if I'm the armorer or Prop Master or whoevers job it is to make sure the gun is safe I wouldn't want actors jacking around with it after I've done my check.
As for the Politics of it. I think it's hypocritical to be a critic of 2A rights at the same time you make art glorifying gun culture, possession, and use.
Not to downplay the issue, but those crews sound like they have it WAY easy than what Local 831 sd members were doing every LA show and with less break time.
I know there are a few people who work in the movies that post here, I wonder if there's any truth to that rumor?
According to Actors' Equity union:
- Treat all guns as if they are loaded and deadly.
- The property master or armorer should carefully train you in the safe use of any firearm you must handle. Be honest if you have no knowledge about guns. Do not overstate your qualifications.
- Never point a firearm at anyone including yourself. Always cheat the shot by aiming to the right or left of the target character. If asked to point and shoot directly at a living target, consult with the property master or armorer for the prescribed safety procedures.
- Check the firearm every time you take possession of it. Before each use, make sure the gun has been test-fired off stage and then ask to test fire it yourself. Watch the prop master check the cylinders and barrel to be sure no foreign object or dummy bullet has become lodged inside.
- If you are in a production where shots are to be fired and there is no qualified property master, go to the nearest phone and call Actors' Equity Association. A union representative will make sure proper procedures are followed.
Appears there were more than a few violations of the firearms use standard of care. Established system of controls, high-risk activity, disregard for basic safety..., Negligence is the word.
Oh, wait. Politics are involved.
Nevermind.
Let’s go Brandon!
//FJB.
I have never held or fired a gun with blanks, but seems like it would be a pretty minimal difference to me.
Was the Gun on set a handgun or rifle?
The two incidents are a quite a little bit different as Cheney knew that he had live ammo in his firearm, but also Cheney’s incident didn’t result in a fatality, either……
The political angles are fairly different as well as one of those was a political official at the time, the other a private citizen who is politically outspoken at times. They could be deemed similar politically is if one needs to view everything through the filter of whether they agree with someone’s politics or not.
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