Coisy gone from MotoConcepts Racing

6/17/2009 1:56am
kevin204 wrote:
What was Coisy doing? Testing with one of the big teams as a potential fill in maybe?
Coisy told Lebig (Moto Verte french journalist) that he just went golfing ...

The main problem was the team has already given his bike to another rider (Peick) ... And they had to quickly find a reason (...) to release his contract ...

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Excuse the crap translation... it's the internet's fault!

Since her surprised ousting of the team MotoConcepts, Benjamin Coisy had remained silent. In the microphone of motoverte.com, the young French pilot decides finally to explain why her American adventure to outdoor stops suddenly. Everything is not pink in the pitiless world of cross-country running US.

Motoverte.com: Why the MotoConcepts team has t-elle decided to part from you overnight?

Benjamin Coisy: “ It is a very good question and I confess even today that I really do not know why. Everything began to Glen Helen where I hurt myself in the shoulder. I went to the doctor who said to me that I had made an acromio claviculaire luxation. According to him, I have had it for month without making anything. It proves to be that three weeks later, I went better. I therefore went back at the doctor's to recover a written approval to run again. When I went to search my motorbike to MotoConcepts to run again, I realized that it had been entrusted to another pilot.I was therefore in the doubt from not knowing there too much what there happened. Nobody answered my phone calls, my émails, etc. I did not stop my training therefore. I went to the room, I made physical appearance, bike, etc. I finally accepted an enamel of the boss saying to me that I was not any more part of the team because I did not have, or - saying, respected my commitments. ”

What commitments would not you have respected?
The boss said to me that he did not believe in my wound in the shoulder because I fell in the bottom from Glen Helen without anybody to testify it. Unfortunately I could not choose the place where I fell. It is a bit strong. From there, they reproach for me for having been to play golf during my re-education. I did not have motorbike, I could not run. Yes I went to make some parties of golf but anything that deserves such an excessive dismissal. They found excuses absolutely cans to lay me off. Once they had replaced me with another pilot they indeed had difficulties in knowing which to keep for the rest of season. Count held that I was under contract, it was necessary to them to find something to part from me without paying the entirety of my wage until September. Besides, they transport a poor picture of me. It is not normal. I want to explain to people of middle what there indeed happened not to be taken for a comedian.

What is your program now?

“ I know in no way. I am going to come back in France because my visa was linked to my contract with MotoConcepts. I have no choice too much at this level there. I am therefore going to come back the home and to see what there happens. At any rate, do not wait that I participate again in SX turn. It is out of question there, it is sure. If I go shopping in Europe, it will be GPs, SX of Bercy, Geneva and Barcelona. They will see as one goes along. ”

Do you keep a bitter taste further to this affair?
“ Yes certainly. I have bowls because even if I did not make flamboyant results in Supercross-country running, I accomplished all the same some good shopping. In outdoor I had got ready with JMB, they had worked, I was ready for all summer. To be off-loaded in that way is not very just especially without visible reasons. I am also disappointed of the manner motoverte.com loves on my back by announcing on the site “ transferred Coisy! ” The sensational was not probably necessary in this situation. I even do not speak about reactions as it procreated on the site and forums. At the same time it is game. It is necessary to make with but there are probably ways to make. ”
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6/17/2009 5:54am
Here's a better translation Smile

Not taking part in anyway but thought Coisy deserved to express his view on this. Here's what he said in an interview for French magazine Moto Verte (interview by Lebig)


Motoverte.com : Why did Team MotoConcept decided to part with you overnight?

Benjamin Coisy : “It's a very good question and I have to admit that until now I don't really know why. Everything started at Glen Helen when I hurt my shoulder. I went to see the doctor who said that I had a sprained shoulder and prescribed 1 month without activity. But 3 weeks later I was feeling better, I went back to the doctor to get a written release to go ride again. When I went to pick up my bike at MotoConcept to train again, I realized it had been allocated to another rider. I started to doubt then, not really understanding what was going on. No one returned my phone calls, my emails, etc. I never stopped training due to that though. I went to the gym, went biking, etc. Finally I received an email from the boss saying that I wasn't part of the team anymore because, according to him I hadn't supposedly, respected my contract.”

What parts of the contract didn't you supposedly respect?
The boss said he didn't believe in my shoulder injury because I fell in the back at Glen Helen and no one could testify/report that I really did. Unfortunately I didn't choose the part of the track where I crashed. From that they blame me for playing golf during my recovery. I had no bike, I couldn't ride. Yes I went to play golf but nothing that justify such a lay-off. They used completely manufactured excuses to lay me off. As soon as they had replaced me with another rider, they must have had some challenges to decide which of us to keep for the season. Since I was under contract they had to find a way out to cut me loose and not have to pay my salary until September. On top of that they are giving a bad image of myself and that is not good/fair. I want to explain to the industry what really happened and not be pictured like a slacker.

What's your plan now?
“i don't know at all. I am going back to France because my visa here was linked to my employer, MotoConcept. So I'm going home and see what's coming next. In any case, don't expect me to race the French SX Tour. No way. If I race in Europe it'll be some GP's, the Bercy SX, Geneva SX and Barcelona SX. We will see.”

Are you quite upset by this situation?
“Yes, of course. I'm actually pretty pissed, even if I didn't do anything exceptional in SX, I rode some good races. For the Outdoors, I had been preparing with JMB, we worked a lot and I was ready for the Summer. To be laid off like that wasn't really fair, especially without real reasons. I am pretty disappointed too by the way motoverte.com reported the story on the website with the title "Coisy fired!" The catchy title wasn't really necessary in this case. I am not even going to talk about the reactions it created on the website and on the forums, at the same time, it's the way it is, we have to deal with it but there are better manners to do it."

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6/17/2009 6:25am
Haha... Good work Shenzi! I didn't even read it till I got home, just realised how bad it is haha...
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6/17/2009 6:27am
So nationality now determines your race?


I gotta go...this is big news!
LOL Nice
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6/17/2009 6:30am
Shenzi wrote:
Here's a better translation :) Not taking part in anyway but thought Coisy deserved to express his view on this. Here's what he said in an...
Here's a better translation Smile

Not taking part in anyway but thought Coisy deserved to express his view on this. Here's what he said in an interview for French magazine Moto Verte (interview by Lebig)


Motoverte.com : Why did Team MotoConcept decided to part with you overnight?

Benjamin Coisy : “It's a very good question and I have to admit that until now I don't really know why. Everything started at Glen Helen when I hurt my shoulder. I went to see the doctor who said that I had a sprained shoulder and prescribed 1 month without activity. But 3 weeks later I was feeling better, I went back to the doctor to get a written release to go ride again. When I went to pick up my bike at MotoConcept to train again, I realized it had been allocated to another rider. I started to doubt then, not really understanding what was going on. No one returned my phone calls, my emails, etc. I never stopped training due to that though. I went to the gym, went biking, etc. Finally I received an email from the boss saying that I wasn't part of the team anymore because, according to him I hadn't supposedly, respected my contract.”

What parts of the contract didn't you supposedly respect?
The boss said he didn't believe in my shoulder injury because I fell in the back at Glen Helen and no one could testify/report that I really did. Unfortunately I didn't choose the part of the track where I crashed. From that they blame me for playing golf during my recovery. I had no bike, I couldn't ride. Yes I went to play golf but nothing that justify such a lay-off. They used completely manufactured excuses to lay me off. As soon as they had replaced me with another rider, they must have had some challenges to decide which of us to keep for the season. Since I was under contract they had to find a way out to cut me loose and not have to pay my salary until September. On top of that they are giving a bad image of myself and that is not good/fair. I want to explain to the industry what really happened and not be pictured like a slacker.

What's your plan now?
“i don't know at all. I am going back to France because my visa here was linked to my employer, MotoConcept. So I'm going home and see what's coming next. In any case, don't expect me to race the French SX Tour. No way. If I race in Europe it'll be some GP's, the Bercy SX, Geneva SX and Barcelona SX. We will see.”

Are you quite upset by this situation?
“Yes, of course. I'm actually pretty pissed, even if I didn't do anything exceptional in SX, I rode some good races. For the Outdoors, I had been preparing with JMB, we worked a lot and I was ready for the Summer. To be laid off like that wasn't really fair, especially without real reasons. I am pretty disappointed too by the way motoverte.com reported the story on the website with the title "Coisy fired!" The catchy title wasn't really necessary in this case. I am not even going to talk about the reactions it created on the website and on the forums, at the same time, it's the way it is, we have to deal with it but there are better manners to do it."

If thats true then Motoconcepts is some shady, integrity-less jerks.
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6/17/2009 7:56am
Its a shame about Coisy...he is a very talented rider.

interesting they are worried about contractual obligations.......I think they need to review our contract! Angry
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6/17/2009 11:41am
Anyone who play's Golf knows you can't play with a shoulder injury, sounds like they had a faker on their hands.
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6/17/2009 12:00pm
P wrote:
The first sentence of the press release really would have been enough IMHO.


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jbomx363 wrote:
I like it that they took the stand and gave the reason he was released. Guess what would have happened if they didn't lay it all...
I like it that they took the stand and gave the reason he was released.

Guess what would have happened if they didn't lay it all out? People would be asking what happened, why, etc. etc.

Clear cut and to the point. Kudos to them.
That's great if you only want one side of the story. They should have just said that it didn't work out and left it at that. As it stands I think they both look bad.


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6/17/2009 12:02pm
500guy wrote:
Anyone who play's Golf knows you can't play with a shoulder injury, sounds like they had a faker on their hands.
I guess but I honestly cant see JMB working with a low class guy that would fake an injury.
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6/17/2009 1:14pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:28am
P wrote:
The first sentence of the press release really would have been enough IMHO.


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jbomx363 wrote:
I like it that they took the stand and gave the reason he was released. Guess what would have happened if they didn't lay it all...
I like it that they took the stand and gave the reason he was released.

Guess what would have happened if they didn't lay it all out? People would be asking what happened, why, etc. etc.

Clear cut and to the point. Kudos to them.
P wrote:
That's great if you only want one side of the story. They should have just said that it didn't work out and left it at that...
That's great if you only want one side of the story. They should have just said that it didn't work out and left it at that. As it stands I think they both look bad.


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As I stated earlier, if they didn't have some good proof that would stand up in court if need be, I doubt they would have said it publicly that he was in breach of contract.


Coisy's statement is what is to be expected from someone who get's let go. It's never anything they did, right? Everyone I've let go acted like they didn't do crap to deserve it! When I got let go from a job, I acted the same way, but I knew I deserved it, just didn't want them to know I knew!


I guess but I honestly cant see JMB working with a low class guy that would fake an injury.




And I can't see Lamson getting caught up with someone who is "shady".


Does it really matter? He got let go. Time to move on. Good Luck to Coisy, he was fun to watch in SX.



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6/17/2009 1:27pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:28am
jbomx363 wrote:
I like it that they took the stand and gave the reason he was released. Guess what would have happened if they didn't lay it all...
I like it that they took the stand and gave the reason he was released.

Guess what would have happened if they didn't lay it all out? People would be asking what happened, why, etc. etc.

Clear cut and to the point. Kudos to them.
P wrote:
That's great if you only want one side of the story. They should have just said that it didn't work out and left it at that...
That's great if you only want one side of the story. They should have just said that it didn't work out and left it at that. As it stands I think they both look bad.


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jbomx363 wrote:
As I stated earlier, if they didn't have some good proof that would stand up in court if need be, I doubt they would have said...
As I stated earlier, if they didn't have some good proof that would stand up in court if need be, I doubt they would have said it publicly that he was in breach of contract.


Coisy's statement is what is to be expected from someone who get's let go. It's never anything they did, right? Everyone I've let go acted like they didn't do crap to deserve it! When I got let go from a job, I acted the same way, but I knew I deserved it, just didn't want them to know I knew!


I guess but I honestly cant see JMB working with a low class guy that would fake an injury.




And I can't see Lamson getting caught up with someone who is "shady".


Does it really matter? He got let go. Time to move on. Good Luck to Coisy, he was fun to watch in SX.



Even if Coisy did fake the injury I don't think that is something that should have been revealed by his employer, not in their initial statement. All they had to do was say that they parted ways. If Coisy came back with a story that wasn't the truth, then I wouldn't have a problem with them revealing that information. It just seems like they were trying to paint him in a bad light before he could get to them. That's just MHO.


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6/17/2009 3:23pm
500guy wrote:
Anyone who play's Golf knows you can't play with a shoulder injury, sounds like they had a faker on their hands.
maybe he was just driving the golf cart and putting?
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6/17/2009 5:38pm
Well it sounds from the Coisy letter that he was indeed golfing but that he also feels that it is not a breach of his contract... interesting.
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6/17/2009 6:12pm
Crush wrote:
Haha... Good work Shenzi! I didn't even read it till I got home, just realised how bad it is haha...
i prefered your'e version ...it was fuggin hilarious..........:-)
6/18/2009 12:59am
Here is a letter from Benjamin Coisy :


Murrieta, Cali. (June 17, 2009)

"Before heading back to France, I would like to publicly apologize to Mike Genova and the entire MotoConcepts Racing team. I have thought long and deeply about what happened at Glen Helen when I crashed pretty hard and dislocated the acromioclavicular joint of my shoulder. I am really sorry for creating the situation which I know I should have handled better. Yes motocross is dangerous, yes you can get hurt doing it.

During my physical therapy I admit that I was « participating in other sporting events on multiple dates » being at a golf course with my wife. I thought it would be a good time for me to relax a little bit with Marlene while recovering from my injury. I shouldn’t have done it after long hours at the gym getting myself back into shape. Of course being « released » from my team for such inconsequential reason is totally unfair and I’ll have an attorney defend my best legal interests in this case.
I’ve always been a hard worker and I did everything I could during the Supercross season to give the MotoConcepts Racing team the best results I could. I always fulfilled the contractal duties of the contract of all the teams I worked for and I’ve never underestimated the opportunites that people gave to me. I’m pretty shocked that people may think otherwise.
Thank you for the support. I’ll be back."

Benjamin Coisy #979.
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6/18/2009 1:26am
everybody knows everything nobody knows nothing...typical motoboard
6/18/2009 1:37am
BobbyM wrote:
everybody knows everything nobody knows nothing...typical motoboard
So, what are you doing here ?

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