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Has anyone heard of this before?
I haven’t officially changed residency yet, but will be doing so in January and was going to trade my car in shortly after.
Beyond notifying them you moved out of state on the vehicle registration renewal form, does any of the crap on the website actually have to done or can you just notify DMV and wash your hands of it?
Has anyone heard of this before?
I haven’t officially changed residency yet, but will be doing so in January and was going to trade my car in shortly after.
Beyond notifying them you moved out of state on the vehicle registration renewal form, does any of the crap on the website actually have to done or can you just notify DMV and wash your hands of it?
But I mean if I go to CA DMV’s website to report change of address once I have a Utah license, and also denote on the registration form that I’m no longer the owner of my vehicle once I trade it in... what can they possibly legally do? Because the way I see it, CA laws don’t pertain to me if I’m not a resident and I’m not in the state 🤷♂️
This sounds like some crazy shit that clearly is a blatant violation of Saenz v. Roe, 526 U.S. 489.
But I’m just wondering if anyone has had to deal with similar issues when leaving CA and declaring residency in another state.
I don’t have any property or businesses that will be left in the state, so there’s no way they can argue it’s “temporary “.
Sorry to try and bring legal jumbo onto a moto board. Just curious what others have done in the past?
Thank you.
As far as the F.T.B. you don't need to do anything. Just pay whatever taxes you owe for income earned while in the state at tax time. If there isn't any money being earned from a CA employer there isn't anything they can go after.
And no, I wouldn’t be registering my vehicle here. Just doing a trade in. So just mail it all in to the DMV with my registration renewal forms, mark on the form the vehicle is sold and send supporting documents with it?
Thanks, everyone. I was getting worried for a bit 👍
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Here is a link to the printable pdf. You can also do it online.
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/uploads/2020/06/reg138.pdf
The DMV was another story, however. It was an absolute bone-crushing nightmare to get those people to understand I did not want to re-register my vehicle in California. They do not answer their phone, there is no place on the registration card to indicate you have sold the vehicle, and they will penalize you for late registration fees. This was after I mailed them proof of registration in Arizona.
My suggestion for your cars would be to light them on fire in your driveway, dump wheelbarrows full of cash on them while aflame, and then report them as total losses and buy new ones in the state you are moving to. It will be cheaper and easier than dealing with the DMV directly. I'm only half-joking.
My registration expires after February and I won’t be a CA resident after January.
I guess my main concern was taxes and whatnot. As far as dmv is concerned, I’m doing change of address to their standards and washing my hands of it after I mail in release of liability or registration in a different state. If the dmv can’t figure it out, that’s on them.
Thanks again for the help 👍
But based on what Falcon said, I may just register it in Utah when I go get my Utah license to make the paperwork easier. As stated, there nothing on the registration renewal about no longer having the vehicle.
F this governor.
F this state.
Taxing someone for simply moving and changing residency: fat lawsuit as is violates constitutional freedoms of movement under Article IV.
But thankfully, it looks like I’m free and clear after the DMV shit. I really didn’t want to get a lawyer involved to simply move.
But yeah, CA can keep their “utopia”. Personally, I’m looking forward to actually being able to be a homeowner 😃
Honestly, I hope it does pass in the next few weeks before I switch residency. I could use the money for a down payment on a home 😂
Pit Row
lol.
As far as the exit tax, they'd have to take me to court for that if I had already moved.
It is worth noting, though, that the proposed “exit tax” would have applied to those individuals or entities with a net worth in excess of $30M, at a rate of 0.4% of value (minus liabilities). Sounds like it’s more geared towards businesses moving their ‘headquarters’ out of state while retaining their property in California, effectively taking advantage of any benefits that they may get by being physically located there but not “contributing” because of accounting tactics that shift more of their overall expenses to their California properties/operations. Sort of like the accounting done in the entertainment business that ended up with Return of the Jedi showing as never actually making a profit despite costing less than $35M to make, and grossing $475M in receipts.....
Not exactly too much of a worry that most of us would have to pay, but regardless it’s just a terrible idea in the first place.
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